Thread: Re: R: PostgreSQL book
PostgreSQL: Introduction and Concepts by Bruce Momjian You can download a postscript version and print yourself a copy, or read it online at http://www.postgresql.org/docs/awbook.html ---------- Marc SCHAEFER wrote that the Addison-Wesley wrote a book on PostgreSQL. Anyone can give me the title and the author or the way to find it? Here in italy i can't find nothing !! Thanks -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Marc SCHAEFER" <schaefer@alphanet.ch> A: <pgsql-general@postgresql.org> Data invio: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 03:51 PM Oggetto: [GENERAL] Some advanced database features, are they present in PostgreSQL > Hi, > > I have been using PostgreSQL a bit and I have been surprised by the good > quality, the features, and now the Addison-Wesley book which is excellent. > However, I have some questions about the implementation of a few > additional features. > > I suppose that PostgreSQL hasn't any ability to do the following yet: > > - log all transactions to a special log file, that can be used for > backup purposes: ie you dump the database every day, but you keep > the transaction log on a separate disk. Should the database disk > crash, you won't have any data loss if you restore the backup and > replay the transaction log. > > - hard transactions: cutting the power to a PostgreSQL server > may cause data loss and/or data corruption. Some databases use > sophisticated techniques to ensure serialization of operation > through journaling, redoing some of the transactions at > bootup time if required. > > - the ability to synchronize two database servers, with only the > changes being exchanged, live. Or the ability to have many > servers in a load-balancing or data scattering pool. > > - ability to have databases bigger than the host's maximum file size > > if this is true, can someone tell me why it hasn't been implemented yet > (there might be very good reasons), if it will be, and if the task seems > complicated. > > thank you for your time. > > > >
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, source wrote: > You can download a postscript version and print yourself a copy, or read > it online at http://www.postgresql.org/docs/awbook.html I have read the PDF version (without printing it), and I will enjoy the book when it's available here, ie probably about December. I will buy the book to support the author and also Addison-Wesley, since they allowed the Internet publication. That book is definitely worth reading.
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, source wrote: > > > You can download a postscript version and print yourself a copy, or read > > it online at http://www.postgresql.org/docs/awbook.html > > I have read the PDF version (without printing it), and I will enjoy the > book when it's available here, ie probably about December. I will buy the > book to support the author and also Addison-Wesley, since they allowed the > Internet publication. > > That book is definitely worth reading. While ordering a book from Amazon, I found that they already have it available to pre-order, including a photo of the cover. This may or may not work: The book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201703319/o/qid=971287877/sr=8-/026-2271509-1950830 The cover pic: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0201703319.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg It's 30.99 here in the UK. -- Peter T Mount peter@retep.org.uk http://www.retep.org.uk PostgreSQL JDBC Driver http://www.retep.org.uk/postgres/ Java PDF Generator http://www.retep.org.uk/pdf/
> While ordering a book from Amazon, I found that they already have it > available to pre-order, including a photo of the cover. Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address. After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming me, I simply gave up and dropped the email account. steve
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> > While ordering a book from Amazon, I found that they already have it
> > available to pre-order, including a photo of the cover.
>
> Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address.
>
> After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming me, I
> simply gave up and dropped the email account.
Wow, that is terrible. That and their "one-click" licensing patent have
made me use Barnes and Noble almost exclusively (bn.com). Actually, BN
has a much larger catalog of out-of-print books.
