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Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Giovanni Biscontini
Date:
Hello everyone,
 we're looking for a Open Source alternative to Rhel for our VM server dedicated to Postgresql (14->15) installations. We're testing Alma, Rocky, and Oracle distributions as they're compatible with Rhel package systems. 
Can you share your experience on a similar choice? 
Thanks in advance and best regards, Giovanni 

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 Dott. Giovanni Biscontini

 [Divisone Software]

 

  WEB: https://www.es2000.it

 

 

 

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Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Surya Widyanto
Date:
Hi,

From 2019, I've been using AlmaLinux from version 8.4 up to now version 8.7. This January, I've been trying to upgrade PostgreSQL from v14.6 to v15.1.
When I install PostgreSQL v14.6 along side with v15.1 in the same server, it run without trouble at all, but because I'm using the PostGIS extension, there is one package ogr_fdw_14 than cannot be along side with the ogr_fdw_15 version, specifically on this file: 
Error: Transaction test error:

file /usr/lib/.build-id/a0/a43182caa55ed9d3562e2d9b74a1dda150e2c4 from 
install of ogr_fdw_15-1.1.3-1.rhel8.x86_64 conflicts with file from 
package ogr_fdw_14-1.1.3-1.rhel8.x86_64
because of this problem, I'm currently stuck on upgrading the PostgreSQL to v15.1. Last week, on my development server I can install the ogr_fdw_15 on by using manual extraction of the RPM package to each individual directory with exception the conflicted file, and the extension is successfully installed and detected on the PostgreSQL v15.1.  Next weekend, I planned on upgrading the production server to v15.1 using the same method, unless anyone here can show me other method than manually extracting the RPM package.

May be someone here on this mailing-list have access to the package manager that build the ogr_fdw_14 and ogr_fdw_15 package, and release the package update to resolve the conflicted file, I'll be waiting for the package release update before I rollout the update to my production server.

Best Regards,
Surya Widyanto


On 31-01-2023 15:02, Giovanni Biscontini wrote:
Hello everyone,
 we're looking for a Open Source alternative to Rhel for our VM server dedicated to Postgresql (14->15) installations. We're testing Alma, Rocky, and Oracle distributions as they're compatible with Rhel package systems. 
Can you share your experience on a similar choice? 
Thanks in advance and best regards, Giovanni 

--

 

 

Cordiali Saluti - Best Regards

 


 

 Dott. Giovanni Biscontini

 [Divisone Software]

 

  WEB: https://www.es2000.it

 

 

 

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Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
hubert depesz lubaczewski
Date:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 09:02:53AM +0100, Giovanni Biscontini wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>  we're looking for a Open Source alternative to Rhel for our VM server
> dedicated to Postgresql (14->15) installations. We're testing Alma, Rocky,
> and Oracle distributions as they're compatible with Rhel package systems.
> Can you share your experience on a similar choice?
> Thanks in advance and best regards, Giovanni

It will be os that you know.

I, for one, love all things debian based, so I tend to use debian or
ubuntu. It helps that the Pg apt repo is absolutely AMAZING.

depesz

Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
hubert depesz lubaczewski
Date:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 01:18:08PM +0100, Marc Millas wrote:
> Did you check postgis debian repo? ??

Not sure why:
1. you ask me that
2. you ask me that off list

but no, i haven't.

depesz

Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Marc Millas
Date:
Sorry for inappropriate "reply".

if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT possible to choose a postgis version.
its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time. 
(you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1 or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have been unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all cross possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities according to postgis matrix)

so...


Marc MILLAS
Senior Architect
+33607850334



On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 1:23 PM hubert depesz lubaczewski <depesz@depesz.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 01:18:08PM +0100, Marc Millas wrote:
> Did you check postgis debian repo? ??

Not sure why:
1. you ask me that
2. you ask me that off list

but no, i haven't.

depesz

Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
hubert depesz lubaczewski
Date:
On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 02:09:40PM +0100, Marc Millas wrote:
> if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT possible
> to choose a postgis version.
> its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are
> inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time.
> (you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1 or...
> its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
> 2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have been
> unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
> when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all cross
> possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities
> according to postgis matrix)

While this is definitely a factor that has to be considered, OP never
said anything about postgis. So, while it is perfectly possible that
they do, and they have to stick to some version that is not available in
debian/ubuntu, it kinda seems like a jump to assume that.

Best regards,

depesz

Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:
On 1/31/23 05:09, Marc Millas wrote:
> Sorry for inappropriate "reply".
> 
> if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT 
> possible to choose a postgis version.

