Thread: PostgreSQL ad images
there was quite a bit of talk about producing some ad graphics in stock sizes a while back, but it's died down. is there anything available? i have some 120x600 skyscrapers being served by google and fastclick where i'd be happy to stick a few PostgreSQL images up. i just need the images... richard -- Richard P. Welty rwelty@averillpark.net 518-269-8232
Richard P. Welty wrote:
> there was quite a bit of talk about producing some
> ad graphics in stock sizes a while back, but it's died
> down. is there anything available? i have some 120x600
> skyscrapers being served by google and fastclick where i'd
> be happy to stick a few PostgreSQL images up. i just
> need the images...
I think you want:
http://pgfoundry.org/docman/?group_id=1000089
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On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Richard P. Welty wrote: >> there was quite a bit of talk about producing some >> ad graphics in stock sizes a while back, but it's died >> down. is there anything available? i have some 120x600 >> skyscrapers being served by google and fastclick where i'd >> be happy to stick a few PostgreSQL images up. i just >> need the images... > > I think you want: > > http://pgfoundry.org/docman/?group_id=1000089 yep, i looked at that a week or so back. there's lots of good stuff there, but nothing i can drop into a 120x600 skyscraper and i'm no graphic artist, i'm utterly helpless at morphing any of these into the size i actually need... there are a number of stock sizes for these, so images designed to drop in would be incredibly helpful. richard -- Richard P. Welty rwelty@averillpark.net 518-269-8232
Richard, > yep, i looked at that a week or so back. there's lots of good > stuff there, but nothing i can drop into a 120x600 skyscraper > and i'm no graphic artist, i'm utterly helpless at morphing > any of these into the size i actually need... > > there are a number of stock sizes for these, so images designed > to drop in would be incredibly helpful. This is an excellent idea. Unfortunately, we're a little short graphic designers; the only ones I know of are Gavin, and Robert Treat's friends. Anyone? -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Friday 10 February 2006 22:35, Richard P. Welty wrote: > On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Richard P. Welty wrote: > >> there was quite a bit of talk about producing some > >> ad graphics in stock sizes a while back, but it's died > >> down. is there anything available? i have some 120x600 > >> skyscrapers being served by google and fastclick where i'd > >> be happy to stick a few PostgreSQL images up. i just > >> need the images... > > > > I think you want: > > > > http://pgfoundry.org/docman/?group_id=1000089 > > yep, i looked at that a week or so back. there's lots of good > stuff there, but nothing i can drop into a 120x600 skyscraper > and i'm no graphic artist, i'm utterly helpless at morphing > any of these into the size i actually need... > > there are a number of stock sizes for these, so images designed > to drop in would be incredibly helpful. > somewhere in my inbox I believe I have a tarball (or maybe zipball) of reformatted graphics that were supposed to be google adwords friendly. I was awaiting to hear back from some beta testing but haven't. I'm in the middle of reshaping a 3-node slony cluster but I'll send them over to you when I'm done so you can take a look. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
Robert,
I think you are talking about 40+ images I sent to you around the holidays. There was a problem with your email (as I recall) so I was never sure if they reached your box.
She (my wife) made them on an IMac & I'm not sure if they were a zip or some special Mac flavor. If you have problems opening, let me know and I'll track them down.
If they meet the eyeball test, you were going to add them to the site (somewhere). That would be good as I'll lose track of them at some point.
Thanks,
Mike Ellsworth
Robert Treat wrote:
I think you are talking about 40+ images I sent to you around the holidays. There was a problem with your email (as I recall) so I was never sure if they reached your box.
She (my wife) made them on an IMac & I'm not sure if they were a zip or some special Mac flavor. If you have problems opening, let me know and I'll track them down.
If they meet the eyeball test, you were going to add them to the site (somewhere). That would be good as I'll lose track of them at some point.