FYI, I have added an image of the book cover on my web site:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/awbook.html
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Steve Wolfe wrote: > > While ordering a book from Amazon, I found that they already have it > > available to pre-order, including a photo of the cover. > > Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address. > > After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming me, I > simply gave up and dropped the email account. I've always used a disposable email address with them (and most other companies I deal with). But you might want to take another look at their privacy policy before you order. Not too long ago they declared that their customer info is an asset. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 128K ISDN from $22.00/mo - 56K Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
>> Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address. >> >> After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming >me, I >> simply gave up and dropped the email account. > >I've always used a disposable email address with them (and most other >companies I deal with). But you might want to take another look at >their privacy policy before you order. Not too long ago they declared >that their customer info is an asset. Customer info as an asset aside, I've never been spammed by amazon, and I use the same email as I'm using now. I'm more worried about limiting the number of credit cards I use online :) If nothing else, Amazon and BN both over large pools of reader reviews that I usually scan before buying any book. Why not be informed, even slightly? Rob Nelson rdnelson@co.centre.pa.us
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:42:17PM -0600, Steve Wolfe wrote: > > While ordering a book from Amazon, I found that they already have it > > available to pre-order, including a photo of the cover. > > Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address. > > After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming me, I > simply gave up and dropped the email account. I've never had any problems with them, and I've been ordering from them for years now. The one time they messed up an order and shipped me (what turned out to be) an extra book, they sent me a kit to ship it back within a day. -- Adam Haberlach | A billion hours ago, human life appeared on adam@newsnipple.com | earth. A billion minutes ago, Christianity http://www.newsnipple.com | emerged. A billion Coca-Colas ago was '88 EX500 | yesterday morning. -1996 Coca-Cola Ann. Rpt.
That is my experience with Amazon.com too. And Amazon's book reviews are most helpful at buying time. That doesn't mean that looking information at Amazon will restrict you to Amazon; you can read reviews at Amazon and buy at BN. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert D. Nelson" <RDNELSON@co.centre.pa.us> To: "Steve Wolfe" <steve@iboats.com>; "Vince Vielhaber" <vev@michvhf.com> Cc: "pgsql-general" <pgsql-general@postgresql.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 3:20 PM Subject: RE: R: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL book > >> Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address. > >> > >> After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming > >me, I > >> simply gave up and dropped the email account. > > > >I've always used a disposable email address with them (and most other > >companies I deal with). But you might want to take another look at > >their privacy policy before you order. Not too long ago they declared > >that their customer info is an asset. > > Customer info as an asset aside, I've never been spammed by amazon, and I > use the same email as I'm using now. I'm more worried about limiting the > number of credit cards I use online :) > > If nothing else, Amazon and BN both over large pools of reader reviews that > I usually scan before buying any book. Why not be informed, even slightly? > > > Rob Nelson > rdnelson@co.centre.pa.us > >
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Wow, that is terrible. That and their "one-click" licensing patent have > made me use Barnes and Noble almost exclusively (bn.com). Actually, BN > has a much larger catalog of out-of-print books. And they are accepting pre-orders. I did mine about two weeks ago. Rod -- Roderick A. Anderson raanders@altoplanos.net Altoplanos Information Systems, Inc. Voice: 208.765.6149 212 S. 11th Street, Suite 5 FAX: 208.664.5299 Coeur d'Alene, ID 83814
..not to mention that it is now Amazon's official policy
to use/share personal information they now/will have on
you, arguably, any way they wish:
http://www.amazon.com/privacy-notice
Morey Parang
Oak Ridge National Lab
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:42:17PM -0600, Steve Wolfe wrote:
> > While ordering a book from Amazon, I found that they already have it
> > available to pre-order, including a photo of the cover.
>
> Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address.
>
> After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming me, I
> simply gave up and dropped the email account.
