Thread: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Richard Huxton
Date:
Thanks to the kind offices of uklinux.net we have the offer of a stall
at the .Org village again.

Both Oliver and myself are planning to attend, but a third person might
well be useful. Especially if you have experience of the Java/Windows
side of PG.

Preparation is going to be tricky because we are both on holiday in the
lead-up to the event, so I'm trying to get things moving asap.

Further notes in a separate thread.
--
   Richard Huxton
   Archonet Ltd

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Paul Thomas
Date:
On 08/09/2004 16:18 Richard Huxton wrote:
> Thanks to the kind offices of uklinux.net we have the offer of a stall at
> the .Org village again.
>
> Both Oliver and myself are planning to attend, but a third person might
> well be useful. Especially if you have experience of the Java/Windows
> side of PG.
>
> Preparation is going to be tricky because we are both on holiday in the
> lead-up to the event, so I'm trying to get things moving asap.

Richard,

I could probably help out on one of the days. Plenty of experience of using
Java with PG. --
Paul Thomas
+------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+
| Thomas Micro Systems Limited | Software Solutions for Business           |
| Computer Consultants         | http://www.thomas-micro-systems-ltd.co.uk |
+------------------------------+-------------------------------------------+

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
"Simon Riggs"
Date:
> Richard Huxton
>
> Thanks to the kind offices of uklinux.net we have the offer of a stall
> at the .Org village again.
>
> Both Oliver and myself are planning to attend, but a third person might
> well be useful. Especially if you have experience of the Java/Windows
> side of PG.
>
> Preparation is going to be tricky because we are both on holiday in the
> lead-up to the event, so I'm trying to get things moving asap.
>
> Further notes in a separate thread.

Richard,

I'd like to join in, if I may. At least one, possibly both days - I was just
going to  put out a call this evening, actually.

Press release seems fine, apart from the dropping of my own companies name
from the list of majors contributors (not down to you Richard, picked up on
another thread). For the UK list at least, I'd like to see it included (for
this release), unless we hear differently.

Chat before the event? How/Where?

Best Regards, Simon Riggs, 2nd Quadrant


Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Richard Huxton
Date:
Dave Page wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I will be there on the 7th with a colleague, though as my employer is
> paying I will have to mingle a little, but if there is anything I might
> be useful for, let me know (I don't do Java but do have a little
> experience with the Windows port).

Smashing. Sounds like there'll be plenty of us to go round this year.

--
   Richard Huxton
   Archonet Ltd

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Huxton [mailto:dev@archonet.com]
> Sent: 10 September 2004 12:56
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Bruce Momjian
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th
>
> Dave Page wrote:
> >
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > I will be there on the 7th with a colleague, though as my
> employer is
> > paying I will have to mingle a little, but if there is anything I
> > might be useful for, let me know (I don't do Java but do
> have a little
> > experience with the Windows port).
>
> Smashing. Sounds like there'll be plenty of us to go round this year.

:-)

Who else is going (I'm not on -advocacy)? I saw the posts from Simon &
Paul in the archives, and Bruce said he might make it when we chatted
yesterday...

Regards, Dave.

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgman@candle.pha.pa.us [mailto:pgman@candle.pha.pa.us]
> On Behalf Of Richard Huxton
> Sent: 08 September 2004 16:18
> To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
> Subject: [pgsql-advocacy] LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th
>
> Thanks to the kind offices of uklinux.net we have the offer
> of a stall at the .Org village again.
>
> Both Oliver and myself are planning to attend, but a third
> person might well be useful. Especially if you have
> experience of the Java/Windows side of PG.
>
> Preparation is going to be tricky because we are both on
> holiday in the lead-up to the event, so I'm trying to get
> things moving asap.
>

Hi Richard,

I will be there on the 7th with a colleague, though as my employer is
paying I will have to mingle a little, but if there is anything I might
be useful for, let me know (I don't do Java but do have a little
experience with the Windows port).

Regards, Dave

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Guys,

Can one of you send me a shipping address?   I'd like to send you some
T-shirts and ask Heather for some CDs, but need to get moving if you're to
get them on time.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Oliver Elphick
Date:
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:59, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Can one of you send me a shipping address?   I'd like to send you some
> T-shirts and ask Heather for some CDs, but need to get moving if you're to
> get them on time.

Richard and I are both likely to be on holiday when they arrive.  Is
anyone else able to receive them and likely to have transport to bring
them?  I wasn't planning to bring a car into London this time.

Josh, *if* you get no other response, send them to me:

        Watergate House
        112 Watergate Road
        Newport
        Isle of Wight
        PO30 1XP
        United Kingdom

        Phone for delivery: 01983 827830

--
Oliver Elphick                                          olly@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
GPG: 1024D/A54310EA  92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E  1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA
                 ========================================
     "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are
      your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens
      are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than
      your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
                               Isaiah 55:8,9


Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
"Simon Riggs"
Date:
If it makes sense, you can send them to my offices at:

2nd Quadrant Ltd
Bicester Innovation Centre
Telford Road
Bicester
Oxfordshire
OX26 4LD

...there's always somebody there to receive stuff. HM Government doesn't put
Duty on T-shirts does she?

I can drive in - I'll take a T-shirt in lieu of the Congestion Charge!

I'm only there on the 6th Oct though now.

...not sure if that means I'll miss some of you. Hope not.

