Thread: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul ARGUDO
Date:
Hi all,

First,

During Solutions Linux 2005 exhibit Feb 1,2,3 Paris, we'll have this year the
pleasure to hear Bruce, Jan, Gilles (ora2pg) and St�phane (french specialist of
RDBMS for Linagora) during the database conference:

http://www.solutionslinux.fr/en/conferences_detail.php?id_conference=26
(seems to be not yet translated, should be done in a few)

SL 2005 home (french) : http://www.solutionslinux.fr/fr/index.php
SL 2005 home (english) : http://www.solutionslinux.fr/en/index.php

I think you can add it to next PostgreSQL events in PGWN (thanks Robert for your
great work, we translate pgwn each week on our site!).

Second,

We'll have a booth this year at the exhibit, for PostgreSQLFr.org internet site
and french non-lucrative association (french 1901 law for non-lucrative
associations). It should be as big as a table and two school chairs :)

I remember some told me here it could be possible, we would like to have some goodies
for the booth:

1 or 2 posters as a minimum,
anything else? Like TShirts for example?... Books?

We could buy all of it to PostgreSQL project (whats the commercial entity? PG
INC?..). Since our association is not yet setted up (should be in the next few
months), we'll buy it on personal fundings. Or can it be possible you send a
little 'stock' and we will return everything not sold and buy only sold stuff?

Lets'say we'll add 1 or 2 euros for our the association funding. The objective
is clearly not to make money but just having a little money to start hiring the
association's server. (PostgreSQLFr.org is hosted on a friend's server since feb
2004...). Every booth there has its own tshirt and stuff. We would be so proud
in wearing PostgreSQL Tshirts :)

I'll try to ask O'Reilly to let PostgreSQL books at our booth... Is this a good
idea? There are good books too in Eyrolles (fr editor of computer's books).

I hope Bruce and Jan will take few hours to meet french PostgreSQL users in our
booth. I think they could sign some goodies?

Well, I listen to any help. Its the first time I organize such a thing in my
life, I have no idea of how it can be done .

Any help much appreciated, then!

Hope to read you soon,

Best regards,



--
Jean-Paul ARGUDO

 Site perso : http://www.argudo.org
 PostgreSQL : http://www.postgresql(fr).org
 l'APRIL    : http://www.april.org

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Robert Bernier
Date:
On December 12, 2004 07:18 am, Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote:

> I'll try to ask O'Reilly to let PostgreSQL books at our booth... Is this a good idea? There are good books too in
Eyrolles(fr editor of computer's  books). 

Yes, it's a good idea to ask O'Reilly. They sponsored EuroBSD held in Germany.

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Jean-Paul,

> We'll have a booth this year at the exhibit, for PostgreSQLFr.org internet
> site and french non-lucrative association (french 1901 law for
> non-lucrative associations). It should be as big as a table and two school
> chairs :)

Wow, is this done?   It must be *much* easier in Europe.

> 1 or 2 posters as a minimum,

I can't ship you a banner; we only have one and it would cost almost as much
to ship as to reproduce.  However, we have a banner *design*, formatted for
the standard sizes available at Kinko's.    We produced a 3' x 6' banner (i
think) for $150 here; I'd imagine the cost would be similar in Europe.

> anything else? Like TShirts for example?... Books?

I can send you t-shirts for the volunteers (how many?) and a couple copies of
Kerry Douglas' book, in English.   Please give me a headcount ASAP as I leave
town in one week and then won't be able to ship anything until January.

The other really cool thing to do would be to create bootable PostgreSQL CDs
in French and hand them out.   Talk to Robert Bernier about how he created
the English ones featuring 7.4.   And keep in mind that we handed out 700 of
them at Linux World Expo, so you'll want to have quite a few.

You should also create a flyer (with the help of this list) on 8.0 or on
PostgreSQL in general and print several hundred.

> Lets'say we'll add 1 or 2 euros for our the association funding. The
> objective is clearly not to make money but just having a little money to
> start hiring the association's server. (PostgreSQLFr.org is hosted on a
> friend's server since feb 2004...). Every booth there has its own tshirt
> and stuff. We would be so proud in wearing PostgreSQL Tshirts :)

See above.  I have about 16 t-shirts left and have been saving them for
something like this.

> I'll try to ask O'Reilly to let PostgreSQL books at our booth... Is this a
> good idea? There are good books too in Eyrolles (fr editor of computer's
> books).

I don't think O'Reilly has anything remotely current out on PostgreSQL.
Perhaps Pearsons (AW, SAMS), instead?   They have a few titles which are more
current, and many of them translated.    I can ask Pearsons in the US who to
contact there.

How big is this convention?

> Well, I listen to any help. Its the first time I organize such a thing in
> my life, I have no idea of how it can be done .

I'm happy to help.   I've done about 8 booths at this point.    The most
important thing is to make a list NOW of what you'll need/want, how long
they'll take, how much they'll cost, and who's responsible.    I'd even
suggest creating this list as an OOo doc and putting it up on the "press"
project on pgFoundry, where the 8.0 releases are, so everyone can share it.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Robert Bernier
Date:
On December 12, 2004 03:32 pm, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Jean-Paul,
>
> The other really cool thing to do would be to create bootable PostgreSQL
> CDs in French and hand them out.   Talk to Robert Bernier about how he
> created the English ones featuring 7.4.   And keep in mind that we handed
> out 700 of them at Linux World Expo, so you'll want to have quite a few.
>

Donnez moi vos documents. Je peux faire le CD en francais, si tu veux.


Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Sunday 12 December 2004 15:32, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Jean-Paul,
> > 1 or 2 posters as a minimum,
>
> I can't ship you a banner; we only have one and it would cost almost as
> much to ship as to reproduce.  However, we have a banner *design*,
> formatted for the standard sizes available at Kinko's.    We produced a 3'
> x 6' banner (i think) for $150 here; I'd imagine the cost would be similar
> in Europe.
>

Does Peter have any banners he could send/deliver?

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul ARGUDO
Date:
> > french non-lucrative association (french 1901 law for
> > non-lucrative associations)
>
> Wow, is this done?   It must be *much* easier in Europe.

We writed the legal stuff, we're about to give it to the fr administration for
validation process. Yes, its easy to do, but gives much work to us.

> > 1 or 2 posters as a minimum,
>
> I can't ship you a banner; we only have one and it would cost almost as much
> to ship as to reproduce.  However, we have a banner *design*, formatted for
> the standard sizes available at Kinko's.    We produced a 3' x 6' banner (i
> think) for $150 here; I'd imagine the cost would be similar in Europe.

Well, can you send me any url or the banner design?... I would show it to my
local press printer to have an idea of the cost.

More over, it would be great if we have our own banner for such exhibitions in
europe. It would avoid yours to cross the ocean multiple times :)

> > anything else? Like TShirts for example?... Books?
>
> I can send you t-shirts for the volunteers (how many?) and a couple copies of
> Kerry Douglas' book, in English.   Please give me a headcount ASAP as I leave
> town in one week and then won't be able to ship anything until January.