Thanks,
Mike Ellsworth
Robert Treat wrote:
On Friday 10 February 2006 22:35, Richard P. Welty wrote:On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:Richard P. Welty wrote:there was quite a bit of talk about producing some ad graphics in stock sizes a while back, but it's died down. is there anything available? i have some 120x600 skyscrapers being served by google and fastclick where i'd be happy to stick a few PostgreSQL images up. i just need the images...I think you want: http://pgfoundry.org/docman/?group_id=1000089yep, i looked at that a week or so back. there's lots of good stuff there, but nothing i can drop into a 120x600 skyscraper and i'm no graphic artist, i'm utterly helpless at morphing any of these into the size i actually need... there are a number of stock sizes for these, so images designed to drop in would be incredibly helpful.somewhere in my inbox I believe I have a tarball (or maybe zipball) of reformatted graphics that were supposed to be google adwords friendly. I was awaiting to hear back from some beta testing but haven't. I'm in the middle of reshaping a 3-node slony cluster but I'll send them over to you when I'm done so you can take a look.
On Saturday 11 February 2006 08:50, Mike Ellsworth wrote:
> Robert,
>
> I think you are talking about 40+ images I sent to you around the
> holidays. There was a problem with your email (as I recall) so I was
> never sure if they reached your box.
>
Oh yes, it's all coming back to me now. I found and they are really excellent!
> She (my wife) made them on an IMac & I'm not sure if they were a zip or
> some special Mac flavor. If you have problems opening, let me know and
> I'll track them down.
>
nope, standard zip, opened up fine
> If they meet the eyeball test, you were going to add them to the site
> (somewhere). That would be good as I'll lose track of them at some point.
>
Well, they certainly pass the eyeball test. I do remember what I was waiting
on and that was for someone to actually make use of them in adwords to make
sure they worked in that system. barring that I am going to add them to the
site anyway cause they are very cool. I'll drop a note here when I am done.
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Robert Treat
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On Feb 11, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Robert Treat wrote: > Well, they certainly pass the eyeball test. I do remember what I > was waiting > on and that was for someone to actually make use of them in adwords > to make > sure they worked in that system. barring that I am going to add > them to the > site anyway cause they are very cool. I'll drop a note here when I > am done. Mike Ellsworth had copies and sent them to me, so i'll be setting them up with google and fastclick later today, and then we'll know... i can't see a single reason why they wouldn't do the job. richard -- Richard P. Welty rwelty@averillpark.net 518-269-8232
On Feb 11, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Robert Treat wrote: > > Well, they certainly pass the eyeball test. I do remember what I > was waiting > on and that was for someone to actually make use of them in adwords > to make > sure they worked in that system. barring that I am going to add > them to the > site anyway cause they are very cool. I'll drop a note here when I > am done. basically, the setup is pretty straightforward. for google adwords, you need to create a simple html file like this. <html> <head> <title></title> </head> <body> <a href="http://www.postgresql.org/"><img src="http://www.na-motorsports.com/images/psql/5_120x600.gif" border='0' /></a> </body> </html> you place it on your web server, and then something like the following gets added to your adsense code (google will generate this code for you in your adsense management panel, but it doesn't store it, it just adds it to the javascript for you to cut-and-paste): google_alternate_ad_url = "http://www.na-motorsports.com/google- pgsql.html"; fastclick is if anything easier, you go to the management panel for the particular campaign (based on the size/style of the ad) and a specify the url of the image and the url the click should direct to for your base default campaign. from the viewpoint of stats i'm not sure what either google or fastclick will do with these alternate campaigns. (so will psql advertising on my auto racing web site be of any value? hell if i know, but i will observe that in my experience, there is heavy computer geek/road racing geek overlap. i'm probably going to be pushing 500,000 page impressions a month in june and july, might as well kick 1% of it towards a noble cause.) richard -- Richard P. Welty rwelty@averillpark.net 518-269-8232
Feel free to send any ad or pgsql images on to me and i'll put them up for hosting on the pgsql graphics project archive on pgfoundry.org... Chris Richard P. Welty wrote: > > On Feb 11, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Robert Treat wrote: >> Well, they certainly pass the eyeball test. I do remember what I was >> waiting >> on and that was for someone to actually make use of them in adwords to >> make >> sure they worked in that system. barring that I am going to add them >> to the >> site anyway cause they are very cool. I'll drop a note here when I am >> done. > > Mike Ellsworth had copies and sent them to me, so i'll be setting them up > with google and fastclick later today, and then we'll know... i can't see a > single reason why they wouldn't do the job. > > richard > --Richard P. Welty > rwelty@averillpark.net 518-269-8232 > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to > choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not > match
