Thread: Organizing the OSCON presence
Folks,
The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away.
I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've
heard from:
George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation
Robert Bernier: Tutorial and Presentation, topic unknown
Joe Conway: Extending PostgreSQL With C or PL/R or ??? Tutorial
Elein Varlena: Unknown -- are you attending?
Robert Treat: Submitted List, topic not chosen
Josh Berkus (with Erez Ascher): PHP+PostgreSQL Database-centric
Application Development -- 1/2 day tutorial?
Josh Berkus: Some other presentation, maybe Indexing.
Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting presentations.
Bruce: Not going this year? Yes/no?
Jan: Not presenting?
Josh Drake: Hey, is Command Prompt doing a presentation/getting a booth? You
should at least present on your replication software.
One other thing to settle is for one of the Core to take a "State of
PostgreSQL" presentation and push O'Reilly to give us a time slot. If people
want me to, I'll do it, but if Bruce or Jan are there I'd rather have the
more senior project members on it.
We should also organize things for the BOF and making sure the Speaker's
lounge is staffed with PostgreSQL People.
Finally -- last but not least -- we may have some compensation available for
PostgreSQL people attending who don't have other sponsorship by OSCON. But
Don't Count On It! If you really can't afford to go without financial
help, contact me sooner rather than later. Certainly I do not expect to have
our fundraising organized in time to have a booth -- maybe next time.
(And, can someone who's already given a tutorial at OSCON get in touch with
me? I'm not clear on what a tutorial needs to be other than a longer
presentation with handouts.)
--
-Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco
Yes, I am planning on attending and I'm planning on submitting both a tutorial and a talk. My topic is not yet chosen. I'm leaning toward intro to OR concepts and possibly just plain intro to PostgreSQL for a tutorial. Josh, talk to me wrt php-pg app dev. I've got a new tool you should evaluate. Also, it is possible that David Reese will be presenting an expanded talk/tutorial on the topic of HA that is covered very briefly in this week's PostgreSQL General Bits. (http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits). I would like to help with the coordination of folks since I was critical of our presence last year. I'll see about setting up the BOF. Elein PS: Also, please note that my last name is Mustain although I usually just use "elein"--like "Cher" or "Madonna" ;-) Varlena is my company name and is also the name of the variable length array used as a basis for variable length user defined data types. :-) On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:30:53PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > > I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've > heard from: > > George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation > Robert Bernier: Tutorial and Presentation, topic unknown > Joe Conway: Extending PostgreSQL With C or PL/R or ??? Tutorial > Elein Varlena: Unknown -- are you attending? > Robert Treat: Submitted List, topic not chosen > Josh Berkus (with Erez Ascher): PHP+PostgreSQL Database-centric > Application Development -- 1/2 day tutorial? > Josh Berkus: Some other presentation, maybe Indexing. > > Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting presentations. > > Bruce: Not going this year? Yes/no? > Jan: Not presenting? > Josh Drake: Hey, is Command Prompt doing a presentation/getting a booth? You > should at least present on your replication software. > > One other thing to settle is for one of the Core to take a "State of > PostgreSQL" presentation and push O'Reilly to give us a time slot. If people > want me to, I'll do it, but if Bruce or Jan are there I'd rather have the > more senior project members on it. > > We should also organize things for the BOF and making sure the Speaker's > lounge is staffed with PostgreSQL People. > > Finally -- last but not least -- we may have some compensation available for > PostgreSQL people attending who don't have other sponsorship by OSCON. But > Don't Count On It! If you really can't afford to go without financial > help, contact me sooner rather than later. Certainly I do not expect to have > our fundraising organized in time to have a booth -- maybe next time. > > (And, can someone who's already given a tutorial at OSCON get in touch with > me? I'm not clear on what a tutorial needs to be other than a longer > presentation with handouts.) > > -- > -Josh Berkus > Aglio Database Solutions > San Francisco > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Elein, > I would like to help with the coordination > of folks since I was critical of our presence > last year. I'll see about setting up > the BOF. You are welcome to be in charge. In fact, the speaker@postgresql.org post is currently vacant, as Jillian hasn't answered any of my e-mails in months, probably because I didn't provide her enough support. Sorry, Jillian! I will be happy to be 2nd fiddle to you, since this will be my first presentation at OSCON. > PS: Also, please note that my last name is Mustain > although I usually just use "elein"--like "Cher" > or "Madonna" ;-) Varlena is my company name and > is also the name of the variable length array used as > a basis for variable length user defined > data types. :-) I'm not sure how I arrived at that particular confusion. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: >Folks, > >The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > >I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've >heard from: > >George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation > > >Robert Bernier: Tutorial and Presentation, topic unknown > > I've made application to do a tutorial, 1/2 day presentation, on datamining email. It will use Perl to parse an mbox into a database. The idea of the tutorial is to demonstrate some novel ways of exploring how a typical, unmodified email client can run queries through a postgres server that speaks IMAP. With a little luck I'll be taking the opportunity of writing my OReilly articles about datamining to shape the tutorial. >Joe Conway: Extending PostgreSQL With C or PL/R or ??? Tutorial >Elein Varlena: Unknown -- are you attending? >Robert Treat: Submitted List, topic not chosen >Josh Berkus (with Erez Ascher): PHP+PostgreSQL Database-centric > Application Development -- 1/2 day tutorial? >Josh Berkus: Some other presentation, maybe Indexing. > > >
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. I will submit something like this tutorial which I delivered the other day: http://www.alcove.com.au/lca2004/ Are there other topics which people would like addressed? Gavin
Gavin, > I will submit something like this tutorial which I delivered the other > day: > > http://www.alcove.com.au/lca2004/ Cool! You're flying all the way across the Pacific to join us? -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Gavin, > I've made application to do a tutorial, 1/2 day presentation, on > datamining email. It will use Perl to parse an mbox into a database. The > idea of the tutorial is to demonstrate some novel ways of exploring how > a typical, unmodified email client can run queries through a postgres > server that speaks IMAP. Any chance you can collaborate with Josh Drake on an enhanced list archive search engine? He & I were just discussing stripping header fields into database columns & making them searchable. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Josh Berkus wrote: > Gavin, > > > I will submit something like this tutorial which I delivered the other > > day: > > > > http://www.alcove.com.au/lca2004/ > > Cool! You're flying all the way across the Pacific to join us? > I will need sponsorship from OSCON. That shouldn't be a problem, as last time I spoke at the conference they organised tickets etc. Has this changed? Gavin
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Josh Berkus wrote: > Gavin, Josh, I presume you mean to address this email to Robert? > > > I've made application to do a tutorial, 1/2 day presentation, on > > datamining email. It will use Perl to parse an mbox into a database. The > > idea of the tutorial is to demonstrate some novel ways of exploring how > > a typical, unmodified email client can run queries through a postgres > > server that speaks IMAP. > > Any chance you can collaborate with Josh Drake on an enhanced list archive > search engine? He & I were just discussing stripping header fields into > database columns & making them searchable. > > -- > -Josh Berkus > Aglio Database Solutions > San Francisco > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html >
I'd be happy to do an introductory session similar to the one that I did a few years ago. I don't see anything on the list at that level, and it was pretty successful, I believe. Slides are at http://pgsql.gavinroy.com/oscon2002/ The Other Gavin ;) Josh Berkus wrote: >Folks, > >The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > >I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've >heard from: > >George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation >Robert Bernier: Tutorial and Presentation, topic unknown >Joe Conway: Extending PostgreSQL With C or PL/R or ??? Tutorial >Elein Varlena: Unknown -- are you attending? >Robert Treat: Submitted List, topic not chosen >Josh Berkus (with Erez Ascher): PHP+PostgreSQL Database-centric > Application Development -- 1/2 day tutorial? >Josh Berkus: Some other presentation, maybe Indexing. > >Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting presentations. > >Bruce: Not going this year? Yes/no? >Jan: Not presenting? >Josh Drake: Hey, is Command Prompt doing a presentation/getting a booth? You >should at least present on your replication software. > >One other thing to settle is for one of the Core to take a "State of >PostgreSQL" presentation and push O'Reilly to give us a time slot. If people >want me to, I'll do it, but if Bruce or Jan are there I'd rather have the >more senior project members on it. > >We should also organize things for the BOF and making sure the Speaker's >lounge is staffed with PostgreSQL People. > >Finally -- last but not least -- we may have some compensation available for >PostgreSQL people attending who don't have other sponsorship by OSCON. But >Don't Count On It! If you really can't afford to go without financial >help, contact me sooner rather than later. Certainly I do not expect to have >our fundraising organized in time to have a booth -- maybe next time. > >(And, can someone who's already given a tutorial at OSCON get in touch with >me? I'm not clear on what a tutorial needs to be other than a longer >presentation with handouts.) > > >
Josh Berkus wrote: > You are welcome to be in charge. In fact, the > speaker@postgresql.org post is currently vacant, as Jillian hasn't > answered any of my e-mails in months, probably because I didn't > provide her enough support. Sorry, Jillian! Well, if someone wants to have a speaker, they might as well write to this list, because most of the candidates or those who know candidates are here.