Lets say it would be great if we have something like 6 tshirts for the
volunteers.

> The other really cool thing to do would be to create bootable PostgreSQL CDs
> in French and hand them out.   Talk to Robert Bernier about how he created
> the English ones featuring 7.4.   And keep in mind that we handed out 700 of
> them at Linux World Expo, so you'll want to have quite a few.

Oh yeah :)...

Lets burn some toasts then! :) we had that idea too, to have a "marketing"
oriented CD. Bootable, with PostgreSQL and so on. We would put all the docs,
examples, links... sources... everything we can grab.

> You should also create a flyer (with the help of this list) on 8.0 or on
> PostgreSQL in general and print several hundred.

Yes. We have to do that, lets say a recto-verso A5 page (~half US letter) to
present who we are, what we do.

> How big is this convention?

for the last 5 years, there have been about 12.000 visitors each year. Its the
biggest afaik in France.

> I'm happy to help.   I've done about 8 booths at this point.    The most
> important thing is to make a list NOW of what you'll need/want, how long
> they'll take, how much they'll cost, and who's responsible.    I'd even
> suggest creating this list as an OOo doc and putting it up on the "press"
> project on pgFoundry, where the 8.0 releases are, so everyone can share it.

Ok. I'll try to do such then.

Thanks for your valuable help! Thanks a lot.

Ah, maybe Bruce&Jan could bring up a little stuff too? Since they will be here
talking about RDBMS session?

Just an idea.

Cheers,

--
Jean-Paul ARGUDO

 Site perso : http://www.argudo.org
 PostgreSQL : http://www.postgresql(fr).org
 l'APRIL    : http://www.april.org

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Jean-Paul,
>
> > We'll have a booth this year at the exhibit, for PostgreSQLFr.org internet
> > site and french non-lucrative association (french 1901 law for
> > non-lucrative associations). It should be as big as a table and two school
> > chairs :)
>
> Wow, is this done?   It must be *much* easier in Europe.
>
> > 1 or 2 posters as a minimum,
>
> I can't ship you a banner; we only have one and it would cost almost as much
> to ship as to reproduce.  However, we have a banner *design*, formatted for
> the standard sizes available at Kinko's.    We produced a 3' x 6' banner (i
> think) for $150 here; I'd imagine the cost would be similar in Europe.

If I can get the banner I can bring it with me.

>
> > anything else? Like TShirts for example?... Books?
>
> I can send you t-shirts for the volunteers (how many?) and a couple copies of
> Kerry Douglas' book, in English.   Please give me a headcount ASAP as I leave
> town in one week and then won't be able to ship anything until January.

Again, I can bring them if that helps or Jan can too.

--
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  pgman@candle.pha.pa.us               |  (610) 359-1001
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> Jean-Paul,
>>
>>> We'll have a booth this year at the exhibit, for PostgreSQLFr.org internet
>>> site and french non-lucrative association (french 1901 law for
>>> non-lucrative associations). It should be as big as a table and two school
>>> chairs :)
>>
>> Wow, is this done?   It must be *much* easier in Europe.
>>
>>> 1 or 2 posters as a minimum,
>>
>> I can't ship you a banner; we only have one and it would cost almost as much
>> to ship as to reproduce.  However, we have a banner *design*, formatted for
>> the standard sizes available at Kinko's.    We produced a 3' x 6' banner (i
>> think) for $150 here; I'd imagine the cost would be similar in Europe.
>
> If I can get the banner I can bring it with me.
>
>>
>>> anything else? Like TShirts for example?... Books?
>>
>> I can send you t-shirts for the volunteers (how many?) and a couple copies of
>> Kerry Douglas' book, in English.   Please give me a headcount ASAP as I leave
>> town in one week and then won't be able to ship anything until January.
>
> Again, I can bring them if that helps or Jan can too.

If it would help, I could send out a dozen or so t-shirts to Jan to take
with him ...

----
Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>
> > Josh Berkus wrote:
> >> Jean-Paul,
> >>
> >>> We'll have a booth this year at the exhibit, for PostgreSQLFr.org internet
> >>> site and french non-lucrative association (french 1901 law for
> >>> non-lucrative associations). It should be as big as a table and two school
> >>> chairs :)
> >>
> >> Wow, is this done?   It must be *much* easier in Europe.
> >>
> >>> 1 or 2 posters as a minimum,
> >>
> >> I can't ship you a banner; we only have one and it would cost almost as much
> >> to ship as to reproduce.  However, we have a banner *design*, formatted for
> >> the standard sizes available at Kinko's.    We produced a 3' x 6' banner (i
> >> think) for $150 here; I'd imagine the cost would be similar in Europe.
> >
> > If I can get the banner I can bring it with me.
> >
> >>
> >>> anything else? Like TShirts for example?... Books?
> >>
> >> I can send you t-shirts for the volunteers (how many?) and a couple copies of
> >> Kerry Douglas' book, in English.   Please give me a headcount ASAP as I leave
> >> town in one week and then won't be able to ship anything until January.
> >
> > Again, I can bring them if that helps or Jan can too.
>
> If it would help, I could send out a dozen or so t-shirts to Jan to take
> with him ...

Great.

--
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Marc,

> If it would help, I could send out a dozen or so t-shirts to Jan to take
> with him ...

Where do you have t-shirts from?

Anyway, I'm sure I have at least a dozen of the SourceWear shirts left.  They
were donated for this purpose, so I'll send some out.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Robert Treat wrote:
> Does Peter have any banners he could send/deliver?

They're all in German, I think.  But I can send the designs if you want.
You can also have the source file for the flyer.

--
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Marc,
>
>> If it would help, I could send out a dozen or so t-shirts to Jan to take
>> with him ...
>
> Where do you have t-shirts from?

overstock of the black ones with the blue elephant on the front ... they
are only branded with the logo itself, no text ...

----
Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
elein
Date:
Josh--Remember I have a bunch of T-shirts as well.

Also, the english handouts I made are available:

General PostgreSQL Flyer:
  Open source hack away. Open Office or Doc format available on request.
  http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/pgflyer.pdf

PostgreSQL and the Open Source Maturity Model:
  Copyrighted. Free to copy and distribute by anyone as long as
  copyright notice and varlena logo stay on it.
  http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/pgosmm1.pdf