On Feb 12, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Feel free to send any ad or pgsql images on to me and i'll put them > up for hosting on the pgsql graphics project archive on > pgfoundry.org... Robert Treat asked me to hold up on using some images because of potential permissions images (fortunately there are 4 that don't present problems, i'm currently using those while he figures out if we can use these images in ad banners). so i recommend holding off while that gets worked out, or else only putting up the non-elephant ones. the images Mike Ellsworth gave me (all are for 120x600 skyscrapers) are sitting at: http://www.na-motorsports.com/images/psql/ the ones that are ok to use right now are the ones with names beginning with 1_, 2_, 3_, and 4_ richard -- Richard P. Welty rwelty@averillpark.net 518-269-8232
Sorry about that. I wasn't aware of any constraints (other than size) when I asked her to put together a package. If someone can tell me what can/cannot be done, I'll let her know and she will rework them. Thanks, Mike Richard P. Welty wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > >> Feel free to send any ad or pgsql images on to me and i'll put them >> up for hosting on the pgsql graphics project archive on pgfoundry.org... > > > Robert Treat asked me to hold up on using some images because > of potential permissions images (fortunately there are > 4 that don't present problems, i'm currently using those while > he figures out if we can use these images in ad banners). > > so i recommend holding off while that gets worked out, or else only > putting up the non-elephant ones. > > the images Mike Ellsworth gave me (all are for 120x600 skyscrapers) are > sitting at: > > http://www.na-motorsports.com/images/psql/ > > the ones that are ok to use right now are the ones > with names beginning with 1_, 2_, 3_, and 4_ > > richard
The issue is that we do not own the copyright on the elephant photo image we use on the main website. We have a license to use it for the website, and generally we could probably reuse it in an ad banner, but we can't release it under a creative commons license (like our other graphics) which means that people who want to remix/mashup postgresql related images may or may not have problems in the future. We would like to avoid this, so instead we're going to attempt to make use of the elephant photo graphic used on the pgadmin site, which we have full permissions to re-release (Thanks to Andreas Pflug). Mike, see what you guys can do with this elephant... http://pgadmin.org/images/logo-ltr.jpg, or maybe Andres can send me the original and we could put it into the graphics repository. BTW, if anyone else has some elephant photo's like this they would be willing to share, please don't be shy about letting us know. Robert Treat On Sunday 12 February 2006 21:15, Mike Ellsworth wrote: > Sorry about that. > > I wasn't aware of any constraints (other than size) when I asked her to > put together a package. > > If someone can tell me what can/cannot be done, I'll let her know and > she will rework them. > > Thanks, > Mike > > Richard P. Welty wrote: > > On Feb 12, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > >> Feel free to send any ad or pgsql images on to me and i'll put them > >> up for hosting on the pgsql graphics project archive on > >> pgfoundry.org... > > > > Robert Treat asked me to hold up on using some images because > > of potential permissions images (fortunately there are > > 4 that don't present problems, i'm currently using those while > > he figures out if we can use these images in ad banners). > > > > so i recommend holding off while that gets worked out, or else only > > putting up the non-elephant ones. > > > > the images Mike Ellsworth gave me (all are for 120x600 skyscrapers) are > > sitting at: > > > > http://www.na-motorsports.com/images/psql/ > > > > the ones that are ok to use right now are the ones > > with names beginning with 1_, 2_, 3_, and 4_ > > > > richard > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
Robert Treat wrote: > The issue is that we do not own the copyright on the elephant photo image we > use on the main website. We have a license to use it for the website, and > generally we could probably reuse it in an ad banner, but we can't release it > under a creative commons license (like our other graphics) which means that > people who want to remix/mashup postgresql related images may or may not have > problems in the future. We would like to avoid this, so instead we're going > to attempt to make use of the elephant photo graphic used on the pgadmin > site, which we have full permissions to re-release (Thanks to Andreas Pflug). > Mike, see what you guys can do with this elephant... > http://pgadmin.org/images/logo-ltr.jpg, or maybe Andres can send me the > original and we could put it into the graphics repository. I must have the hires version (gimp with transparent backgnd) somewhere too. I'll have to dig for it. Regards, Andreas
Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 16:23 schrieb Robert Treat: > The issue is that we do not own the copyright on the elephant photo image > we use on the main website. We have a license to use it for the website, > and generally we could probably reuse it in an ad banner, but we can't > release it under a creative commons license (like our other graphics) On the matter of licenses: The web site of the logo-collecting project claims both that logos are under the BSD license and the Create Commons license. This should be cleared up. "Newer items" is not clear enough. None of the downloads I tried actually mentioned a specific license. Then, Create Commons is not a license but a set of licenses. You need to be clear which one you want. I would, however, strongly advise against the Create Commons licenses. First of all, it creates weird problems if someone wants to include the graphics in a program or documentation licenses under a BSD or (L)GPL license. And second, even if you look past that, neither the Open Source Initiative nor the Debian Free Software Guidelines seem to think that Create Commons licenses are acceptable open source licenses, so programs creates using those graphics will have serious problems. Is there a reason why the BSD license cannot continue to be used? -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/
OK --- she will do what she can with this new elephant and if Andreas can find the hi-res, she will update whatever new work she develops.