If they have access to the list, list is true. For "outside" people, the speakers@postgresql.org is good, too. They are not mutually exclusive. I can coordinate to the extent necessary and not interfere when it is not necessary. It is also nice to have one person keeping an eye on responses so that requests get answered one way or the other. --elein On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 11:31:53PM +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > You are welcome to be in charge. In fact, the > > speaker@postgresql.org post is currently vacant, as Jillian hasn't > > answered any of my e-mails in months, probably because I didn't > > provide her enough support. Sorry, Jillian! > > Well, if someone wants to have a speaker, they might as well write to > this list, because most of the candidates or those who know candidates > are here. > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org)
Gavin,
> Josh, I presume you mean to address this email to Robert?
Yes. Sorry, bad e-mail editing.
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I'm afraid I don't that much time. I've got three deadlines to meet in the next 10 days. But if its ideas and references that you're looking for I can give you resources on where you can start. Do you want a copy of the OReilly article, it includes source code (Part I) that I've already written? It should be on the oreilly site within the next month or so. It covers how I went about parsing the email into the database engine. regards Rob Josh Berkus wrote: >Gavin, > > > >>I've made application to do a tutorial, 1/2 day presentation, on >>datamining email. It will use Perl to parse an mbox into a database. The >>idea of the tutorial is to demonstrate some novel ways of exploring how >>a typical, unmodified email client can run queries through a postgres >>server that speaks IMAP. >> >> > >Any chance you can collaborate with Josh Drake on an enhanced list archive >search engine? He & I were just discussing stripping header fields into >database columns & making them searchable. > > >
Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > > I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've > heard from: > > George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation > Robert Bernier: Tutorial and Presentation, topic unknown > Joe Conway: Extending PostgreSQL With C or PL/R or ??? Tutorial > Elein Varlena: Unknown -- are you attending? > Robert Treat: Submitted List, topic not chosen > Josh Berkus (with Erez Ascher): PHP+PostgreSQL Database-centric > Application Development -- 1/2 day tutorial? > Josh Berkus: Some other presentation, maybe Indexing. > > Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting presentations. > > Bruce: Not going this year? Yes/no? My travel schedule has been very full, so because there seems like enough people are going, I am not planning to attend. If the date draws near and I don't have a full schedule, I plan to attend. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 22:50, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away.
> >
> > I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've
> > heard from:
> >
> > George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation
> > Robert Bernier: Tutorial and Presentation, topic unknown
> > Joe Conway: Extending PostgreSQL With C or PL/R or ??? Tutorial
> > Elein Varlena: Unknown -- are you attending?
> > Robert Treat: Submitted List, topic not chosen
> > Josh Berkus (with Erez Ascher): PHP+PostgreSQL Database-centric
> > Application Development -- 1/2 day tutorial?
> > Josh Berkus: Some other presentation, maybe Indexing.
> >
> > Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting presentations.
> >
> > Bruce: Not going this year? Yes/no?
>
> My travel schedule has been very full, so because there seems like
> enough people are going, I am not planning to attend. If the date draws
> near and I don't have a full schedule, I plan to attend.
>
This seems somewhat unfortunate given that OSCon is the closest thing we
have to a dedicated postgresql conference. I'll understand if you have
other commitments, but I'd rather have you attend OSCon over just about
any other conference (and I don't think I am alone on that).
Robert Treat
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>This seems somewhat unfortunate given that OSCon is the closest thing we >have to a dedicated postgresql conference. I'll understand if you have >other commitments, but I'd rather have you attend OSCon over just about >any other conference (and I don't think I am alone on that). > > > OSCon is not a very big conference compared to say, LinuxWorld. Yes OSCon is important but I don't think it would make any difference (no offense Bruce) if he were there or not. A lot of other PostgreSQL members will be there. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake >Robert Treat > > -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - jd@commandprompt.com - http://www.commandprompt.com PostgreSQL Replicator -- production quality replication for PostgreSQL
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:30:53PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting
> presentations.
