Thread: Links to all these news articles?
Is someone putting links to all of these nice news articles
onto the advocacy site? They seem critically important
as advocacy tools, imho.
elein
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Is someone putting links to all of these nice news articles > onto the advocacy site? They seem critically important > as advocacy tools, imho. I think that is the plan eventually. For now, the main reason I am posting (and forwarding) things to the list is to have them available in the archives and have a searchable record somewhere. I will look into starting a links page (if nobody else does) when I get some free time. Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200212041205 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: http://www.turnstep.com/pgp.html iD8DBQE97jYXvJuQZxSWSsgRAllXAJwLf4sWIP+PYe6dFg32JjvmcZpauwCg2wMH o1GxI63gaoEV7Y2VKr6xA1A= =CEl0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Actually I looked into it last night and it's somewhat messy, which is why it hasn't gotten done yet. Hopefully I'll have time tonight to add at least one item in and see if I can get a feel for it though honestly I think there are questions about the technical back end that need to be addressed soon, we seem to already be getting ahead of ourselves with the current setup. Robert Treat On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 11:55, greg@turnstep.com wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Is someone putting links to all of these nice news articles > > onto the advocacy site? They seem critically important > > as advocacy tools, imho. > > I think that is the plan eventually. For now, the main reason > I am posting (and forwarding) things to the list is to have them > available in the archives and have a searchable record somewhere. > I will look into starting a links page (if nobody else does) when > I get some free time. > > Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com > PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200212041205
Robert Treat wrote: > Actually I looked into it last night and it's somewhat messy, which is > why it hasn't gotten done yet. Hopefully I'll have time tonight to add > at least one item in and see if I can get a feel for it though honestly > I think there are questions about the technical back end that need to be > addressed soon, we seem to already be getting ahead of ourselves with > the current setup. Yep, we need to adjust the way that information is stored in the backend because it's been proving that it's a complete pain to update without throwing out all of sync all of the non-English versions. It's a time and effort thing, and not a small one. Will probably take a good 8 hours of webmastering effort to re-arrange things and make it maintainable. :-/ Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > Robert Treat -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
> Yep, we need to adjust the way that information is stored in the backend > because it's been proving that it's a complete pain to update without > throwing out all of sync all of the non-English versions. > > It's a time and effort thing, and not a small one. Will probably take a > good 8 hours of webmastering effort to re-arrange things and make it > maintainable. Would using a proper content engine like Bricolage help? What are you using at the moment? Chris
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: <snip> > Would using a proper content engine like Bricolage help? What are you using > at the moment? Um, not sure. It needs to be multi-lingual and allow translators to be automatically notified whenever the English version of stuff is updated. Haven't used Bricolage, but did take a look at it when looking at other CMS sytems. For the CMS usage that was needed it looked too involved, but if it's suitable for complete multi-lingual site maintenance and development then we might be dumb to ignore it. Have you used Bricolage much? :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > Chris > -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 08:47 pm, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > Yep, we need to adjust the way that information is stored in the backend > > because it's been proving that it's a complete pain to update without > > throwing out all of sync all of the non-English versions. > > > > It's a time and effort thing, and not a small one. Will probably take a > > good 8 hours of webmastering effort to re-arrange things and make it > > maintainable. > > Would using a proper content engine like Bricolage help? What are you > using at the moment? > After hearing David's interview last night, I definitely think it's worth a closer look. In fact it might be something that could be used for all of the PostgreSQL web sites, lord knows we're duplicating efforts already. Robert Treat
These things are very timely right now with the release.
A short term plan is called for. It is just a list of links.
Then do the long term, big tools plan.
elein
On Monday 02 December 2002 18:11, elein wrote:
> Is someone putting links to all of these nice news articles
> onto the advocacy site? They seem critically important
> as advocacy tools, imho.
>
> elein
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> Um, not sure. It needs to be multi-lingual and allow translators to be > automatically notified whenever the English version of stuff is updated. > > Haven't used Bricolage, but did take a look at it when looking at other > CMS sytems. For the CMS usage that was needed it looked too involved, > but if it's suitable for complete multi-lingual site maintenance and > development then we might be dumb to ignore it. > > Have you used Bricolage much? Not in the slightest - I was just wondering ;) The docs seem to be a bit crap - I can't see if it does multilingual easily... Chris
You might think it's just a list of links, but I'd guess there's a good 3.7 billion lines of code running behind that list of links... At least it felt like it when I added the release announcement to the site tonight. I really can't stress what an arduous task it is to add new content. It's so bad that a word like arduous popped in to my brain... That said, everyone please take a look and tell me how butchered you think it is... :=\ Robert Treat On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:53:38 -0500, elein wrote: > These things are very timely right now with the release. A short term > plan is called for. It is just a list of links. > > Then do the long term, big tools plan.=20=20 > > elein > > On Monday 02 December 2002 18:11, elein wrote: >> Is someone putting links to all of these nice news articles onto the >> advocacy site? They seem critically important as advocacy tools, imho. >> >> elein
Hi Robert, Wow, that was really well done. Now that you've had to deal with the present structure, do you feel a better way of treating the content of each page would be to have it all be one field that each translator can fill in? Instead of the present multi-field approach? :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift Robert Treat wrote: > You might think it's just a list of links, but I'd guess there's a good > 3.7 billion lines of code running behind that list of links... > > At least it felt like it when I added the release announcement to the > site tonight. I really can't stress what an arduous task it is to add new > content. It's so bad that a word like arduous popped in to my brain... That > said, everyone please take a look and tell me how butchered > you think it is... > > :=\ > > Robert Treat -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
BTW Justin - how's that case study doc coming along? :) Chris
One thing to note is that David might be quite willing to co-ordinate this, as it would give a very very high profile use of Bricolage? On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Robert Treat wrote: > On Wednesday 04 December 2002 08:47 pm, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > > Yep, we need to adjust the way that information is stored in the backend > > > because it's been proving that it's a complete pain to update without > > > throwing out all of sync all of the non-English versions. > > > > > > It's a time and effort thing, and not a small one. Will probably take a > > > good 8 hours of webmastering effort to re-arrange things and make it > > > maintainable. > > > > Would using a proper content engine like Bricolage help? What are you > > using at the moment? > > > > After hearing David's interview last night, I definitely think it's worth a > closer look. In fact it might be something that could be used for all of the > PostgreSQL web sites, lord knows we're duplicating efforts already. > > Robert Treat > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly >