Thread: Re: [GENERAL] Parallelizing PostgreSQL for Cluster
I'm CCng this back into the list, since this is probably something that is on other ppls minds as well... On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > One of the long-term projects that PostgreSQL, Inc is planning on working > > on is exactly this > > Just curious: Will it still be Open Source, or will it be PostgreSQL, > Inc only? > > I'm not on a religious quest here, just want to know, triggered by the > "Inc" in your answer. PostgreSQL, Inc was formed to provide Commercial Support to those requiring it...our long term goal is to provide funding for projects that are slightly more involved (or less glamorous) then volunteers are willing/able to provide. All code derived from such funding will *always* be rolled back into the PostgreSQL cvs repository for everyone to use. We are also looking at various trade journals to advertise, and, eventually, want to be able to be able to setup booths at various conferences...even do a BOF at Usenix... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
That should be clearer on the www.pgsql.com web page. I will add to the FAQ. > > I'm CCng this back into the list, since this is probably something that is > on other ppls minds as well... > > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > > > One of the long-term projects that PostgreSQL, Inc is planning on working > > > on is exactly this > > > > Just curious: Will it still be Open Source, or will it be PostgreSQL, > > Inc only? > > > > I'm not on a religious quest here, just want to know, triggered by the > > "Inc" in your answer. > > PostgreSQL, Inc was formed to provide Commercial Support to those > requiring it...our long term goal is to provide funding for projects that > are slightly more involved (or less glamorous) then volunteers are > willing/able to provide. All code derived from such funding will *always* > be rolled back into the PostgreSQL cvs repository for everyone to use. > > We are also looking at various trade journals to advertise, and, > eventually, want to be able to be able to setup booths at various > conferences...even do a BOF at Usenix... > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > > -- Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
> PostgreSQL, Inc was formed to provide Commercial Support to those > requiring it...our long term goal is to provide funding for projects that > are slightly more involved (or less glamorous) then volunteers are > willing/able to provide. All code derived from such funding will *always* > be rolled back into the PostgreSQL cvs repository for everyone to use. > It is a pity that postgresql is not released under the GPL, as that would ensure all future versions MUST be free, as compared to the current licence that (as far as I am aware, Im no lawyer) only requires that versions released free stay free.
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, M Simms wrote: // It is a pity that postgresql is not released under the GPL, as that // would ensure all future versions MUST be free, as compared to the // current licence that (as far as I am aware, Im no lawyer) only // requires that versions released free stay free. Please let us not get into this. There are those who think GPL is good, and there are those who think freedom shouldn't be forced upon people. Those of us who don't like the GPL are quite happy to find software not released under it. -- Principal Member Technical Staff, beyond.com The world is watching America, pub 1024/3CAE01D5 1994/11/03 Dustin Sallings <dustin@spy.net> | Key fingerprint = 87 02 57 08 02 D0 DA D6 C8 0F 3E 65 51 98 D8 BE L______________________________________________ and America is watching TV. __
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, M Simms wrote: > > PostgreSQL, Inc was formed to provide Commercial Support to those > > requiring it...our long term goal is to provide funding for projects that > > are slightly more involved (or less glamorous) then volunteers are > > willing/able to provide. All code derived from such funding will *always* > > be rolled back into the PostgreSQL cvs repository for everyone to use. > > > > It is a pity that postgresql is not released under the GPL, as that would > ensure all future versions MUST be free, as compared to the current > licence that (as far as I am aware, Im no lawyer) only requires that > versions released free stay free. Ya, its such a pity *NAWT* There is a reason why ppl like Netscape (Mozilla?), SUN, SGI, etc are all creating their own "open source" license and not fallign under GPL... GPL is as far left as BSD is right. There is *nobody* that is going to convince me that the GPL is anything but "the Devil's license"...unless everyone of the PostgreSQL developers falls behind someone trying to "commercialize" PostgreSQL, the best they will get is the code...they won't get the knowledge base to go along with it. Bruce, Vadim, Thomas and I have been with this since day one, which has been almost 4 years now. If you watch -hackers, you'll see any one of us popping up periodically admitting to not knowing areas of the code that others do. I pity anyone diving in without a very very large learning curve... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
Point taken...I've re-worded/expanded it slightly into a Mission Statement (http://www.pgsql.com/mission-statement.html)...I"m not an Business major, so expect that it will get re-worded, but the general "gist" of it will remain pretty much the same... On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote: > That should be clearer on the www.pgsql.com web page. I will add to the > FAQ. > > > > > I'm CCng this back into the list, since this is probably something that is > > on other ppls minds as well... > > > > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Kaare Rasmussen wrote: > > > > > > One of the long-term projects that PostgreSQL, Inc is planning on working > > > > on is exactly this > > > > > > Just curious: Will it still be Open Source, or will it be PostgreSQL, > > > Inc only? > > > > > > I'm not on a religious quest here, just want to know, triggered by the > > > "Inc" in your answer. > > > > PostgreSQL, Inc was formed to provide Commercial Support to those > > requiring it...our long term goal is to provide funding for projects that > > are slightly more involved (or less glamorous) then volunteers are > > willing/able to provide. All code derived from such funding will *always* > > be rolled back into the PostgreSQL cvs repository for everyone to use. > > > > We are also looking at various trade journals to advertise, and, > > eventually, want to be able to be able to setup booths at various > > conferences...even do a BOF at Usenix... > > > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org > > > > > > > > > -- > Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle > maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 > + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue > + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
> It is a pity that postgresql is not released under the GPL, as that would > ensure all future versions MUST be free, as compared to the current > licence that (as far as I am aware, Im no lawyer) only requires that > versions released free stay free. I had hoped to stay away from religious debates. Postgresql is free and that's good. Let's keep it at that.