Thread: will an honest French ISP please stand up

will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Tony Grant
Date:
OK "honest" and "French" in the same subject is a bit of provocation. We
all know they are weasels...

I just changed to 9telecom with the same result as Wanadoo when I mailed
Bruce.

Please tell me where I can find an ISP that has aDSL at under 30 EURO /
month and who isn't blocked by your spam filters.

Of course you are all blocking AOL, MSN, Prodigy and other US ISPs? No?
Why not? That is where all my spam comes from! You have a filter on all
domains ending in .cn?

If you are just blocking French ISPs je vous dis merde, aller vous
faire...

</soapbox>

Tony Grant
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Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Network Administrator
Date:
Trust me if I could block AOL, MSN, Yahoo and have of the asian IP block I
would.  Too many people here us IPs that allow their client to spam.  They all
should be able "black holed" IMHO.

Quoting Tony Grant <tony@tgds.net>:

> OK "honest" and "French" in the same subject is a bit of provocation. We
> all know they are weasels...
>
> I just changed to 9telecom with the same result as Wanadoo when I mailed
> Bruce.
>
> Please tell me where I can find an ISP that has aDSL at under 30 EURO /
> month and who isn't blocked by your spam filters.
>
> Of course you are all blocking AOL, MSN, Prodigy and other US ISPs? No?
> Why not? That is where all my spam comes from! You have a filter on all
> domains ending in .cn?
>
> If you are just blocking French ISPs je vous dis merde, aller vous
> faire...
>
> </soapbox>
>
> Tony Grant
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Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Tony Grant <tony@tgds.net> writes:
> I just changed to 9telecom with the same result as Wanadoo when I mailed
> Bruce.
> Please tell me where I can find an ISP that has aDSL at under 30 EURO /
> month and who isn't blocked by your spam filters.

I can't speak for what Bruce is filtering, but judging from this message
to the list, your European address is irrelevant.  The mail is actually
getting delivered from apps.tgds.net [212.100.226.141].  The blacklist
I use blocks that address because it belongs to rackspace.

            regards, tom lane


Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Network Administrator <netadmin@vcsn.com> writes:
> Trust me if I could block AOL, MSN, Yahoo and have of the asian IP block I
> would.

If you can use a DNS-style blacklist, see
http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php --- they do block large chunks
of the far east, which is why I use 'em ;-)

            regards, tom lane


Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Fernando Schapachnik
Date:
En un mensaje anterior, Tom Lane escribió:
> Network Administrator <netadmin@vcsn.com> writes:
> > Trust me if I could block AOL, MSN, Yahoo and have of the asian IP block I
> > would.
>
> If you can use a DNS-style blacklist, see
> http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php --- they do block large chunks
> of the far east, which is why I use 'em ;-)

I've been using ASK for a while. I don't receive spam anymore and don't block
people because of their ISP: http://www.paganini.net/ask/

Regards.

Fernando.


Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Network Administrator
Date:
Tom & Fernando,

Yea, adding back in the blackhole subscription is next on my list- after I add
authentication to sendmail (I was interrupted by CERT CA-2003-12 when I was
about to work on that).


Quoting Fernando Schapachnik <fernando@mecon.gov.ar>:

> En un mensaje anterior, Tom Lane escribió:
> > Network Administrator <netadmin@vcsn.com> writes:
> > > Trust me if I could block AOL, MSN, Yahoo and have of the asian IP block
> I
> > > would.
> >
> > If you can use a DNS-style blacklist, see
> > http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php --- they do block large chunks
> > of the far east, which is why I use 'em ;-)
>
> I've been using ASK for a while. I don't receive spam anymore and don't
> block
> people because of their ISP: http://www.paganini.net/ask/
>
> Regards.
>
> Fernando.
>


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Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:
> Tony Grant <tony@tgds.net> writes:
> > I just changed to 9telecom with the same result as Wanadoo when I mailed
> > Bruce.
> > Please tell me where I can find an ISP that has aDSL at under 30 EURO /
> > month and who isn't blocked by your spam filters.
>
> I can't speak for what Bruce is filtering, but judging from this message
> to the list, your European address is irrelevant.  The mail is actually
> getting delivered from apps.tgds.net [212.100.226.141].  The blacklist
> I use blocks that address because it belongs to rackspace.

All my spam blocking is documented at:

    http://candle.pha.pa.us/main/writings/spam/

You can even see my sendmail rules and script for maintaining my
blocking list at the bottom of the page.

Any network that sends more than 3 spams from different machines I
assume is just a spamhouse, or a poorly administered ISP, and that's how
wanadoo.fr got on my list.   (I have since changed the block to
abo.wanadoo.fr).  I don't see many other ways to handle this unless I
want to spend more time deleting spam or researching ISP's.

I recently was having some spam get around my blocks by using my
secondary MX.  Yesterday I got some sendmail rules to fix that problem.

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Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
pgman wrote:
> Any network that sends more than 3 spams from different machines I
> assume is just a spamhouse, or a poorly administered ISP, and that's how
> wanadoo.fr got on my list.   (I have since changed the block to
> abo.wanadoo.fr).  I don't see many other ways to handle this unless I
> want to spend more time deleting spam or researching ISP's.
>
> I recently was having some spam get around my blocks by using my
> secondary MX.  Yesterday I got some sendmail rules to fix that problem.

My MX test wasn't working earlier --- it is now, in case anyone grabbed that
sendmail macro file.

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Re: will an honest French ISP please stand up

From
"A. van Roggen"
Date:
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote on Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:48:22 -0400:
> I can't speak for what Bruce is filtering, but judging from this message
> to the list, your European address is irrelevant.  The mail is actually
> getting delivered from apps.tgds.net [212.100.226.141].  The blacklist
> I use blocks that address because it belongs to rackspace.

I have browsed this group for a while, and it seems to me that Tom's input is
almost half of the total -- certainly more than half of the useful posts.  No
wonder he had no time to look up the registration of 'apps.tgds.net'; he has
better things to do.

It turns out that that address is not registered under any of the 'net'
groups, (e.g. nsiregistry.net, networksolutions.com, internic.net, apnic.net,
etc.).
It still works, although it gave a different address (212.100.232.223) just
now after a ping.  People using such sites as e-mail address should be warned
that part of their mail may not go through.

Furthermore, to filter spam it is in my experience more successful by doing it
locally, rather than rely on the filters from an ISP (which often block whole
regions instead of individual sites).  The best filter is 'spamassassin' and
is easy to use, very easy if you know a bit about Perl.  Disadvantage of local
filtering is that the mail must have come through, and thus may be slow for
POT (plain old telephone) modems.

Keep up the good work on Postgres, which still lacks much good documentation,
especially in the interfaces, e.g. Class::DBI and the like.

A. van Roggen