>
> steve
>
No matter where you choose to buy it, do buy it and support Bruce, PostgreSQL and the publisher for allowing it to be electronically published!! -Mitch ----- Original Message ----- From: <mjp@ornl.gov> To: "Steve Wolfe" <steve@iboats.com> Cc: <pgsql-general@postgresql.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: R: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL book > > ..not to mention that it is now Amazon's official policy > to use/share personal information they now/will have on > you, arguably, any way they wish: > > http://www.amazon.com/privacy-notice > > Morey Parang > Oak Ridge National Lab
I stopped buying from and supporting Amazon.com over both their one-click patent (enforced against Barnes & Noble and now recently, very publicly, licensed to apple.com even though Bezos stated to Tim O'Reilly in a public discussion on business patents that it would be used for _defensive_ purposes only) and their newer patent on affiliate shopping networks. Other people have mentioned the obvious barnesandnoble.com. I wanted to suggest that people check out bookpool.com. I've found terrific discounts from them (O'Reilly books are normally 40% off) and their shipping is dirt-cheap with no handling surcharges. All the books I've received have always been in very good condition. Take care, Daniel
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Robert D. Nelson wrote: > >> Heaven help you if you order it from Amazon with a real email address. > >> > >> After about a year and a half of trying to get them to stop spamming > >me, I > >> simply gave up and dropped the email account. > > > >I've always used a disposable email address with them (and most other > >companies I deal with). But you might want to take another look at > >their privacy policy before you order. Not too long ago they declared > >that their customer info is an asset. > > Customer info as an asset aside, I've never been spammed by amazon, and I > use the same email as I'm using now. I'm more worried about limiting the > number of credit cards I use online :) I have to admit that I've never been spammed by amazon at all. So far (and now I say it it will change :-( ) I don't get that much spam anyhow. > If nothing else, Amazon and BN both over large pools of reader reviews that > I usually scan before buying any book. Why not be informed, even slightly? It's always wise to check the reviews. I've saved a lot of money by not buying books based on them. One that comes to mind was where the author himself slated his own book... Peter -- Peter T Mount peter@retep.org.uk http://www.retep.org.uk PostgreSQL JDBC Driver http://www.retep.org.uk/postgres/ Java PDF Generator http://www.retep.org.uk/pdf/
I'll second Bookpool for computer books. I've used them a couple of times and they are good. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Travis Bauer | CS Grad Student | IU |www.cs.indiana.edu/~trbauer ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Daniel Freedman wrote: > > I stopped buying from and supporting Amazon.com over both their one-click > patent (enforced against Barnes & Noble and now recently, very publicly, > licensed to apple.com even though Bezos stated to Tim O'Reilly in a public > discussion on business patents that it would be used for _defensive_ > purposes only) and their newer patent on affiliate shopping networks. > > Other people have mentioned the obvious barnesandnoble.com. I wanted to > suggest that people check out bookpool.com. I've found terrific discounts > from them (O'Reilly books are normally 40% off) and their shipping is > dirt-cheap with no handling surcharges. All the books I've received have > always been in very good condition. > > Take care, > > Daniel >
I searched bookpool for pgsql and found nothing. It's not available for preordering and there are no pgsql book at all. At least, I searched for "postgresql"; the system returned "No Books Found". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Bauer" <trbauer@cs.indiana.edu> To: "Daniel Freedman" <freedman@ccmr.cornell.edu> Cc: <pgsql-general@postgresql.org> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Re: R: PostgreSQL book > I'll second Bookpool for computer books. I've used them a couple of times > and they are good. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Travis Bauer | CS Grad Student | IU |www.cs.indiana.edu/~trbauer > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Daniel Freedman wrote: > > > > > I stopped buying from and supporting Amazon.com over both their one-click > > patent (enforced against Barnes & Noble and now recently, very publicly, > > licensed to apple.com even though Bezos stated to Tim O'Reilly in a public > > discussion on business patents that it would be used for _defensive_ > > purposes only) and their newer patent on affiliate shopping networks. > > > > Other people have mentioned the obvious barnesandnoble.com. I wanted to > > suggest that people check out bookpool.com. I've found terrific discounts > > from them (O'Reilly books are normally 40% off) and their shipping is > > dirt-cheap with no handling surcharges. All the books I've received have > > always been in very good condition. > > > > Take care, > > > > Daniel > > > >
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000, Travis Bauer wrote:
> I'll second Bookpool for computer books. I've used them a couple of times
> and they are good.
I'm a big fan of readme.doc -- especially because they have a store only
minutes from my house!
Brett W. McCoy
http://www.chapelperilous.net
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> I have to admit that I've never been spammed by amazon at all. So far (and > now I say it it will change :-( ) I don't get that much spam anyhow. > > > If nothing else, Amazon and BN both over large pools of reader reviews that > > I usually scan before buying any book. Why not be informed, even slightly? > > It's always wise to check the reviews. I've saved a lot of money by not > buying books based on them. One that comes to mind was where the author > himself slated his own book... Way off topic, but as far as spamming, it seems to me that user or domain blocking should be part of all mail readers. I know procmail has it, but those many people with POP accounts should have a way to block things. Ideally, sendmail would have an interface so recipient/user/domain combinations could be blocked at the SMTP level, so the mail never even is accepted. I administer my own e-mail domain, so I have a spam file that I maintain to block incoming mail. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026