--elein

On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 12:32:23PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Jean-Paul,
>
> > We'll have a booth this year at the exhibit, for PostgreSQLFr.org internet
> > site and french non-lucrative association (french 1901 law for
> > non-lucrative associations). It should be as big as a table and two school
> > chairs :)
>
> Wow, is this done?   It must be *much* easier in Europe.
>
> > 1 or 2 posters as a minimum,
>
> I can't ship you a banner; we only have one and it would cost almost as much
> to ship as to reproduce.  However, we have a banner *design*, formatted for
> the standard sizes available at Kinko's.    We produced a 3' x 6' banner (i
> think) for $150 here; I'd imagine the cost would be similar in Europe.
>
> > anything else? Like TShirts for example?... Books?
>
> I can send you t-shirts for the volunteers (how many?) and a couple copies of
> Kerry Douglas' book, in English.   Please give me a headcount ASAP as I leave
> town in one week and then won't be able to ship anything until January.
>
> The other really cool thing to do would be to create bootable PostgreSQL CDs
> in French and hand them out.   Talk to Robert Bernier about how he created
> the English ones featuring 7.4.   And keep in mind that we handed out 700 of
> them at Linux World Expo, so you'll want to have quite a few.
>
> You should also create a flyer (with the help of this list) on 8.0 or on
> PostgreSQL in general and print several hundred.
>
> > Lets'say we'll add 1 or 2 euros for our the association funding. The
> > objective is clearly not to make money but just having a little money to
> > start hiring the association's server. (PostgreSQLFr.org is hosted on a
> > friend's server since feb 2004...). Every booth there has its own tshirt
> > and stuff. We would be so proud in wearing PostgreSQL Tshirts :)
>
> See above.  I have about 16 t-shirts left and have been saving them for
> something like this.
>
> > I'll try to ask O'Reilly to let PostgreSQL books at our booth... Is this a
> > good idea? There are good books too in Eyrolles (fr editor of computer's
> > books).
>
> I don't think O'Reilly has anything remotely current out on PostgreSQL.
> Perhaps Pearsons (AW, SAMS), instead?   They have a few titles which are more
> current, and many of them translated.    I can ask Pearsons in the US who to
> contact there.
>
> How big is this convention?
>
> > Well, I listen to any help. Its the first time I organize such a thing in
> > my life, I have no idea of how it can be done .
>
> I'm happy to help.   I've done about 8 booths at this point.    The most
> important thing is to make a list NOW of what you'll need/want, how long
> they'll take, how much they'll cost, and who's responsible.    I'd even
> suggest creating this list as an OOo doc and putting it up on the "press"
> project on pgFoundry, where the 8.0 releases are, so everyone can share it.
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul Argudo
Date:
Le Mardi 14 Décembre 2004 21:05, elein a écrit :
> Josh--Remember I have a bunch of T-shirts as well.

For the TShirt, we need a minimum of 6. But I must admit 10 would be perfect!

On the other hand, I asked for selling TShirts too, and afaik, I had no clear
answer on that.

Have I to buy personaly, lets say, 50 Tshirts? Or can you send me 50 TShirts
and I will return unsold one plus the money of the sold ones to the sender???

> Also, the english handouts I made are available:
> General PostgreSQL Flyer:
>   Open source hack away. Open Office or Doc format available on request.
>   http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/pgflyer.pdf
>
> PostgreSQL and the Open Source Maturity Model:
>   Copyrighted. Free to copy and distribute by anyone as long as
>   copyright notice and varlena logo stay on it.
>   http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/pgosmm1.pdf

Elein, those Flyers look awesome to us. *But* since we represent
PostgreSQLFr.org, one of our main goal is to translate everything from
PostgreSQL. So we would like to have it in French.

We would let your logos and copyright, of course, and adding just a logo
and/or link to http://www.postgresqlfr.org, depending of what you authorize
us to do or not.

So, for the translation, are you ok? If yes, how do you want to proceed? You
send the files, we translate and do the PDF? Or you dont want to give the
sources, and we send you only translations??? How do you want to proceed?

Thanks a lot!! :)

--
Jean-Paul Argudo

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Christophe Arnu
Date:
Jean-Paul Argudo m'expliquait  (le 15.12.2004 12:31):

>Le Mardi 14 Décembre 2004 21:05, elein a écrit :
>
>
>>Josh--Remember I have a bunch of T-shirts as well.
>>
>>
>
>For the TShirt, we need a minimum of 6. But I must admit 10 would be perfect!
>
>
>
Yep.

>Elein, those Flyers look awesome to us. *But* since we represent
>PostgreSQLFr.org, one of our main goal is to translate everything from
>PostgreSQL. So we would like to have it in French.
>
>
' Can help with translation if needed... You know you can count on me
(almost for this). Sorry, for not being present this time on freenode's
#postgresqlfr (lotta work)

See you

--
Jean-Christophe


Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> Elein, those Flyers look awesome to us. *But* since we represent
> PostgreSQLFr.org, one of our main goal is to translate everything
> from PostgreSQL. So we would like to have it in French.

It appears to me that the general flyer was adopted from the flyer we
made in Germany (which is perfectly fine, of course).  We printed it
one side English and one side German.  I can send you the source file,
you can replace the German text by the French, and send if off to the
printer.

In fact, if we had both English/French and English/German available in a
common design, we could deal them out at FOSDEM as well.

--
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Oleg Bartunov
Date:
Peter,

could you sent me sources too. I'll try to write in Russian

     Oleg
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

> Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
>> Elein, those Flyers look awesome to us. *But* since we represent
>> PostgreSQLFr.org, one of our main goal is to translate everything
>> from PostgreSQL. So we would like to have it in French.
>
> It appears to me that the general flyer was adopted from the flyer we
> made in Germany (which is perfectly fine, of course).  We printed it
> one side English and one side German.  I can send you the source file,
> you can replace the German text by the French, and send if off to the
> printer.
>
> In fact, if we had both English/French and English/German available in a
> common design, we could deal them out at FOSDEM as well.
>
>

     Regards,
         Oleg
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Elein, Jean-Paul

> Have I to buy personaly, lets say, 50 Tshirts? Or can you send me 50
> TShirts and I will return unsold one plus the money of the sold ones to the
> sender???

Elein, how many t-shirts do you have?    Marc?

I have no problem with Postgresql.fr selling them ... they were a donation,
after all ... but I'm not sure how many we have.   I want enough to cover
OSCON and LWE here.

If you did sell them, we'd just want to be compensated for shipping.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
elein
Date:
Josh--I've got 25 t-shirts I can lug across the bridge to you.
Or you can cross the bridge to get them :)

Jean-Paul--

I will send you the source for both flyers off the list.

Anyone can do anything to general one.  It was based, as
Peter said, on the one from Germany.

I have no problem with my Pg & the Open Source Model flyer being
translated.  I would like a translated source copy, though :)


--elein

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 12:31:10PM +0100, Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> Le Mardi 14 Décembre 2004 21:05, elein a écrit :
> > Josh--Remember I have a bunch of T-shirts as well.
>
> For the TShirt, we need a minimum of 6. But I must admit 10 would be perfect!
>
> On the other hand, I asked for selling TShirts too, and afaik, I had no clear
> answer on that.
>
> Have I to buy personaly, lets say, 50 Tshirts? Or can you send me 50 TShirts
> and I will return unsold one plus the money of the sold ones to the sender???
>
> > Also, the english handouts I made are available:
> > General PostgreSQL Flyer:
> >   Open source hack away. Open Office or Doc format available on request.
> >   http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/pgflyer.pdf
> >
> > PostgreSQL and the Open Source Maturity Model:
> >   Copyrighted. Free to copy and distribute by anyone as long as
> >   copyright notice and varlena logo stay on it.
> >   http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/pgosmm1.pdf
>
> Elein, those Flyers look awesome to us. *But* since we represent
> PostgreSQLFr.org, one of our main goal is to translate everything from
> PostgreSQL. So we would like to have it in French.
>
> We would let your logos and copyright, of course, and adding just a logo
> and/or link to http://www.postgresqlfr.org, depending of what you authorize
> us to do or not.
>
> So, for the translation, are you ok? If yes, how do you want to proceed? You
> send the files, we translate and do the PDF? Or you dont want to give the
> sources, and we send you only translations??? How do you want to proceed?
>
> Thanks a lot!! :)
>
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>
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Elein,

> Josh--I've got 25 t-shirts I can lug across the bridge to you.
> Or you can cross the bridge to get them :)

25?  Wow, didn't realize there were so many left.