As far as license, all should understand that whatever we do on our end requires 0 attribution and is being provided to the community under the "best- most free" license, which I believe would be BSD.
We don't want to impede anyone's future efforts.
Thanks,
Mike E.
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
As far as license, all should understand that whatever we do on our end requires 0 attribution and is being provided to the community under the "best- most free" license, which I believe would be BSD.
We don't want to impede anyone's future efforts.
Thanks,
Mike E.
Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 16:23 schrieb Robert Treat:The issue is that we do not own the copyright on the elephant photo image we use on the main website. We have a license to use it for the website, and generally we could probably reuse it in an ad banner, but we can't release it under a creative commons license (like our other graphics)On the matter of licenses: The web site of the logo-collecting project claims both that logos are under the BSD license and the Create Commons license. This should be cleared up. "Newer items" is not clear enough. None of the downloads I tried actually mentioned a specific license. Then, Create Commons is not a license but a set of licenses. You need to be clear which one you want. I would, however, strongly advise against the Create Commons licenses. First of all, it creates weird problems if someone wants to include the graphics in a program or documentation licenses under a BSD or (L)GPL license. And second, even if you look past that, neither the Open Source Initiative nor the Debian Free Software Guidelines seem to think that Create Commons licenses are acceptable open source licenses, so programs creates using those graphics will have serious problems. Is there a reason why the BSD license cannot continue to be used?
Mike Ellsworth wrote: > OK --- she will do what she can with this new elephant and if Andreas > can find the hi-res, she will update whatever new work she develops. Found my 1900x1300 grayscale PNG (600kb), elephant without background, where shall I mail it to? Regards, Andreas
On Friday 17 February 2006 11:07, Andreas Pflug wrote:
> Mike Ellsworth wrote:
> > OK --- she will do what she can with this new elephant and if Andreas
> > can find the hi-res, she will update whatever new work she develops.
>
> Found my 1900x1300 grayscale PNG (600kb), elephant without background,
> where shall I mail it to?
>
Send a copy to Mike and myself, I will put it up on the graphics project
page... BSD licensed if that's ok with you.
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Robert Treat
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On Friday 17 February 2006 10:50, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 16:23 schrieb Robert Treat: > > The issue is that we do not own the copyright on the elephant photo image > > we use on the main website. We have a license to use it for the website, > > and generally we could probably reuse it in an ad banner, but we can't > > release it under a creative commons license (like our other graphics) > > On the matter of licenses: > > The web site of the logo-collecting project claims both that logos are > under the BSD license and the Create Commons license. This should be > cleared up. "Newer items" is not clear enough. None of the downloads I > tried actually mentioned a specific license. I agree. I didn't write that copy but I am guessing it refers to the graphics donated by template monster, which were the newest at the time. > > Then, Create Commons is not a license but a set of licenses. You need to > be clear which one you want. > on the website we mention it specifically, its this one --> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/. > I would, however, strongly advise against the Create Commons licenses. > First of all, it creates weird problems if someone wants to include the > graphics in a program or documentation licenses under a BSD or (L)GPL > license. And second, even if you look past that, neither the Open Source > Initiative nor the Debian Free Software Guidelines seem to think that > Create Commons licenses are acceptable open source licenses, so programs > creates using those graphics will have serious problems. > > Is there a reason why the BSD license cannot continue to be used? I believe there was some concern by some of the graphics donors about re-using the graphics in commercial products. I guess I would just wonder if we should refuse graphics that are not BSD licensed? If we make clear as to which license applies to which graphics, I think we should be open to accepting more than just BSD. -- Robert Treat Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
> I believe there was some concern by some of the graphics donors about re-using > the graphics in commercial products. I guess I would just wonder if we > should refuse graphics that are not BSD licensed? If we make clear as to > which license applies to which graphics, I think we should be open to > accepting more than just BSD. > > In the essence of keeping things simple. They should just be BSD licensed. We are not in the business of keeping track of IP rights. The only way to be sure would be to require a specific license. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake P.S. I actually don't care if they are BSD but I think they should be "1" license. -- The PostgreSQL Company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.503.667.4564 PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedicated Hosting Co-Authors: PLphp, PLperl - http://www.commandprompt.com/
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> I believe there was some concern by some of the graphics donors about >> re-using the graphics in commercial products. I guess I would just >> wonder if we should refuse graphics that are not BSD licensed? If we >> make clear as to which license applies to which graphics, I think we >> should be open to accepting more than just BSD. >> >> > > In the essence of keeping things simple. They should just be BSD licensed. > We are not in the business of keeping track of IP rights. In order to keept things simple, I agree to supply my source picture under plain BSD, but frankly I would like it a little more restricted if possible. I took the picture and reworked it specifically for PostgreSQL and related use, any usage in pgsql banners etc is welcome without further notice. If it was used exceeding pgsql, I'd like to be mentioned as originator. I wonder if there's a template license for this applicable for all graphics, I wouldn't be surprised if other pic contributors felt the same as me. Regards, Andreas
Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 17:50 schrieb Andreas Pflug: > In order to keept things simple, I agree to supply my source picture > under plain BSD, but frankly I would like it a little more restricted if > possible. I took the picture and reworked it specifically for PostgreSQL > and related use, any usage in pgsql banners etc is welcome without > further notice. If it was used exceeding pgsql, I'd like to be mentioned > as originator. The BSD license does that, no? -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 17:50 schrieb Andreas Pflug: > >> In order to keept things simple, I agree to supply my source picture >> under plain BSD, but frankly I would like it a little more restricted if >> possible. I took the picture and reworked it specifically for PostgreSQL >> and related use, any usage in pgsql banners etc is welcome without >> further notice. If it was used exceeding pgsql, I'd like to be mentioned >> as originator. >> > > The BSD license does that, no? > AFAICS no. It requires mentioning the pgsql BSD license, not the original contributor. Regards, Andreas
On Friday 17 February 2006 08:50, Andreas Pflug wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> I believe there was some concern by some of the graphics donors about > >> re-using the graphics in commercial products. I guess I would just > >> wonder if we should refuse graphics that are not BSD licensed? If we > >> make clear as to which license applies to which graphics, I think we > >> should be open to accepting more than just BSD. > > > > In the essence of keeping things simple. They should just be BSD > > licensed. We are not in the business of keeping track of IP rights. > > In order to keept things simple, I agree to supply my source picture > under plain BSD, but frankly I would like it a little more restricted if > possible. I took the picture and reworked it specifically for PostgreSQL > and related use, any usage in pgsql banners etc is welcome without > further notice. If it was used exceeding pgsql, I'd like to be mentioned > as originator. I wonder if there's a template license for this > applicable for all graphics, I wouldn't be surprised if other pic > contributors felt the same as me. Check with Jan, RE the slony logo, he has much the same terms on it. > > Regards, > Andreas > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend -- Darcy Buskermolen Wavefire Technologies Corp. http://www.wavefire.com ph: 250.717.0200 fx: 250.763.1759
Andreas Pflug wrote: > AFAICS no. It requires mentioning the pgsql BSD license, not the > original contributor. ... provided that the *above copyright notice* and this paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies. You would just have to write yourself into the copyright notice. Of course you can also make up a similar regulation stating that the names of the contributors must not be deleted, but the standard phrasing should be fine I think. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Andreas Pflug wrote: > >> AFAICS no. It requires mentioning the pgsql BSD license, not the >> original contributor. >> > > ... provided that the *above copyright notice* and this > paragraph and the following two paragraphs appear in all copies. > > You would just have to write yourself into the copyright notice. > > Of course you can also make up a similar regulation stating that the > names of the contributors must not be deleted, but the standard > phrasing should be fine I think. > > Well it seems undesirable that any contributor will have its personal license statement. Regards, Andreas