I'm willing to submit something on replication if Jan is not going.
I haven't heard anything from him about this yet. (BTW, I didn't get
much feedback from anyone on the presentation I made last year, & I'm
interested in hearing any brickbats. So if you got 'em, throw 'em.)
I could easily offer something on setting up erserver, living with
its various deficiencies, recovering and failing over, various tricks
you can do with it. Heck, I have more than enough material to do a
half-day tutorial if peopple think there'd be interest. It's got
plenty of problems and therefore requires a lot of hand holding.
Interest?
A
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From the questions I'm getting and the discussions I'm hearing about replication, a tutorial would absolutely be appropriate. elein On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:57:24PM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:30:53PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting > > presentations. > > I'm willing to submit something on replication if Jan is not going. > I haven't heard anything from him about this yet. (BTW, I didn't get > much feedback from anyone on the presentation I made last year, & I'm > interested in hearing any brickbats. So if you got 'em, throw 'em.) > > I could easily offer something on setting up erserver, living with > its various deficiencies, recovering and failing over, various tricks > you can do with it. Heck, I have more than enough material to do a > half-day tutorial if peopple think there'd be interest. It's got > plenty of problems and therefore requires a lot of hand holding. > Interest? > > A > > -- > Andrew Sullivan | ajs@crankycanuck.ca > The plural of anecdote is not data. > --Roger Brinner > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Andrew, > I could easily offer something on setting up erserver, living with > its various deficiencies, recovering and failing over, various tricks > you can do with it. Heck, I have more than enough material to do a > half-day tutorial if peopple think there'd be interest. It's got > plenty of problems and therefore requires a lot of hand holding. > Interest? I'd attend it; I guess the question is how many among the hoi-palloi would. Incidentally, since Bruce may not be going and Jan is also a "maybe" I'm going to put in for "The State of the Elephant: PostgreSQL". -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Robert Treat wrote: > > > Bruce: Not going this year? Yes/no? > > > > My travel schedule has been very full, so because there seems like > > enough people are going, I am not planning to attend. If the date draws > > near and I don't have a full schedule, I plan to attend. > > > > This seems somewhat unfortunate given that OSCon is the closest thing we > have to a dedicated postgresql conference. I'll understand if you have > other commitments, but I'd rather have you attend OSCon over just about > any other conference (and I don't think I am alone on that). OK, that makes sense. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. I'm going to submit an application or two soon. One is a tutorial on how to use the database to help your DBA and application writers get along with other by good use of "advanced" database features. The other one is still in flux, but perhaps a "how to convert from a proprietary database to an open-source one" By open source one I mean PostgreSQL of course ;). > One other thing to settle is for one of the Core to take > a "State of PostgreSQL" presentation and push O'Reilly > to give us a time slot. Are you on this? Have you heard back from O'Reilly on this yet? I really, really want to see this happen. :) - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200401202044 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFADdmbvJuQZxSWSsgRAmpWAJ9HL0lJtiV5qy7kGXhg71C+q8A3PQCg+lH1 MTvbfhYLSFVFoOG4tWPdd7Y= =j1YX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > OSCon is not a very big conference compared to say, LinuxWorld. Yes > OSCon is important but I don't think it would make any difference > (no offense Bruce) if he were there or not. A lot of other > PostgreSQL members will be there. You are joking, right? LinuxWorld is a big vendor-fest. I don't know anyone who goes anymore. OSCON is *the* conference for open-source applications, of which PostgreSQL is one of the best. We also happen to run on things besides Linux anyway. :) I too, would be very surprised if Bruce was not there, and would rather see him miss other talks if it helps him to make this one. Where else can you get Tom and Bruce at the same conference? (Someday, we'll have PostgresCon and this will be a moot point) - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200401202049 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFADds3vJuQZxSWSsgRAtoUAJ49QRi5SW/nl23frKCAGIE0T6qakwCfajiU t93IuNuTutSij8mketon6qI= =oHmR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > > I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've > heard from: > > George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation I still plan on giving a talk on tsearch2. I will submit the proposal to O'Reilly before the end of the month. Work approved the conference, and Oleg Bartunov, an author of tsearch2, said he would give me some advice. George Essig
Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: [ There is text before PGP section. ] > [ PGP not available, raw data follows ] > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > > I'm going to submit an application or two soon. One is a > tutorial on how to use the database to help your DBA and > application writers get along with other by good use of > "advanced" database features. The other one is still in > flux, but perhaps a "how to convert from a proprietary > database to an open-source one" By open source one I mean > PostgreSQL of course ;). > > > One other thing to settle is for one of the Core to take > > a "State of PostgreSQL" presentation and push O'Reilly > > to give us a time slot. > > Are you on this? Have you heard back from O'Reilly on this yet? > I really, really want to see this happen. :) I am going to submit my "Adoption and Trends" talk for a "State of PostgreSQL" talk. I think it is general enough and has lots of interesting ideas even for non-PostgreSQL folks. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
No. I am not.OSCon is not a very big conference compared to say, LinuxWorld. Yes OSCon is important but I don't think it would make any difference (no offense Bruce) if he were there or not. A lot of other PostgreSQL members will be there.You are joking, right?
