Thread: transition SRA PostgreSQL CE -> LPI-JP OSS-DB lost English version

transition SRA PostgreSQL CE -> LPI-JP OSS-DB lost English version

From
Chris Mair
Date:
Hi,

some of you may know the SRA PostgreSQL CE certification:
http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/

In recent news this certification was discontinued to the
benefit of the new OSS-DB delivered through LPI-Japan:
http://www.oss-db.jp/

While the SRA one (Silver at least) was available through
Pearson-VUE in English the new OSS-DB is not (yet).

This is creating some problem here, because for some type
of courses I'm involved with as a trainer, I'm in need of
a readily available, affordable certification exam for
PostgreSQL in English (*). The SRA Silver CE exactly matched
what I needed.

So the question is: what can I do? Does anybody know
whether OSS-DB will be available in English some time
soon? Does anybody know about another exam (available
through Pearson-VUE or Prometric) that tests PostgreSQL?

I'm aware of http://www.postgresqlcertification.org/
but that seems to be sort of abandoned.

Bye,
Chris.

(*) or Italian, for that matter, but that's even more unlikely...


Re: transition SRA PostgreSQL CE -> LPI-JP OSS-DB lost English version

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
> So the question is: what can I do? Does anybody know
> whether OSS-DB will be available in English some time
> soon? Does anybody know about another exam (available
> through Pearson-VUE or Prometric) that tests PostgreSQL?

I thought EnterpriseDB had a certification?

Also, if the certification is "OSS-DB", is it actually PostgreSQL-only?

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com

Re: transition SRA PostgreSQL CE -> LPI-JP OSS-DB lost English version

From
Chris Mair
Date:
>
>> So the question is: what can I do? Does anybody know
>> whether OSS-DB will be available in English some time
>> soon? Does anybody know about another exam (available
>> through Pearson-VUE or Prometric) that tests PostgreSQL?
>
> I thought EnterpriseDB had a certification?

Ok,
like this one:
http://enterprisedb.com/products-services-training/certification/postgresql-associate-certification
I'm going to look into it. Thanks.


>
> Also, if the certification is "OSS-DB", is it actually PostgreSQL-
> only?
>

I think so:

http://www.oss-db.jp/measures/sample.shtml

These appear to be the same questions as were
in the SRA PostgreSQL CE samples.

(Im using Chrome's translate here).

Bye,
Chris.







Re: transition SRA PostgreSQL CE -> LPI-JP OSS-DB lost English version

From
Greg Smith
Date:
On 06/09/2011 04:43 PM, Chris Mair wrote:
> I'm aware of http://www.postgresqlcertification.org/
> but that seems to be sort of abandoned.

That's not quite the right word.  It's moving very slowly, but the last
burst of public activity was in August, and a second round of discussion
around it happened in person the last US conference in March.  I've
talked a good percentage of the people doing training in the US, and
everyone seems to agree a community-driven certification program like
this was driving toward is worthwhile--and the statistics collected by
that project point in the direction toward what it would have to look like.

At this point, though, the main hurdle seems to be how you go about
creating the "question bank" needed to run a certification.  The usual
sort of transparency open-source projects develop via is quite
incompatible with collaborating on that sort of thing.  I keep meaning
to find another certification program for a FLOSS program to see if
there's any useful ideas to borrow from them.  I've toyed with becoming
CompTIA: Linux+ or a Red Hat Certified Engineer just to explore their
process.

> (*) or Italian, for that matter, but that's even more unlikely...

If there is a completed community-driven PostgreSQL certification exam
finished in English, I guarantee we'll offer it in Italian and French as
well.  But that doesn't help you now.