Marc, how many do you have?   Bruce & Robert will also want t-shirts for LWE
Boston I expect, if they have other people there.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Elein,
>
>> Josh--I've got 25 t-shirts I can lug across the bridge to you.
>> Or you can cross the bridge to get them :)
>
> 25?  Wow, didn't realize there were so many left.
>
> Marc, how many do you have?   Bruce & Robert will also want t-shirts for LWE
> Boston I expect, if they have other people there.

I could probably send down a half dozen or so to each ...

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Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul ARGUDO
Date:
> > Have I to buy personaly, lets say, 50 Tshirts? Or can you send me 50
> > TShirts and I will return unsold one plus the money of the sold ones to the
> > sender???
>
> I have no problem with Postgresql.fr selling them ... they were a donation,
> after all ... but I'm not sure how many we have.   I want enough to cover
> OSCON and LWE here.
> If you did sell them, we'd just want to be compensated for shipping.

Ok, seems there's a kind of misunderstanding, I sincerely apologize my english
is not as fluent as it should be.

What I want is just some tee-shirts, lets say ~10 for the staff of the booth.
I'd like everyone participating in the booth life had his own tee-shirt.

If the PG projects offers it, it would be great, but I dont want to force you to
do so, so I can buy those 10 TShirts first, and give it back to my folks there.
Since they are all volunteers, I would be glad of give 'em back a little gift.

On the other hand, Id like having a stock of ~50 TShirts to sell them, as every
booth at Solutions Linux expo does each year. Each association has goodies to
sell to make "a little" money to help them live during the year. That's what I
want to do too.

BUT in *NO WAY* I want PG project TO GIVE those 50 tshirts. What I want is to
give you back the money you would have if those tshirts were sold from the
internet site. So I just asked you how we could proceed for the payment of
those tshirts. As an evidence the best for us (pgfr.org) is have the stock here
at linux expo round 31/01/2005. You could send this bunch of tshirts paying the
shipping. As a return, when the expo is over, we send you back the money of the
sold tshirt (just give me *your* price) plus the money back of the shippement
you will pay.

If you have any problem regarding trust, commercial issues or whatever, keep me
in touch with it. I can understand you may not want send 50 Thirts without an
initial payment. Really, dont hesitate, I will understand. So, then, I'll have
to find people to help me buy it.

Hope this time I am understood?

Well, I did it long and boring with the hope everyone can understand what I
want.

Finaly:

~10 tshirts for the staff, as a gift or not from pg (if not, we would buy it, no
problem!)

~50 tshirts for the visitors to be sold. Hope we will sell everything. Our goal
is to sell them : your price + 1 or 2 euros for us = expo retail price.

Finaly, we will send you the money of the sold tshirt plus surplus unsold
tshirts back plus the shippment you will pay. (we hope the 1/2 surplus euros
will cover this shippement :-/ )

Cya, Thanks a lot to everyone on this list answering my crap english :)

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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Elein, Marc, Jean-Paul,

> Josh--I've got 25 t-shirts I can lug across the bridge to you.
> Or you can cross the bridge to get them :)

How does this sound:  Elein can ship 20 shirts to Jean-Paul; 7-10 for the
booth volunteers, the rest to sell.    Marc can send his shirts to
Bruce/Brian, assuming that they get a booth together.   Elein, we'll
compensate you for shipping somehow, Foundation money I expect.

That work for everyone?

--
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Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
elein
Date:
OK. Can do. I'd need a ship to address, though.

--elein

On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 07:59:56PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Elein, Marc, Jean-Paul,
>
> > Josh--I've got 25 t-shirts I can lug across the bridge to you.
> > Or you can cross the bridge to get them :)
>
> How does this sound:  Elein can ship 20 shirts to Jean-Paul; 7-10 for the
> booth volunteers, the rest to sell.    Marc can send his shirts to
> Bruce/Brian, assuming that they get a booth together.   Elein, we'll
> compensate you for shipping somehow, Foundation money I expect.
>
> That work for everyone?
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul ARGUDO
Date:
Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote:
> Finaly:
>
> ~10 tshirts for the staff, as a gift or not from pg (if not, we would buy it, no
> problem!)
>
> ~50 tshirts for the visitors to be sold. Hope we will sell everything. Our goal
> is to sell them : your price + 1 or 2 euros for us = expo retail price.
>
> Finaly, we will send you the money of the sold tshirt plus surplus unsold
> tshirts back plus the shippment you will pay. (we hope the 1/2 surplus euros
> will cover this shippement :-/ )

No one did answer to me on the tshirt topic, Im really disapointed,
since the exhibit will start by 1 feb. *Please* let me know how people
here want to proceed??

Please let me know what PG advocacy group you represent have decided to do?!

You can ship the tshirts here:

Dimitri FONTAINE
6, RUE CRESPIN DU GAST
75011 PARIS
FRANCE

Dimitri is a friend of mine, he will lodge me during the week of the
exhibit. I prefer tshirts be sent there, since I live far from Paris and
will take the train to go there.

Please tell me how those tshirts can be sold or not...

Id like having one or two wallposters too, something not too big too,
like a OpenBSD poster would be great for example.

I'll talk later about the PG bootable cdrom in the thread devoted to it.

Thanks for any help.

--
Jean-Paul Argudo

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
And you can ship things to me too if that is easier.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote:
> Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote:
> > Finaly:
> >
> > ~10 tshirts for the staff, as a gift or not from pg (if not, we would buy it, no
> > problem!)
> >
> > ~50 tshirts for the visitors to be sold. Hope we will sell everything. Our goal
> > is to sell them : your price + 1 or 2 euros for us = expo retail price.
> >
> > Finaly, we will send you the money of the sold tshirt plus surplus unsold
> > tshirts back plus the shippment you will pay. (we hope the 1/2 surplus euros
> > will cover this shippement :-/ )
>
> No one did answer to me on the tshirt topic, Im really disapointed,
> since the exhibit will start by 1 feb. *Please* let me know how people
> here want to proceed??
>
> Please let me know what PG advocacy group you represent have decided to do?!
>
> You can ship the tshirts here:
>
> Dimitri FONTAINE
> 6, RUE CRESPIN DU GAST
> 75011 PARIS
> FRANCE
>
> Dimitri is a friend of mine, he will lodge me during the week of the
> exhibit. I prefer tshirts be sent there, since I live far from Paris and
> will take the train to go there.
>
> Please tell me how those tshirts can be sold or not...
>
> Id like having one or two wallposters too, something not too big too,
> like a OpenBSD poster would be great for example.
>
> I'll talk later about the PG bootable cdrom in the thread devoted to it.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> --
> Jean-Paul Argudo
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
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>

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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Jean-Paul,

> No one did answer to me on the tshirt topic, Im really disapointed,
> since the exhibit will start by 1 feb. *Please* let me know how people
> here want to proceed??

Apparently you aren't getting some people's e-mail.    You received several
responses, the last of which asked you for an address.  You did not reply.
We are sending you 20 t-shirts from The PostgreSQL Foundation.

If someone else who knows they have contact with Jean-Paul gets this, please
contact him and let him know to fix his spam filters!

Elein, if you're reading this, please ship the T-shirts to Bruce.  This should
be more reliable and cheaper.

> Id like having one or two wallposters too, something not too big too,
> like a OpenBSD poster would be great for example.

We have the banner design for PostgreSQL.    As I said before, it makes more
sense for you to have one printed there and keep in in Europe than to ship
it.


--
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul ARGUDO
Date:
> Apparently you aren't getting some people's e-mail.    You received several
> responses, the last of which asked you for an address.

Well you mean the last mail from Elein:
«
OK. Can do. I'd need a ship to address, though.
--elein
»

I didnt catch it was a direct question I had to answer, my deep apologizes!

> We are sending you 20 t-shirts from The PostgreSQL Foundation.

Great. That will fit the requirements for dessing up people on the booth!

If I have to return those tshirts, please let me know where to ship them
to.

If you give those tshirts to us, we will use it on the french
non-lucrative association PostgreSQLFr.org (yes, it has the same name
than the web site) to dress people for the next exhibitions around here.
  Since my mother owns a pressing, she will participate in the project
to wash it and store it in transparent sealed clothes bags ;-)

> If someone else who knows they have contact with Jean-Paul gets this, please
> contact him and let him know to fix his spam filters!

Well, what should be fixed is my understanding of English, I apologize
again. My bogofilter works like a charm tough.

> Elein, if you're reading this, please ship the T-shirts to Bruce.  This should
> be more reliable and cheaper

Surely, but as I said, we can participate the money effort.

> We have the banner design for PostgreSQL.    As I said before, it makes more
> sense for you to have one printed there and keep in in Europe than to ship
> it.

Okay. Give me any URL you have for the banner design. I'll bring it to
my local printer office (?). Hope it is in a professional format for the
printer. I must add I haven't any software to handle such things (Quark
X press or those things, I only have free softwares like Gimp).

For the next messages, please use a "clearly direct without insinuation"
English (thanks babelfish for the translation). I promise I wont offense
  :-)

Thanks a lot!

--
Jean-Paul Argudo

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Also, didn't Marc also have shirts for the show?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote:
> > Apparently you aren't getting some people's e-mail.    You received several
> > responses, the last of which asked you for an address.
>
> Well you mean the last mail from Elein:
> ?
> OK. Can do. I'd need a ship to address, though.
> --elein
> ?
>
> I didnt catch it was a direct question I had to answer, my deep apologizes!
>
> > We are sending you 20 t-shirts from The PostgreSQL Foundation.
>
> Great. That will fit the requirements for dessing up people on the booth!
>
> If I have to return those tshirts, please let me know where to ship them
> to.
>
> If you give those tshirts to us, we will use it on the french
> non-lucrative association PostgreSQLFr.org (yes, it has the same name
> than the web site) to dress people for the next exhibitions around here.
>   Since my mother owns a pressing, she will participate in the project
> to wash it and store it in transparent sealed clothes bags ;-)
>
> > If someone else who knows they have contact with Jean-Paul gets this, please
> > contact him and let him know to fix his spam filters!
>
> Well, what should be fixed is my understanding of English, I apologize
> again. My bogofilter works like a charm tough.
>
> > Elein, if you're reading this, please ship the T-shirts to Bruce.  This should
> > be more reliable and cheaper
>
> Surely, but as I said, we can participate the money effort.
>
> > We have the banner design for PostgreSQL.    As I said before, it makes more
> > sense for you to have one printed there and keep in in Europe than to ship
> > it.
>
> Okay. Give me any URL you have for the banner design. I'll bring it to
> my local printer office (?). Hope it is in a professional format for the
> printer. I must add I haven't any software to handle such things (Quark
> X press or those things, I only have free softwares like Gimp).
>
> For the next messages, please use a "clearly direct without insinuation"
> English (thanks babelfish for the translation). I promise I wont offense
>   :-)
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --
> Jean-Paul Argudo
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
>

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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Bruce, Jean-Paul,

> Also, didn't Marc also have shirts for the show?

Yes, but we discussed that, given the numbers, it makes more sense for Marc to
give his shirts for LWE-Boston, and Elein to sent the Foundation shirts to
France (through you).

> If I have to return those tshirts, please let me know where to ship them
> to.

Nope, keep them.   It'd cost more to ship them than it would

> If you give those tshirts to us, we will use it on the french
> non-lucrative association PostgreSQLFr.org (yes, it has the same name
> than the web site) to dress people for the next exhibitions around here.
>   Since my mother owns a pressing, she will participate in the project
> to wash it and store it in transparent sealed clothes bags ;-)

That seems unnessesary to me.    Just give the t-shirts to the volunteers to
keep; I can't imagine that you'll have more than 20 volunteers in the next
year.  There will be t-shirts again in the future -- in fact, I'll be talking
to the original donor about some kind of deal that allows us to sell direct
at conventions.   I just can't do it before Solutions Linux.

> Okay. Give me any URL you have for the banner design. I'll bring it to
> my local printer office (?). Hope it is in a professional format for the
> printer. I must add I haven't any software to handle such things (Quark
> X press or those things, I only have free softwares like Gimp).

David, and Gavin Roy, you have this.    Can one of you e-mail it direct to
Jean-Paul?   Or better, give it to me to post on pgFoundry?

Jean-Paul, the banner is a PDF, sized for Fedex/Kinko's banner printing on one
of their standard sizes.    I believe that Kinko's has stores in France, yes?

--
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

LWE-Boston (Was Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris)

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, Josh Berkus wrote:

>> Also, didn't Marc also have shirts for the show?
>
> Yes, but we discussed that, given the numbers, it makes more sense for
> Marc to give his shirts for LWE-Boston, and Elein to sent the Foundation
> shirts to France (through you).

Jan, are you heading down from Toronto for there?  Basically, where should
I send, for when and how many are needed *minimum*?