LinuxWorld is a big vendor-fest.
LinuxWorld is currently the default conference where people go, who want to **buy** Open Source.
I know a great deal of people who go.I don't know anyone who goes anymore.
Yes but I didn't say it wasn't. OSCON is still getting its feet underneath it.OSCON is *the* conference for open-source applications, of which PostgreSQL is one of the best.
It was small and badly implemented (IMHO) last year. This year will
be better I believe.
Yes but Linux and Open Source are quite synonymous. There are exceptions,We also happen to run on things besides Linux anyway. :)
but Linux is the Open Source platform to the majority of the massess. All
other OSS is just something that run on Linux.
Of course those in the know, know differently but then again this gets back
to the perception argument.
I think the fact that we are arguing about Bruce, without Bruce is silly. I think it is hisI too, would be very surprised if Bruce was not there, and would rather see him miss other talks if it helps him to make this one.
decision and that based on the amount of people that will be at OSCon, if he chooses
to not fly the 3000 miles this time, then I say, "Good for him, take a rest."
LinuxWorld? (I actually don't know, just curious)Where else can you get Tom and Bruce at the same conference?
ehhhh.... maybe.(Someday, we'll have PostgresCon and this will be a moot point)
Sincerely,
Joshua D. Drake
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Oleg, Yes, I will mention Search-OpenFTS-Crawler. I just installed it. It's awesome. It so nice to have and end-to-end solution that uses tsearch2. Search-OpenFTS-Crawler demonstrates features like: relevance ranking, word stemming, HTML parsing, and headline generation. I had some trouble installing it though. In particular, I would improve the INSTALL file for Lingua-Stem-Snowball. In step 1, I would include instructions on how install snowball. Include something like: cd /tmp/snowball tar -xvzf ./snowball.tgz gcc -O -o snowball p/*.c Copy or link the executable to a directory in your path. In step 5, I would include an example that uses the bash shell to set the snowball environment variables: SNOWBALL_SRC=/tmp/snowball export SNOWBALL_SRC SNOWBALL_STEMMER=/tmp/stemmers export SNOWBALL_STEMMER Last, I would comment out the following line in Search-OpenFTS-Crawler-0.4/example/init-crawler.pl use lib qw (/u/megera/app/fts/test-suite); Thanks, George --- Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su> wrote: > George, > > probably another example how to use OpenFTS would be > creating searchable PostgreSQL documentation I described in > Search-OpenFTS-Crawler-0.4.tar.gz ? > > Search::OpenFTS::Crawler inherits most functions of Search::OpenFTS and > adds crawler specific methods, so once installed it's very easy to create > searchable collections (on one database). You may download it from > http://openfts.sourceforge.net/contributions.shtml > > Live example: > http://mira.sai.msu.ru/~megera/pgsql/ > > Oleg > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, George Essig wrote: > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > > > > > > I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've > > > heard from: > > > > > > George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation > > > > I still plan on giving a talk on tsearch2. I will submit the proposal to O'Reilly before the > end > > of the month. Work approved the conference, and Oleg Bartunov, an author of tsearch2, said he > > would give me some advice. > > > > George Essig > > > > Regards, > Oleg > _____________________________________________________________ > Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, > Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) > Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ > phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
Bruce, > I am going to submit my "Adoption and Trends" talk for a "State of > PostgreSQL" talk. I think it is general enough and has lots of > interesting ideas even for non-PostgreSQL folks. OK. I'll contact O"Reilly to make sure that this talk is given "State of" status. Last year, the "State of PostgreSQL" was conspicous by its absence ... Of course, one of the other things the OSS public really want to know is what's currently being worked on in PostgreSQL. Are you willing to cover that, in brief, or should we figure out some other way? -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Guys, > LinuxWorld is currently the default conference where people go, who want > to **buy** Open Source. *before* we start another interminable "Developers vs. Marketeers" argument here, let