Are you talking about the repo hosted by Debian or the Postgres 
community repo's here:

https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/

> its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are 
> inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time.
> (you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1 
> or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
> 2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have been 
> unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
> when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all cross 
> possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities 
> according to postgis matrix)
> 
> so...
> 
> 
> Marc MILLAS
> Senior Architect
> +33607850334
> www.mokadb.com <http://www.mokadb.com>
> 
> 

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Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Tony Shelver
Date:

Copied to the list
On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 08:18, Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 08:04, Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 15:10, Marc Millas <marc.millas@mokadb.com> wrote:
Sorry for inappropriate "reply".

if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT possible to choose a postgis version.
its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time. 
(you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1 or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have been unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all cross possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities according to postgis matrix)


Maybe I am not understanding this, but have you checked the UbuntuGIS source?  I know not pure Debian, but...

Sent before complete:

UbuntuGIS stable shows PostGIS 2.4 and 2.5 available, as well as 3.1 and 3.2  : https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
Also note that UbuntuGIS is based off the DebianGIS project: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis

We run both Ubuntu and Centos servers.  The change to Centos licensing has led us to support it only for one specific application that is embedded in Centos that we are trying to end-of-life ASAP.  At least Ubuntu server has a 5 year support window, and Ubuntu has now announced a limited 'free' Pro option for smaller businesses that provides a 10 year window.


Regards


Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Brad White
Date:
On 1/31/2023 6:23 AM, hubert depesz lubaczewski wrote:
Not sure why:

2. you ask me that off list
In a lot of email clients, it is very easy to accidentally reply to the author instead of the list without realizing it.

Hope that helps,
Brad.
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Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Brent Wood
Date:
I would suggest any major Ubuntu based distro, I have a personal preference for Mint.

I'd also suggest you set up the official Postgres repo, rather than using a distro repo, so your installs come directly from there.

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt


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From: Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2023 19:19
To: pgsql-general <pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql
 

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On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 08:18, Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 08:04, Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 15:10, Marc Millas <marc.millas@mokadb.com> wrote:
Sorry for inappropriate "reply".

if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT possible to choose a postgis version.
its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time. 
(you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1 or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have been unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all cross possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities according to postgis matrix)


Maybe I am not understanding this, but have you checked the UbuntuGIS source?  I know not pure Debian, but...

Sent before complete:

UbuntuGIS stable shows PostGIS 2.4 and 2.5 available, as well as 3.1 and 3.2  : https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
Also note that UbuntuGIS is based off the DebianGIS project: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis

We run both Ubuntu and Centos servers.  The change to Centos licensing has led us to support it only for one specific application that is embedded in Centos that we are trying to end-of-life ASAP.  At least Ubuntu server has a 5 year support window, and Ubuntu has now announced a limited 'free' Pro option for smaller businesses that provides a 10 year window.


Regards


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Programme Leader - Environmental Information Delivery
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Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Wim Bertels
Date:
Hello Giovanni,

it depends,
do you know a truly open source os without proprietary blobs for firmware or device drivers?

Debian used to try to make a clear separation in this with 'main' being the default section when installing,
unfortunately this practically no longer applies to proprietary firmware if i understand it correctly, unless you check yourself:
vs before:
which i guess is still the case?, but now it gets loaded/installed by default
(easy functionality over open source)

I would choose a distro with LTS (long term support),
as the last post mentions Ubuntu and Mint,
this would only apply to Ubuntu LTS (or up in the family tree Debian LTS)

i have had good experiences with the link from Brent,
but i imagine other serious LTS distros should work well as well

hth,
Wim

Brent Wood schreef op wo 01-02-2023 om 06:45 [+0000]:
I would suggest any major Ubuntu based distro, I have a personal preference for Mint.

I'd also suggest you set up the official Postgres repo, rather than using a distro repo, so your installs come directly from there.





Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Marc Millas
Date:
Hello,
What about postgis :
3.0,
3.3,
3.4
??

Le mer. 1 févr. 2023 à 07:20, Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com> a écrit :

Copied to the list
On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 08:18, Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 08:04, Tony Shelver <tshelver@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 at 15:10, Marc Millas <marc.millas@mokadb.com> wrote:
Sorry for inappropriate "reply".

if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT possible to choose a postgis version.
its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time. 
(you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1 or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have been unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all cross possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities according to postgis matrix)


Maybe I am not understanding this, but have you checked the UbuntuGIS source?  I know not pure Debian, but...

Sent before complete:

UbuntuGIS stable shows PostGIS 2.4 and 2.5 available, as well as 3.1 and 3.2  : https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugis/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
Also note that UbuntuGIS is based off the DebianGIS project: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis

We run both Ubuntu and Centos servers.  The change to Centos licensing has led us to support it only for one specific application that is embedded in Centos that we are trying to end-of-life ASAP.  At least Ubuntu server has a 5 year support window, and Ubuntu has now announced a limited 'free' Pro option for smaller businesses that provides a 10 year window.