----
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Email: scrappy@hub.org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Gaetano Mendola
Date:
Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote:
> Jean-Paul ARGUDO wrote:
>
>> Finaly:
>>
>> ~10 tshirts for the staff, as a gift or not from pg (if not, we would
>> buy it, no
>> problem!)
>>
>> ~50 tshirts for the visitors to be sold. Hope we will sell everything.
>> Our goal
>> is to sell them : your price + 1 or 2 euros for us = expo retail price.
>>
>> Finaly, we will send you the money of the sold tshirt plus surplus unsold
>> tshirts back plus the shippment you will pay. (we hope the 1/2 surplus
>> euros
>> will cover this shippement :-/ )
>
>
> No one did answer to me on the tshirt topic, Im really disapointed,
> since the exhibit will start by 1 feb. *Please* let me know how people
> here want to proceed??
>
> Please let me know what PG advocacy group you represent have decided to
> do?!
>
> You can ship the tshirts here:
>
> Dimitri FONTAINE
> 6, RUE CRESPIN DU GAST
> 75011 PARIS
> FRANCE

BTW, I work in Paris for Eutelsat and we use extensivelly Postgres,
do you need anything ?


Regards
Gaetano Mendola


Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul ARGUDO
Date:
> > Okay. Give me any URL you have for the banner design. I'll bring it to
> > my local printer office (?). Hope it is in a professional format for the
> > printer. I must add I haven't any software to handle such things (Quark
> > X press or those things, I only have free softwares like Gimp).
>
> David, and Gavin Roy, you have this.    Can one of you e-mail it direct to
> Jean-Paul?   Or better, give it to me to post on pgFoundry?

I still dont have it. Could you please send me the file as I can have it
printed in time? Thanks a lot.

> Jean-Paul, the banner is a PDF, sized for Fedex/Kinko's banner printing on
> one of their standard sizes.    I believe that Kinko's has stores in
> France, yes?

No, seems there's no Kinko store here. But there are many other companies able
to do it.

Thanks!

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Christophe Arnu
Date:
Robert Bernier m'expliquait  (le 12.12.2004 22:25):

>On December 12, 2004 03:32 pm, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
>
>>Jean-Paul,
>>
>>The other really cool thing to do would be to create bootable PostgreSQL
>>CDs in French and hand them out.   Talk to Robert Bernier about how he
>>created the English ones featuring 7.4.   And keep in mind that we handed
>>out 700 of them at Linux World Expo, so you'll want to have quite a few.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Donnez moi vos documents. Je peux faire le CD en francais, si tu veux.
>
>
I'm ok to send you documents, but, tell me what docs are mandatory, what
docs are optional. I will send them to you in the best delays.

Cheers

--
Jean-Christophe


Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul Argudo
Date:
> You can ship the tshirts here:
>
> Dimitri FONTAINE
> 6, RUE CRESPIN DU GAST
> 75011 PARIS
> FRANCE
>
> Dimitri is a friend of mine, he will lodge me during the week of the
> exhibit. I prefer tshirts be sent there, since I live far from Paris and
> will take the train to go there.

At this point, Dimitri received no tshirts. Do some of you can send it?
The exhibit is in 2 weeks now, Its becoming urgent.

Thanks in advance!

> Id like having one or two wallposters too, something not too big too,
> like a OpenBSD poster would be great for example.

I got contacts with a local print office, the will print some posters.
Cool :)

Thanks a lot for answering me on the tshirts topic.

Best regards,

--
Jean-Paul Argudo
www.PostgreSQLFr.org

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
elein@varlena.com (elein)
Date:
Josh--Are these the ones I was to send?  I was waiting
for an address and this is the first I'd seen one.

--elein

On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 07:18:21PM +0100, Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> >You can ship the tshirts here:
> >
> >Dimitri FONTAINE
> >6, RUE CRESPIN DU GAST
> >75011 PARIS
> >FRANCE
> >
> >Dimitri is a friend of mine, he will lodge me during the week of the
> >exhibit. I prefer tshirts be sent there, since I live far from Paris and
> >will take the train to go there.
>
> At this point, Dimitri received no tshirts. Do some of you can send it?
> The exhibit is in 2 weeks now, Its becoming urgent.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> >Id like having one or two wallposters too, something not too big too,
> >like a OpenBSD poster would be great for example.
>
> I got contacts with a local print office, the will print some posters.
> Cool :)
>
> Thanks a lot for answering me on the tshirts topic.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Jean-Paul Argudo
> www.PostgreSQLFr.org
>
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Elein,

> Josh--Are these the ones I was to send?  I was waiting
> for an address and this is the first I'd seen one.

I actually sent you an e-mail direct, 2 weeks ago.   Apparently it didn't go
through :-(

You should take all but 5 of the shirts and ship them to either Jan or Bruce
-- it's a little up in the air right now who's going to Solutions.   Jan,
Bruce?

Their schedule will determine the kind of shipping to use.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Elein,
>
> > Josh--Are these the ones I was to send?  I was waiting
> > for an address and this is the first I'd seen one.
>
> I actually sent you an e-mail direct, 2 weeks ago.   Apparently it didn't go
> through :-(
>
> You should take all but 5 of the shirts and ship them to either Jan or Bruce
> -- it's a little up in the air right now who's going to Solutions.   Jan,
> Bruce?

It is unclear if either of us is going.  The organizers have not
approved our travel expenses and with two weeks left, I am not sure what
is going to happen.

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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Elein,

> > You should take all but 5 of the shirts and ship them to either Jan or
> > Bruce -- it's a little up in the air right now who's going to Solutions.
> >  Jan, Bruce?
>
> It is unclear if either of us is going.  The organizers have not
> approved our travel expenses and with two weeks left, I am not sure what
> is going to happen.

Darn, you'd better ship the shirts to Dimitri, then, 1-week guarenteed (Fedex,
UPS's time guarentees mean nothing).  Try to keep it under $150.

Oh, and are you coming to the shindig tonight?

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul Argudo
Date:
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> It is unclear if either of us is going.  The organizers have not
> approved our travel expenses and with two weeks left, I am not sure what
> is going to happen.

I re-posted "the organizer(s)" just by now.. I'm asking him to be clear
on that precize point. I mean will Jan & Bruce will come or not.

I have to build quickly a fallback for both RDBMS talks (mainly PG
ones), and all the PostgreSQLFr.org booth stuffs (tshirts!!??).
Pervasive guys would be great IMHO.

I dont know if my daughter could be able to paint a blue elephant on a
white tshirt, she's only 5? What do you think? Well that would be funny
for her and me to do, but may not look like the actual PG Logo. :)

Cheers,

NB: yes, Im Zen :)

--
Jean-Paul Argudo
www.PostgreSQLFr.org

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Robert Bernier
Date:
On January 19, 2005 01:39 pm, Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> I have to build quickly a fallback for both RDBMS talks (mainly PG
> ones), and all the PostgreSQLFr.org booth stuffs (tshirts!!??).
> Pervasive guys would be great IMHO.
>
> I dont know if my daughter could be able to paint a blue elephant on a
> white tshirt, she's only 5? What do you think? Well that would be funny
> for her and me to do, but may not look like the actual PG Logo. :)


I'm almost finishing testing out the latest version of pg_live. At this point
in time I don't know if Afilias and SRA would be willing to press the CD's
and send some off to you in time for the Paris show.

Jean-Paul, contact me and I'll give you a URL of the latest beta iso that you
can download. I have as yet not created a french menu but that's only a few
minutes of work. The french postgres documentation is on the CD but I haven't
made an active link to them as yet.


--
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 PostgreSQL Business Intelligence Analyst,
  SRA AMERICA (Formerly of One WTC)
  Consulting, PostgreSQL Services & PowerGres on Windows
  One Penn Plaza, Suite 1910
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul Argudo
Date:
Robert Bernier wrote:
> I'm almost finishing testing out the latest version of pg_live. At this point
> in time I don't know if Afilias and SRA would be willing to press the CD's
> and send some off to you in time for the Paris show.

Well If CDs arrive on the 30/01 or 01/02, this would be great, otherwise
we'll have to do it by our own.

I really dont know the delays of delivery of cdrom pressing companies
here, Guillaume can you phone some of them to know that?... (he's in CC
by the equipe@postgresqlfr.org alias)

> Jean-Paul, contact me and I'll give you a URL of the latest beta iso that you
> can download.

mail us the URL at equipe@postgresqlfr.org, thanks in advance!

 > I have as yet not created a french menu but that's only a few
> minutes of work.

Please let us know by mail what we have to do to have it translated?

 > The french postgres documentation is on the CD but I haven't
> made an active link to them as yet

Same remark as above.

Thanks for this great work, Robert!

--
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www.PostgreSQLFr.org


Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
>  > I have as yet not created a french menu but that's only a few
> > minutes of work.
>
> Please let us know by mail what we have to do to have it translated?
>
>  > The french postgres documentation is on the CD but I haven't
> > made an active link to them as yet
>
> Same remark as above.

Robert knows French so I assume he will do it.

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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Guillaume LELARGE
Date:
Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> Robert Bernier wrote:
>
>> I'm almost finishing testing out the latest version of pg_live. At
>> this point in time I don't know if Afilias and SRA would be willing to
>> press the CD's and send some off to you in time for the Paris show.
>
> Well If CDs arrive on the 30/01 or 01/02, this would be great, otherwise
> we'll have to do it by our own.
>
> I really dont know the delays of delivery of cdrom pressing companies
> here, Guillaume can you phone some of them to know that?... (he's in CC
> by the equipe@postgresqlfr.org alias)
>
OK, I'll take care of this tomorrow.

>> Jean-Paul, contact me and I'll give you a URL of the latest beta iso
>> that you can download.
>
> mail us the URL at equipe@postgresqlfr.org, thanks in advance!
>
Yes, it would be great to be able to test it a little bit.

>  > I have as yet not created a french menu but that's only a few
>> minutes of work.
>
> Please let us know by mail what we have to do to have it translated?
>
> > The french postgres documentation is on the CD but I haven't
>
>> made an active link to them as yet
>
> Same remark as above.
>
I don't know if this is too late but can you put the latest release ?
It's always available at
   http://traduc.postgresqlfr.org/pgsql-fr/pgsql-fr-html.tar.bz2

> Thanks for this great work, Robert!
>

And congrats to every one for this new release :)

Thanks again.


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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Robert Bernier
Date:
On January 19, 2005 02:43 pm, Guillaume LELARGE wrote:
> Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> > mail us the URL at equipe@postgresqlfr.org, thanks in advance!

The URL is http://sraapowergres.com/~bernier/SRAA/pg_live.1.3.1.iso

Be advised that this machine doesn't have the greatest bandwidth.

> Yes, it would be great to be able to test it a little bit.

Very important that you take it through its paces

> >  > I have as yet not created a french menu

Attached is the english version of the menu used by fluxbox.

Despite being bilingual with most of my family living in Quebec, I suffer from the curse of being educated in an
anglophoneenvironment and can't trust my written French. My young son often lectures me on this defficiency. 

> >
> > Please let us know by mail what we have to do to have it translated?

The menu should be copied into french.

The home (index) page on the CD should be translated. There's not enough time to translate the rest of the
documentation.

Send me back those translated documents and I'll set it up properly.

> I don't know if this is too late but can you put the latest release ?  It's always available at
http://traduc.postgresqlfr.org/pgsql-fr/pgsql-fr-html.tar.bz2

I'll have a look at it.

Be advised that the iso still needs to be checked by Jan to verify that SLONY works okay.

Due to time constraints there's not much you can ask of me and still get the completed CD. Therefore restrict your
adviceto those aspects concerning language issues. 

By all mean send me your comments in French, that at least I can do in my sleep ;-)


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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Robert Bernier
Date:
Oh another thing I forgot to mention.

I have the CD configured with the postgres windows installer for microsoft machines. Please test this with your own
machines.

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
elein@varlena.com (elein)
Date:
OK. This morning pacific time, I mailed the tshirts to
Dimitri.  Please let me know when they arrive if you can.
They should arrive in about 3 days.

--elein
elein@varlena.com

On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 07:18:21PM +0100, Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> >You can ship the tshirts here:
> >
> >Dimitri FONTAINE
> >6, RUE CRESPIN DU GAST
> >75011 PARIS
> >FRANCE
> >
> >Dimitri is a friend of mine, he will lodge me during the week of the
> >exhibit. I prefer tshirts be sent there, since I live far from Paris and
> >will take the train to go there.
>
> At this point, Dimitri received no tshirts. Do some of you can send it?
> The exhibit is in 2 weeks now, Its becoming urgent.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> >Id like having one or two wallposters too, something not too big too,
> >like a OpenBSD poster would be great for example.
>
> I got contacts with a local print office, the will print some posters.
> Cool :)
>
> Thanks a lot for answering me on the tshirts topic.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Jean-Paul Argudo
> www.PostgreSQLFr.org
>
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Christophe Arnu
Date:
Jean-Paul Argudo m'expliquait  (le 17.01.2005 19:18):

>> Id like having one or two wallposters too, something not too big too,
>> like a OpenBSD poster would be great for example.
>
>
> I got contacts with a local print office, the will print some posters.
> Cool :)

    Well, I retrieved the SVG logo and did translate to french the
Banner [1] and made a wall poster [2].

    I wonder if :
       1) it is right to put the french URL
(http://www.postgresqlfr.org) on the wall poster and the banner. Is it
legitimated by the fact we are building up the french/francophone
PostgreSQL user group/organization (non lucrative). I don't want to hurt
PostgreSQL people, so give me your feelings... this is quite beta
or alpha banner and poster... feel free to tell me what is the best for
us to put as url!
       2) you (the PostgreSQL communauty) agree on the design and the
fact we did ourselves (as the francophone communauty) banners and posters...

Translation to english of the «subtitle» is "The most advanced Open
Source Database" :)

[1] http://www.tuxfarm.org/statics/pgfr.png
[2] http://www.tuxfarm.org/statics/poster2.png


--
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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Jean-Christophe,

>     I wonder if :
>        1) it is right to put the french URL
> (http://www.postgresqlfr.org) on the wall poster and the banner. Is it
> legitimated by the fact we are building up the french/francophone
> PostgreSQL user group/organization (non lucrative). I don't want to hurt
> PostgreSQL people, so give me your feelings... this is quite beta
> or alpha banner and poster... feel free to tell me what is the best for
> us to put as url!