me jump in. Both conferences are important in different ways. We should go to OSCON to reach other OSS developers; we should go to Linuxworld to reach "suits" who are thinking of trying an OSS database for the first time. Both initiatives are important, but different. Regarding *Bruce's* attendence, however, OSCON is the important one. Why? Because the "suits" could care less that he's a senior member of CORE and the commit manager. They will be just as happy with me, or Josh D., or Elein ... maybe happier. They're used to talking to marketing drones -- take a look at the IBM booth at LWE. 65 salespeople, 6 engineers. If we have to pick and choose, our star programmers need to focus on the "developer" conventions, such as OSCON, Gnome, GUADEC, WWDC. The non-source-hackers on this list can pick up the slack at the "suit" conventions. Also, if Comdex improves their OSS Pavillion this year, we may see the importance of LinuxWorld fading in the US. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
George, probably another example how to use OpenFTS would be creating searchable PostgreSQL documentation I described in Search-OpenFTS-Crawler-0.4.tar.gz ? Search::OpenFTS::Crawler inherits most functions of Search::OpenFTS and adds crawler specific methods, so once installed it's very easy to create searchable collections (on one database). You may download it from http://openfts.sourceforge.net/contributions.shtml Live example: http://mira.sai.msu.ru/~megera/pgsql/ Oleg On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, George Essig wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away. > > > > I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've > > heard from: > > > > George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation > > I still plan on giving a talk on tsearch2. I will submit the proposal to O'Reilly before the end > of the month. Work approved the conference, and Oleg Bartunov, an author of tsearch2, said he > would give me some advice. > > George Essig > Regards, Oleg _____________________________________________________________ Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
George,
I'd appreciate if you improve documentation - make it clear and improve
english. Also, if you could make scripts more user friendly...
Oleg
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, George Essig wrote:
> Oleg,
>
> Yes, I will mention Search-OpenFTS-Crawler. I just installed it. It's awesome. It so nice to
> have and end-to-end solution that uses tsearch2. Search-OpenFTS-Crawler demonstrates features
> like: relevance ranking, word stemming, HTML parsing, and headline generation.
>
> I had some trouble installing it though. In particular, I would improve the INSTALL file for
> Lingua-Stem-Snowball. In step 1, I would include instructions on how install snowball. Include
> something like:
>
> cd /tmp/snowball
> tar -xvzf ./snowball.tgz
> gcc -O -o snowball p/*.c
> Copy or link the executable to a directory in your path.
>
> In step 5, I would include an example that uses the bash shell to set the snowball environment
> variables:
>
> SNOWBALL_SRC=/tmp/snowball
> export SNOWBALL_SRC
>
> SNOWBALL_STEMMER=/tmp/stemmers
> export SNOWBALL_STEMMER
>
> Last, I would comment out the following line in Search-OpenFTS-Crawler-0.4/example/init-crawler.pl
>
> use lib qw (/u/megera/app/fts/test-suite);
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
> --- Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su> wrote:
> > George,
> >
> > probably another example how to use OpenFTS would be
> > creating searchable PostgreSQL documentation I described in
> > Search-OpenFTS-Crawler-0.4.tar.gz ?
> >
> > Search::OpenFTS::Crawler inherits most functions of Search::OpenFTS and
> > adds crawler specific methods, so once installed it's very easy to create
> > searchable collections (on one database). You may download it from
> > http://openfts.sourceforge.net/contributions.shtml
> >
> > Live example:
> > http://mira.sai.msu.ru/~megera/pgsql/
> >
> > Oleg
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, George Essig wrote:
> >
> > > Josh Berkus wrote:
> > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > The submission deadline for OSCON 2004 is just 21 days away.
> > > >
> > > > I know that several people here were planning on presenting. So far we've
> > > > heard from:
> > > >
> > > > George Essig: TSearch2 Presentation
> > >
> > > I still plan on giving a talk on tsearch2. I will submit the proposal to O'Reilly before the
> > end
> > > of the month. Work approved the conference, and Oleg Bartunov, an author of tsearch2, said he
> > > would give me some advice.