--
Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg@2ndQuadrant.com   Baltimore, MD
PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support  www.2ndQuadrant.us



"Chris Mair" <chris@1006.org> wrote in message
news:A5BD2933-2EA2-4D85-900A-71B347681CDC@1006.org...
>> Also, if the certification is "OSS-DB", is it actually PostgreSQL- only?
>>
>
> I think so:

According to the following interview article:

http://itpro.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/NEWS/20110608/361171/

The board chairperson of LPI-Japan said that the exam is currently
PostgreSQL-only and a database under control of a particular vendor (MySQL
under Oracle) cannot be called OSS DB.

Regards MauMau



Hi,

(follow-up on a post from 2011).

Good news!

Today I learned that LPI-Japan has made available an
English version of the exam about a month ago:

http://www.oss-db.jp/outline/eng_index.shtml

Bye,
Chris.


On 6/9/11 22:43 , Chris Mair wrote:

> Hi,
>
> some of you may know the SRA PostgreSQL CE certification:
> http://www.sraoss.co.jp/postgresql-ce/
>
> In recent news this certification was discontinued to the
> benefit of the new OSS-DB delivered through LPI-Japan:
> http://www.oss-db.jp/
>
> While the SRA one (Silver at least) was available through
> Pearson-VUE in English the new OSS-DB is not (yet).
>
> This is creating some problem here, because for some type
> of courses I'm involved with as a trainer, I'm in need of
> a readily available, affordable certification exam for
> PostgreSQL in English (*). The SRA Silver CE exactly matched
> what I needed.
>
> So the question is: what can I do? Does anybody know
> whether OSS-DB will be available in English some time
> soon? Does anybody know about another exam (available
> through Pearson-VUE or Prometric) that tests PostgreSQL?
>
> I'm aware of http://www.postgresqlcertification.org/
> but that seems to be sort of abandoned.
>
> Bye,
> Chris.
>
> (*) or Italian, for that matter, but that's even more unlikely...




On 05/01/2013 01:02 AM, Chris Mair wrote:
> Hi,
>
> (follow-up on a post from 2011).
>
> Good news!
>
> Today I learned that LPI-Japan has made available an
> English version of the exam about a month ago:
>
> http://www.oss-db.jp/outline/eng_index.shtml

Hmmm.  Based on the sample questions, there's some issues.

For example, I can't personally select a "right" answer for this question:

http://www.oss-db.jp/measures/eng_sample_silver_knowledge.shtml

I suspect that part of the problem is wording changes introduced by
translation.

Are you working with anyone at LPI on auditing the questions?

--
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
http://pgexperts.com


>> Hi,
>>
>> (follow-up on a post from 2011).
>>
>> Good news!
>>
>> Today I learned that LPI-Japan has made available an
>> English version of the exam about a month ago:
>>
>> http://www.oss-db.jp/outline/eng_index.shtml
>
> Hmmm.  Based on the sample questions, there's some issues.
>
> For example, I can't personally select a "right" answer for this question:
>
> http://www.oss-db.jp/measures/eng_sample_silver_knowledge.shtml
>
> I suspect that part of the problem is wording changes introduced by
> translation.
>
> Are you working with anyone at LPI on auditing the questions?
>

Uhmm..

No, I'm not involved with this. Somebody from LPI-Japan mailed me
because he found my old mail from 2011 and mailed me and not the
list...

Appearantly he's trying to get in touch with the english speaking
comunity because he mailed me again.

I'm going to send him a mail with you in cc now...

Bye,
Chris.






Hi,

2013/05/03 2:46, Chris Mair wrote:
>>> Today I learned that LPI-Japan has made available an
>>> English version of the exam about a month ago:
>>>
>>> http://www.oss-db.jp/outline/eng_index.shtml
>>
>> Hmmm.  Based on the sample questions, there's some issues.
>>
>> For example, I can't personally select a "right" answer for this
>> question:
>>
>> http://www.oss-db.jp/measures/eng_sample_silver_knowledge.shtml
>>
>> I suspect that part of the problem is wording changes introduced by
>> translation.
>>
>> Are you working with anyone at LPI on auditing the questions?
>>
>
> Uhmm..
>
> No, I'm not involved with this. Somebody from LPI-Japan mailed me
> because he found my old mail from 2011 and mailed me and not the
> list...
>
> Appearantly he's trying to get in touch with the english speaking
> comunity because he mailed me again.
>
> I'm going to send him a mail with you in cc now...