Best Regards, Simon Riggs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of Oliver Elphick
> Sent: 13 September 2004 20:28
> To: Josh Berkus
> Cc: Dave Page; Richard Huxton; Simon Riggs;
> pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org; Bruce Momjian
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th
>
>
> On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:59, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > Can one of you send me a shipping address?   I'd like to send you some
> > T-shirts and ask Heather for some CDs, but need to get moving
> if you're to
> > get them on time.
>
> Richard and I are both likely to be on holiday when they arrive.  Is
> anyone else able to receive them and likely to have transport to bring
> them?  I wasn't planning to bring a car into London this time.
>
> Josh, *if* you get no other response, send them to me:
>
>         Watergate House
>         112 Watergate Road
>         Newport
>         Isle of Wight
>         PO30 1XP
>         United Kingdom
>
>         Phone for delivery: 01983 827830
>
> --
> Oliver Elphick                                          olly@lfix.co.uk
> Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
> GPG: 1024D/A54310EA  92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E  1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA
>                  ========================================
>      "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are
>       your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens
>       are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than
>       your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>                                Isaiah 55:8,9
>
>
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Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Oliver Elphick
Date:
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 23:21, Simon Riggs wrote:
> If it makes sense, you can send them to my offices at:
>
> 2nd Quadrant Ltd
> Bicester Innovation Centre
> Telford Road
> Bicester
> Oxfordshire
> OX26 4LD
>
> ...there's always somebody there to receive stuff. HM Government doesn't put
> Duty on T-shirts does she?

There's a point - the CDs can be put down as promotional materials of no
value, but I don't know about the T-shirts.  Duty would be around 4% and
then there's VAT on the whole lot, including shipping cost.  Has anyone
imported anything similar into UK before?

> I can drive in - I'll take a T-shirt in lieu of the Congestion Charge!

Olympia is outside the zone, unless Ken has managed to extend it since
May.

--
Oliver Elphick                                          olly@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
GPG: 1024D/A54310EA  92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E  1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA
                 ========================================
     "But without faith it is impossible to please him; for
      he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and
      that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek
      him."        Hebrews 11:6


Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
"Simon Riggs"
Date:
>Oliver Elphick:
> On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 23:21, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > If it makes sense, you can send them to my offices at:
> >
> > 2nd Quadrant Ltd
> > Bicester Innovation Centre
> > Telford Road
> > Bicester
> > Oxfordshire
> > OX26 4LD
> >
> > ...there's always somebody there to receive stuff. HM
> Government doesn't put
> > Duty on T-shirts does she?
>
> There's a point - the CDs can be put down as promotional materials of no
> value, but I don't know about the T-shirts.  Duty would be around 4% and
> then there's VAT on the whole lot, including shipping cost.  Has anyone
> imported anything similar into UK before?
>

OK. Make sure they're addressed to my company. I'll pay the VAT and offset
it.

Best Regards, Simon Riggs


Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Oliver Elphick wrote:
> There's a point - the CDs can be put down as promotional materials of
> no value, but I don't know about the T-shirts.  Duty would be around
> 4% and then there's VAT on the whole lot, including shipping cost.

Michael Meskes told me that if you declare it as a gift, you should get
away with it.  This is, of course, under the theory of a uniform EU
customs code.

--
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/


Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
People,

> > > There's a point - the CDs can be put down as promotional materials of
> > > no value, but I don't know about the T-shirts.  Duty would be around
> > > 4% and then there's VAT on the whole lot, including shipping cost.
> >
> > Michael Meskes told me that if you declare it as a gift, you should get
> > away with it.  This is, of course, under the theory of a uniform EU
> > customs code.

Well, the T-shirts are rewards for the volunteers and will not be sold.  The
CDs will be given away for free.   So why would we be charged VAT?

--
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Oliver Elphick
Date:
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 18:20, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Well, the T-shirts are rewards for the volunteers and will not be sold.  The
> CDs will be given away for free.   So why would we be charged VAT?

I suppose it's a matter of what is put on the customs form.

--
Oliver Elphick                                          olly@lfix.co.uk
Isle of Wight                              http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver
GPG: 1024D/A54310EA  92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E  1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA
                 ========================================
     "But without faith it is impossible to please him; for
      he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and
      that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek
      him."        Hebrews 11:6


Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Josh Berkus wrote:
> Well, the T-shirts are rewards for the volunteers and will not be
> sold.  The CDs will be given away for free.   So why would we be
> charged VAT?

It doesn't matter what someone plans to do with the items, it matters if
they have commercial value when they receive them.  That's why you
probably should declare the items as a donation or gift at the moment
when you give them away.

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
SImon,

> I've got a box of PostgreSQL LIVE CDs, but no T-shirts. Has anybody else
> received those? Not impounded by customs, I hope :)

Crap.   I paid $65 to get you the t-shirts on time.    Peter got his t-shirts,
sent regular mail, already.   Will check with Fedex.

--
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th

From
"Simon Riggs"
Date:
I'll check the parcel receipt records. It's probably been signed for here
and then "filed".

...there's still time to get them to the show....

At least I know you've sent them, so it shouldn't be too hard!

Time I sent you that $50 also....

Best Regards

Simon Riggs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org
> [mailto:pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of Josh Berkus
> Sent: 04 October 2004 18:15
> To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] LinuxWorld, London Olympia Oct 6th/7th
>
>
> SImon,
>
> > I've got a box of PostgreSQL LIVE CDs, but no T-shirts. Has anybody else
> > received those? Not impounded by customs, I hope :)
>
> Crap.   I paid $65 to get you the t-shirts on time.    Peter got
> his t-shirts,
> sent regular mail, already.   Will check with Fedex.
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>
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