> > >
> > > George Essig
> > >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Oleg
> > _____________________________________________________________
> > Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
> > Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
> > Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
> > phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
>
Regards,
Oleg
_____________________________________________________________
Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet,
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia)
Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > I think the fact that we are arguing about Bruce, without Bruce > is silly. I think it is his decision and that based on the amount > of people that will be at OSCon, if he chooses to not fly the > 3000 miles this time, then I say, "Good for him, take a rest." SRA pays me to do what is best of the community. If the community says it is important I attend, I attend. I could say "no", but then I wouldn't be doing my job. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> > I am going to submit my "Adoption and Trends" talk for a "State of
> > PostgreSQL" talk. I think it is general enough and has lots of
> > interesting ideas even for non-PostgreSQL folks.
>
> OK. I'll contact O"Reilly to make sure that this talk is given "State of"
> status. Last year, the "State of PostgreSQL" was conspicous by its
> absence ...
>
> Of course, one of the other things the OSS public really want to know is
> what's currently being worked on in PostgreSQL. Are you willing to cover
> that, in brief, or should we figure out some other way?
This is the talk I would give for a State of the Union:
http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/pgsql/adoption_and_trends.pdf
Here is the description:
http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/selecting.html
(They don't have to pay my expenses, but if they want to ...)
Of course, updated for current development status. Josh, would you
submit this? I am not sure how to submit such a presentation. Thanks.
--
Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us
pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001
+ If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road
+ Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Josh Berkus wrote: > Bruce, > > > I am going to submit my "Adoption and Trends" talk for a "State of > > PostgreSQL" talk. I think it is general enough and has lots of > > interesting ideas even for non-PostgreSQL folks. > > OK. I'll contact O"Reilly to make sure that this talk is given "State of" > status. Last year, the "State of PostgreSQL" was conspicous by its > absence ... > > Of course, one of the other things the OSS public really want to know is > what's currently being worked on in PostgreSQL. Are you willing to cover > that, in brief, or should we figure out some other way? Sure, that is in the PDF I just sent. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Josh Berkus wrote: > Guys, > > > LinuxWorld is currently the default conference where people go, who want > > to **buy** Open Source. > > *before* we start another interminable "Developers vs. Marketeers" argument > here, let me jump in. > > Both conferences are important in different ways. We should go to OSCON to > reach other OSS developers; we should go to Linuxworld to reach "suits" who > are thinking of trying an OSS database for the first time. Both initiatives > are important, but different. > > Regarding *Bruce's* attendence, however, OSCON is the important one. Why? > Because the "suits" could care less that he's a senior member of CORE and the > commit manager. They will be just as happy with me, or Josh D., or Elein ... > maybe happier. They're used to talking to marketing drones -- take a look at > the IBM booth at LWE. 65 salespeople, 6 engineers. > > If we have to pick and choose, our star programmers need to focus on the > "developer" conventions, such as OSCON, Gnome, GUADEC, WWDC. The > non-source-hackers on this list can pick up the slack at the "suit" > conventions. > > Also, if Comdex improves their OSS Pavillion this year, we may see the > importance of LinuxWorld fading in the US. FYI, I had 35 people for the LinuxWorld NYC 1.5 hour BOF. It was great. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Of course, updated for current development status. Josh, > would you submit this? I am not sure how to submit such a > presentation. Thanks. I doubt that O'Reilly really needs those submitted. Has anyone confirmed the talk itself with O'Reilly yet? As far as content, this is a 30-minute talk, if I recall correctly, and the main focus should be on "selling" PostgreSQL to the developers there, with a few things thrown in for the other non-tecnical types there (press, managers, non-DB people, etc.) Certainly new features should be a part of it, but given our low profile, I think a little bit of exapanding on our current strengths would be good too. It also should be lively, funny, and interesting. A good example of this is the Perl speech, which is always entertaining, no matter if you use perl or not. Maybe not *quote* as many jokes as Larry Wall, but certainly a few along with some entertaining slides. Placement is also important. I will assume that every group that spoke last year will speak at this one, but ideally we won't get thrown on the end of the night. The best would be to follow Perl's address, of course. It would be a tough act to follow, but everyone will still be awake. :) I have no idea how they determine these things, but my vote is for "as early as possible" in the night. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200401251522 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFAFCapvJuQZxSWSsgRAulbAKCzy7Jn79xThn7DIFrzfnCakKNlAQCgzUlv qTt7TNyyO54Akj92BZ8jOwY= =N2ZQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Andrew Sullivan wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:30:53PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: >> Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting >> presentations. > > I'm willing to submit something on replication if Jan is not going. > I haven't heard anything from him about this yet. (BTW, I didn't get > much feedback from anyone on the presentation I made last year, & I'm > interested in hearing any brickbats. So if you got 'em, throw 'em.) Andrew and I just came out of a meeting. Over the next couple of days I will assemble a list of details to present about Slony-I and will compose a presentation proposal for OSCON by mid next week. Depending on another meeting tomorrow I might as well prepare a second presentation about the new performance features in 7.5, namely ARC, the background writer and eventual new vacuum features. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com #
Jan Wieck wrote: > Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:30:53PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > >> Please! Let's organize this so that nobody submits conflicting > >> presentations. > > > > I'm willing to submit something on replication if Jan is not going. > > I haven't heard anything from him about this yet. (BTW, I didn't get > > much feedback from anyone on the presentation I made last year, & I'm > > interested in hearing any brickbats. So if you got 'em, throw 'em.) > > Andrew and I just came out of a meeting. Over the next couple of days I > will assemble a list of details to present about Slony-I and will > compose a presentation proposal for OSCON by mid next week. Depending on > another meeting tomorrow I might as well prepare a second presentation > about the new performance features in 7.5, namely ARC, the background > writer and eventual new vacuum features. Yes, the new performance features would be a good topic. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
Folks, The OSCON submission deadline is NEXT MONDAY, and so far I see only 3 presentations and 1 tutorial submitted. Please prepare & submit your stuff! Elein, Bruce, are we set up for the "what's new with PostgreSQL" talk, or does that have to be submitted? -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > The OSCON submission deadline is NEXT MONDAY, and so far I see only 3 > presentations and 1 tutorial submitted. Please prepare & submit your stuff! > > Elein, Bruce, are we set up for the "what's new with PostgreSQL" talk, or does > that have to be submitted? I have one for the state of the union. However, because it supposed to be funny, I am thinking of a spoof report about PostgreSQL. I think it could be funny. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
I submitted a request to Nat and have not heard anything back. Did anyone actually submit the talk? If not, please do so. State of PostgreSQL was actually how I presented it and I requested that it be part of a general session. It however, can be one of the talks. elein On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 11:25:05AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: > > Folks, > > > > The OSCON submission deadline is NEXT MONDAY, and so far I see only 3 > > presentations and 1 tutorial submitted. Please prepare & submit your stuff! > > > > Elein, Bruce, are we set up for the "what's new with PostgreSQL" talk, or does > > that have to be submitted? > > I have one for the state of the union. However, because it supposed to > be funny, I am thinking of a spoof report about PostgreSQL. I think it > could be funny. > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us > pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road > + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to majordomo@postgresql.org
I don't expect you would here of anything until after the deadline. elein wrote: >I submitted a request to Nat and have not heard anything >back. Did anyone actually submit the talk? If not, please >do so. State of PostgreSQL was actually how I presented it >and I requested that it be part of a general session. It >however, can be one of the talks. > >elein > >
I have gone ahead and submitted a presentation on PostgreSQL and active database design. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Berkus" <josh@agliodbs.com> To: "Postgresql Advocacy" <pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org> Cc: "Jan Wieck" <JanWieck@yahoo.com>; <mail@joeconway.com>; "Bruce Momjian" <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: [pgsql-advocacy] Only SEVEN DAYS Until OSCON Deadline! > Folks, > > The OSCON submission deadline is NEXT MONDAY, and so far I see only 3 > presentations and 1 tutorial submitted. Please prepare & submit your stuff! > > Elein, Bruce, are we set up for the "what's new with PostgreSQL" talk, or does > that have to be submitted? > > -- > -Josh Berkus > Aglio Database Solutions > San Francisco > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) > >
People, We only have tommorrow and the weekend left for people to submit proposals for OSCON. Currently there are just 2 tutorials, and 7 talks in the system ... and 2 of those talks are doubling up, so we really only have 5! It's not enough! SUBMIT, SUBMIT, SUBMIT! http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2004/create/e_sess -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco