Thread: Re: Local User Groups

Manoj, the wiki link here - https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual - gives an overview on how to kick things off. Please feel free to ask in case there are further questions. 

- Umair

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 PM manoj kumar MR <manoj.kumarmr@ucdconnect.ie> wrote:

HI, 

I will set up the meet-up page for the Irish developers, please add that to the local community groups under Ireland.

Thx 

Manoj 

On 27 Dec 2019, at 12:17, Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com> wrote:

Awesome!

What do you need from us ?

Dave Cramer

davec@postgresintl.com

www.postgresintl.com

On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 18:57, manoj kumar MR <manoj.kumarmr@ucdconnect.ie> wrote:

Hi,

I wish to create a local user group for Ireland.

Sincerely,

Manoj

Hi Umair,

Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.

Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on the main website?

I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally, think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for information like that on the main website.). 

All, 

what do you think?

Valeria

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:33 AM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:

Manoj, the wiki link here - https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual - gives an overview on how to kick things off. Please feel free to ask in case there are further questions. 

- Umair

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 PM manoj kumar MR <manoj.kumarmr@ucdconnect.ie> wrote:

HI, 

I will set up the meet-up page for the Irish developers, please add that to the local community groups under Ireland.

Thx 

Manoj 

On 27 Dec 2019, at 12:17, Dave Cramer <pg@fastcrypt.com> wrote:

Awesome!

What do you need from us ?

Dave Cramer

davec@postgresintl.com

www.postgresintl.com

On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 18:57, manoj kumar MR <manoj.kumarmr@ucdconnect.ie> wrote:

Hi,

I wish to create a local user group for Ireland.

Sincerely,

Manoj

Hi,

On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com
> <mailto:vk@dataegret.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Umair,
>
>     Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
>     Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
>     the main website?
>
>     I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
>     here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least
>     provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would
>     liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
>     think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
>     community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for
>     information like that on the main website.). 
>
>     All, 
>     what do you think?
>
>
> Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
> useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
> some vague notion of how to search for it. 
>
> +1 for the main page

I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.

That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
modify a Wiki page than the website.

Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.

Thanks,

Jonathan

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:

Hi,

On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com
> <mailto:vk@dataegret.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Umair,
>
>     Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
>     Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
>     the main website?
>
>     I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
>     here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least
>     provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would
>     like to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
>     think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
>     community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for
>     information like that on the main website.). 
>
>     All, 
>     what do you think?
>
>
> Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
> useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
> some vague notion of how to search for it. 
>
> +1 for the main page

I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.

That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
modify a Wiki page than the website.

Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.

I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would do the trick. 

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

Sounds good,

Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how. " to this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/

Quick question,

Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have access to edit there. Do you know who can help with that? 

thanks,

Valeria

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:54 AM Umair Shahid <umair.shahid@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 9:59 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:

Hi,

On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com
> <mailto:vk@dataegret.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Umair,
>
>     Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
>     Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
>     the main website?
>
>     I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
>     here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least
>     provide a link to the wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would
>     like to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
>     think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
>     community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for
>     information like that on the main website.). 
>
>     All, 
>     what do you think?
>
>
> Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
> useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
> some vague notion of how to search for it. 
>
> +1 for the main page

I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.

That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
modify a Wiki page than the website.

Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.

I think something as simple as "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how ... " on this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ would do the trick. 

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

On 1/7/20 6:34 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:29, Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com
> <mailto:vk@dataegret.com>> wrote:
>
>     Sounds good,
>
>     Let's put a link "Looking to start a new User Group? Here's how.
>     <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual> " to
>     this page: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/
>
>     Quick question,
>     Happy to look into phrasing on wiki, however, I don't actually have
>     access to edit there. Do you know who can help with that? 
>
>     thanks,
>     Valeria
>
> Joe or Magnus can help with that. I think there is a link on the wiki to
> specifically ask for it but hopefully one of them sees this


Which account name? It does not appear that the one associated with
Valeria's email address has ever logged in to the wiki.

Joe

--
Crunchy Data - http://crunchydata.com
PostgreSQL Support for Secure Enterprises
Consulting, Training, & Open Source Development

Hi,

On 1/6/20 8:12 AM, Dave Cramer wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 04:57, Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com
> <mailto:vk@dataegret.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Umair,
>
>     Thanks for sending this to Manoj, this is a super useful page.
>     Do you know if there is a particular reason why this info is not on
>     the main website?
>
>     I think it's super useful, so maybe we could put it
>     here: https://www.postgresql.org/community/user-groups/ or at least
>     provide a link to wiki (I guess, it depends whether or not we would
>     liek to keep using wiki for instructions like that - I personally,
>     think we shouldn't since only those who are already involved in the
>     community would be aware of wiki, others will most probably look for
>     information like that on the main website.). 
>
>     All, 
>     what do you think?
>
>
> Personally I find the wiki a terrible place to put anything. It is only
> useful if you know that what you are searching for exists and you have
> some vague notion of how to search for it. 
>
> +1 for the main page

I think the idea for this page being on the wiki was that it allowed for
changes to be made over time, e.g. if there was a new idea for how to do
something, a clarification, etc. It also has not been updated since 2015.

That said, I would not be opposed to adding something on the website for
how to start a user group, etc. but I think we need to ensure we have
some "final" language we've agreed to. It's (relatively) easier to
modify a Wiki page than the website.

Perhaps an interim step is to link to the wiki page from the website? We
can then work on what we would want the "user group operating manual"
page to say on the website, and once ready, commit that.

Thanks,

Jonathan

Sorry, missed this during travel and forgot to circle back.

Certainly +1 to moving it forward. I have a few content tweaks queued up
to do, next week likely better to push a bunch of changes through to the
website.

I skimmed through the notes -- they look way more organized. I think it
will be a very helpful resource!

Jonathan

On 3/10/20 8:06 PM, Justin Clift wrote:
> Seems like a worthwhile attempt, worthy of trying out and seeing how it
> goes
> if nothing else. :)
>
> + Justin
>
>
> On 2020-03-03 21:24, Valeria Kaplan wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think my email (below) fell between the cracks, but we still need to
>> address the issue of not having any information about setting up and
>> running meetups on postgres.org, so if there are no comments about the
>> updated
>> wiki page text
>> <https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/UserGroupOperatingManual>(see
>> my email below) I'd suggest that myself and Johnathan (if you have time,
>> Johnathan) finalise it and add it to the website to keep the ball
>> rolling.

Sorry, missed this during travel and forgot to circle back.

Certainly +1 to moving it forward. I have a few content tweaks queued up
to do, next week likely better to push a bunch of changes through to the
website.

I skimmed through the notes -- they look way more organized. I think it
will be a very helpful resource!

Jonathan

1. • Email the list pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org announcing that you would like to create a user group in your area and note if need funds setting up your meeting.com account.