Why not?   It's not like it's your personal company, or the poster will be
used in a non-French-speaking venue.  I say, go for it!

>        2) you (the PostgreSQL communauty) agree on the design and the
> fact we did ourselves (as the francophone communauty) banners and
> posters...

Issue:  the wall poster was NOT designed by the community.   It was designed
by SourceWear Inc., and is their copyright.   You will need to get permission
to use the design.

I suggest that you work something out with them, they're very flexible; maybe
a small link to SourceWear on the poster, or swap your design for theirs and
let people know that they can buy copies of the poster from SourceWear.  I
will e-mail Federico and you.

--
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jan Wieck
Date:
On 1/19/2005 1:39 PM, Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> It is unclear if either of us is going.  The organizers have not
>> approved our travel expenses and with two weeks left, I am not sure what
>> is going to happen.
>
> I re-posted "the organizer(s)" just by now.. I'm asking him to be clear
> on that precize point. I mean will Jan & Bruce will come or not.

Jean-Paul,

with only 2 weeks to go and still no decision made by the organizer(s) I
cancel my proposed presentation. I am sorry for any inconvenience this
may cause on your side.

>
> I have to build quickly a fallback for both RDBMS talks (mainly PG
> ones), and all the PostgreSQLFr.org booth stuffs (tshirts!!??).
> Pervasive guys would be great IMHO.

Hopefully there is enough time left for this. Good luck.


Regards,
Jan


>
> I dont know if my daughter could be able to paint a blue elephant on a
> white tshirt, she's only 5? What do you think? Well that would be funny
> for her and me to do, but may not look like the actual PG Logo. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> NB: yes, Im Zen :)
>


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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jean-Paul Argudo
Date:
> with only 2 weeks to go and still no decision made by the organizer(s) I
> cancel my proposed presentation. I am sorry for any inconvenience this
> may cause on your side.

What a pain... but I understand

As I told Bruce today (surely early for americans), the "organizers" are
OKAY in paying everything you need.

As told, they wait for you to send them the amount of the plane trip.
They would organize everything else, depending the days you want to stay
in Paris (hotel+restaurant).

So please, re-consider your decision, I repeat, everything gone fine finaly!

Be sure I'll ask the questions there to the organizers, for example, why
being such late in making their expenses approval!!

> Hopefully there is enough time left for this. Good luck.

Lets consider I didnt read your mail, answer me soon you'll be there.
Theres so much ppl interested in Slony round there... What a pain if
you'd not come!!!!!!

Thanks a lot

--
Jean-Paul Argudo
www.PostgreSQLFr.org

Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jan Wieck
Date:
On 1/21/2005 3:45 PM, Jean-Paul Argudo wrote:

>> with only 2 weeks to go and still no decision made by the organizer(s) I
>> cancel my proposed presentation. I am sorry for any inconvenience this
>> may cause on your side.
>
> What a pain... but I understand
>
> As I told Bruce today (surely early for americans), the "organizers" are
> OKAY in paying everything you need.
>
> As told, they wait for you to send them the amount of the plane trip.
> They would organize everything else, depending the days you want to stay
> in Paris (hotel+restaurant).
>
> So please, re-consider your decision, I repeat, everything gone fine finaly!
>
> Be sure I'll ask the questions there to the organizers, for example, why
> being such late in making their expenses approval!!
>
>> Hopefully there is enough time left for this. Good luck.
>
> Lets consider I didnt read your mail, answer me soon you'll be there.
> Theres so much ppl interested in Slony round there... What a pain if
> you'd not come!!!!!!

C'est bon ...

I will touch down with NWA50 on Tuesday February 1st 11:15 at CDG and
depart on Friday February 4th 13:55. I will email you separately about
other details.


Jan

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Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Francois Suter
Date:
Hi Jan,

> C'est bon ...
>
> I will touch down with NWA50 on Tuesday February 1st 11:15 at CDG and
> depart on Friday February 4th 13:55. I will email you separately about
> other details.

That's really good news Jan. Thanks for having reconsidered your
decision. The interest in PostgreSQL is really growing in France. When
we sent out the press releases fro 7.4, there was nearly no feedback.
Now we have already half a dozen articles and news published and more
are on the way (I'll make a list for Josh later).

And I just had a contact with a journalist who would like to interview
either you or Bruce. I told the journalist maybe he could meet with you
during Linux Solutions, but if it's too late for him, when would you be
available? I'm not sure where you live (you or Bruce) and how much time
difference there is...

I'll keep you posted on this.

Cheers

---------------
Francois

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"If it's not from me, it's from Confucius" - Lao Tse


Re: Solutions Linux 2005 Feb 1,2,3 Paris

From
Jan Wieck
Date:
On 1/24/2005 3:37 AM, Francois Suter wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
>> C'est bon ...
>>
>> I will touch down with NWA50 on Tuesday February 1st 11:15 at CDG and
>> depart on Friday February 4th 13:55. I will email you separately about
>> other details.
>
> That's really good news Jan. Thanks for having reconsidered your
> decision. The interest in PostgreSQL is really growing in France. When
> we sent out the press releases fro 7.4, there was nearly no feedback.
> Now we have already half a dozen articles and news published and more
> are on the way (I'll make a list for Josh later).
>
> And I just had a contact with a journalist who would like to interview
> either you or Bruce. I told the journalist maybe he could meet with you
> during Linux Solutions, but if it's too late for him, when would you be
> available? I'm not sure where you live (you or Bruce) and how much time
> difference there is...

If it is too late for him we can do it over the phone. Bruce and I are
both living in the EST/EDT timezone, which is 6 hours behind compared to
Paris. My cellphone number is +1 978.697.7733 and it is most convenient
if he calls around or after 16:00 your time.


Jan

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Tee Shirts for Paris

From
elein@varlena.com (elein)
Date:
Jean-Paul or someone from the Paris group needs to contact
me right now (!) regarding the shipping of the shirts.
The shirts are with FedEx in Paris, but there is a problem
with the access to the delivery address.

I'll be monitoring #postgresqlfr and checking email.

elein
elein@varlena.com
1-(510)-655-2584

Re: Tee Shirts for Paris

From
Christophe Truffier
Date:
elein a écrit :
> Jean-Paul or someone from the Paris group needs to contact
> me right now (!) regarding the shipping of the shirts.
> The shirts are with FedEx in Paris, but there is a problem
> with the access to the delivery address.
>
> I'll be monitoring #postgresqlfr and checking email.
>
> elein
> elein@varlena.com
> 1-(510)-655-2584

Hello,

I'm from the postgresqlfr team, as we discuss on #postgresqlfr could you
send us all the informations so we can contact fedex and keep the
shipping to the right place at the right time ?
Thanks.

CU

P.S.: sorry for my aproximative english

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