Regards


Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Marc Millas
Date:
If I remember  well, I did try all repo I ever heard off, and basic Google search
Till I ask someone thru a postgis mailing list.
If you find something, like how to install a postgres 12 with a postgis 3.0 on any debian based distro.. Pls tell, I will read with interest. Also, pls, not recompiling the whole thing with all associated libs ... 
Thanks 
Which was my customer requirelent

Le mar. 31 janv. 2023 à 17:38, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> a écrit :
On 1/31/23 05:09, Marc Millas wrote:
> Sorry for inappropriate "reply".
>
> if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT
> possible to choose a postgis version.

Are you talking about the repo hosted by Debian or the Postgres
community repo's here:

https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/

> its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are
> inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time.
> (you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1
> or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
> 2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have been
> unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
> when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all cross
> possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities
> according to postgis matrix)
>
> so...
>
>
> Marc MILLAS
> Senior Architect
> +33607850334
> www.mokadb.com <http://www.mokadb.com>
>
>

--
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adrian.klaver@aklaver.com

Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Jeffrey Walton
Date:


On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 3:03 AM Giovanni Biscontini <biscontini.g@es2000.it> wrote:
We're looking for a Open Source alternative to Rhel for our VM server dedicated to Postgresql (14->15) installations. We're testing Alma, Rocky, and Oracle distributions as they're compatible with Rhel package systems. 
Can you share your experience on a similar choice?

Let me throw my choice into the mix... Fedora Server.

The benefits of Fedora Server is modern software. Every six months, you get the latest release of nearly all packages.

The downside is, you lose API/ABI compatibility. Fedora Server is always moving forward with the latest packages, including past ABI/API breaks. Another downside is, you run dnf-system-upgrade (https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/) every six months. It is like Ubuntu's do-release-upgrade.

The real upside to modern software is, you get all the bug fixes, including latent bugs that should have CVE's associated with them but were misclassified. For a discussion, see Greg KH's talk at https://thenewstack.io/design-system-can-update-greg-kroah-hartman-linux-security/ .

Jeff

Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:
On 2/1/23 07:54, Marc Millas wrote:
> If I remember  well, I did try all repo I ever heard off, and basic 
> Google search
> Till I ask someone thru a postgis mailing list.
> If you find something, like how to install a postgres 12 with a postgis 
> 3.0 on any debian based distro.. Pls tell, I will read with interest. 
> Also, pls, not recompiling the whole thing with all associated libs ...
> Thanks
> Which was my customer requirelent

Using:

lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS
Release:        20.04
Codename:       focal


and community repos:

deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt focal-pgdg main
deb https://apt-archive.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt focal-pgdg-archive main


sudo apt install postgresql-12


Success. You can now start the database server using:

     pg_ctlcluster 12 main start


Then:

sudo apt list postgis -a
Listing... Done
postgis/focal-pgdg,focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.2+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.1+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.1+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.0+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.3+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.2+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.1+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.0+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.4+dfsg-3.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.4+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.3+dfsg-1~exp1.pgdg20.04+1+b1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.2+dfsg-1~exp2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.1+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.0+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 
3.1.0~alpha1+dfsg-1~exp2~232.gitc62f703.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.3+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.2+dfsg-4.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.2+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.1+dfsg-4.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.1+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal 3.0.0+dfsg-6ubuntu4 amd64


Followed by:

sudo apt install postgis=3.0.3+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1

...

After this operation, 234 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n


I did not actually install as I don't use PostGIS, so I would not know 
how to verify a clean install.


This:

deb https://apt-archive.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt focal-pgdg-archive main

comes from here:

https://www.df7cb.de/blog/2020/apt-archive.postgresql.org.html

The community packagers for deb packages have set up an archive repo for 
older versions.