What's the issue here? I can forward your feedback to guys who are in
charge of this certification (and sample questions).

I often give tech lecture for engineers who are interested in studying
PostgreSQL and taking the OSS-DB Gold Exam/Cert (advanced one).


http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oss-db.jp%2Fnews%2Fevent%2F2013%2F01%2Fevent_20130119_01.shtml&act=url

If you have any question and/or feedback, I'm happy to forward it
to improve this exam.

BTW, I'd like to share with you that this exam is based on
PostgreSQL 9.0 now, and I don't know when it will be updated.

Regards,
--
NAGAYASU Satoshi <satoshi.nagayasu@gmail.com>


2013/05/03 3:20, Satoshi Nagayasu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2013/05/03 2:46, Chris Mair wrote:
>>>> Today I learned that LPI-Japan has made available an
>>>> English version of the exam about a month ago:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oss-db.jp/outline/eng_index.shtml
>>>
>>> Hmmm.  Based on the sample questions, there's some issues.
>>>
>>> For example, I can't personally select a "right" answer for this
>>> question:
>>>
>>> http://www.oss-db.jp/measures/eng_sample_silver_knowledge.shtml
>>>
>>> I suspect that part of the problem is wording changes introduced by
>>> translation.
>>>
>>> Are you working with anyone at LPI on auditing the questions?
>>>
>>
>> Uhmm..
>>
>> No, I'm not involved with this. Somebody from LPI-Japan mailed me
>> because he found my old mail from 2011 and mailed me and not the
>> list...
>>
>> Appearantly he's trying to get in touch with the english speaking
>> comunity because he mailed me again.
>>
>> I'm going to send him a mail with you in cc now...
>
> What's the issue here? I can forward your feedback to guys who are in
> charge of this certification (and sample questions).
>
> I often give tech lecture for engineers who are interested in studying
> PostgreSQL and taking the OSS-DB Gold Exam/Cert (advanced one).
>
>
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oss-db.jp%2Fnews%2Fevent%2F2013%2F01%2Fevent_20130119_01.shtml&act=url
>
>
> If you have any question and/or feedback, I'm happy to forward it
> to improve this exam.
>
> BTW, I'd like to share with you that this exam is based on
> PostgreSQL 9.0 now, and I don't know when it will be updated.

One more thing I need to let you know.

The lecturer for the OSS-DB Silver Exam seminar is Mr.Shigeru Hanada,
one of the most popular Japanese developers in the PostgreSQL community.
(all of you might know his name. :)


http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oss-db.jp%2Fnews%2Fevent%2F2013%2F04%2Fevent_20130421_01.shtml&act=url

So, I guess he is also able to forward your feedback to LPI-Japan.

Regards,
--
NAGAYASU Satoshi <satoshi.nagayasu@gmail.com>




Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> a écrit :

>On 05/01/2013 01:02 AM, Chris Mair wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> (follow-up on a post from 2011).
>>
>> Good news!
>>
>> Today I learned that LPI-Japan has made available an
>> English version of the exam about a month ago:
>>
>> http://www.oss-db.jp/outline/eng_index.shtml
>
>Hmmm.  Based on the sample questions, there's some issues.
>
>For example, I can't personally select a "right" answer for this
>question:
>
>http://www.oss-db.jp/measures/eng_sample_silver_knowledge.shtml

This question actually requires two answers and as far as I understand it, I can find them...

Anyway, this does not really change the legitimacy of your next question.

>I suspect that part of the problem is wording changes introduced by
>translation.
>
>Are you working with anyone at LPI on auditing the questions?

--
Jehan-Guillaume (ioguix) de Rorthais