> 
> Le mar. 31 janv. 2023 à 17:38, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com 
> <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>> a écrit :
> 
>     On 1/31/23 05:09, Marc Millas wrote:
>      > Sorry for inappropriate "reply".
>      >
>      > if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT
>      > possible to choose a postgis version.
> 
>     Are you talking about the repo hosted by Debian or the Postgres
>     community repo's here:
> 
>     https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/
>     <https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/>
> 
>      > its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are
>      > inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time.
>      > (you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1
>      > or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
>      > 2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have
>     been
>      > unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
>      > when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all
>     cross
>      > possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities
>      > according to postgis matrix)
>      >
>      > so...
>      >
>      >
>      > Marc MILLAS
>      > Senior Architect
>      > +33607850334
>      > www.mokadb.com <http://www.mokadb.com> <http://www.mokadb.com
>     <http://www.mokadb.com>>
>      >
>      >
> 
>     -- 
>     Adrian Klaver
>     adrian.klaver@aklaver.com <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
> 

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Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Bob Jolliffe
Date:
I have generally favoured ubuntu LTS editions over the years, more out of familiarity than any particular good technical reason.  In the past, postgresql on FreeBSD would have been my first goto, but it's harder to get freebsd skills out on the market than ubuntu/debian linux.

I do have one gripe about the packaged postgis packages : the list of dependencies seem quite enormous.  For example, the previous poster mentions 234MB.  I find the list of dependencies a little baffling and disconcerting.

Regards
Bob  

On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 16:25, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com> wrote:
On 2/1/23 07:54, Marc Millas wrote:
> If I remember  well, I did try all repo I ever heard off, and basic
> Google search
> Till I ask someone thru a postgis mailing list.
> If you find something, like how to install a postgres 12 with a postgis
> 3.0 on any debian based distro.. Pls tell, I will read with interest.
> Also, pls, not recompiling the whole thing with all associated libs ...
> Thanks
> Which was my customer requirelent

Using:

lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS
Release:        20.04
Codename:       focal


and community repos:

deb http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt focal-pgdg main
deb https://apt-archive.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt focal-pgdg-archive main


sudo apt install postgresql-12


Success. You can now start the database server using:

     pg_ctlcluster 12 main start


Then:

sudo apt list postgis -a
Listing... Done
postgis/focal-pgdg,focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.2+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.1+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.1+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.3.0+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.3+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.2+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.1+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.2.0+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.4+dfsg-3.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.4+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.3+dfsg-1~exp1.pgdg20.04+1+b1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.2+dfsg-1~exp2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.1+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.1.0+dfsg-1.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive
3.1.0~alpha1+dfsg-1~exp2~232.gitc62f703.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.3+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.2+dfsg-4.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.2+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.1+dfsg-4.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal-pgdg-archive 3.0.1+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1 amd64
postgis/focal 3.0.0+dfsg-6ubuntu4 amd64


Followed by:

sudo apt install postgis=3.0.3+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1

...

After this operation, 234 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n


I did not actually install as I don't use PostGIS, so I would not know
how to verify a clean install.


This:

deb https://apt-archive.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt focal-pgdg-archive main

comes from here:

https://www.df7cb.de/blog/2020/apt-archive.postgresql.org.html

The community packagers for deb packages have set up an archive repo for
older versions.


>
> Le mar. 31 janv. 2023 à 17:38, Adrian Klaver <adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
> <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>> a écrit :
>
>     On 1/31/23 05:09, Marc Millas wrote:
>      > Sorry for inappropriate "reply".
>      >
>      > if you do check the debian postgis repo, you ll find that its NOT
>      > possible to choose a postgis version.
>
>     Are you talking about the repo hosted by Debian or the Postgres
>     community repo's here:
>
>     https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/
>     <https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/>
>
>      > its possible for postgis 2.4 and 2.5, then ALL 3.x versions are
>      > inaccessible but one, that did change from time to time.
>      > (you MUST ask for postgis 3 without being able to ask for 3.0 or 3.1
>      > or...  its like asking for postgres 9 without .5 or .6)
>      > 2 of my customers reverse to a RH family linux because they have
>     been
>      > unable to install the requested postgres/postgis version on debian.
>      > when I did ask the team, the reply was: we cannot package for all
>     cross
>      > possibilities (ie. 5 postgres x 6 postgis, less some impossibilities
>      > according to postgis matrix)
>      >
>      > so...
>      >
>      >
>      > Marc MILLAS
>      > Senior Architect
>      > +33607850334
>      > www.mokadb.com <http://www.mokadb.com> <http://www.mokadb.com
>     <http://www.mokadb.com>>
>      >
>      >
>
>     --
>     Adrian Klaver
>     adrian.klaver@aklaver.com <mailto:adrian.klaver@aklaver.com>
>

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Re: Best Open Source OS for Postgresql

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:
On 2/1/23 9:22 AM, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
> I have generally favoured ubuntu LTS editions over the years, more out 
> of familiarity than any particular good technical reason.  In the past, 
> postgresql on FreeBSD would have been my first goto, but it's harder to 
> get freebsd skills out on the market than ubuntu/debian linux.
> 
> I do have one gripe about the packaged postgis packages : the list of 
> dependencies seem quite enormous.  For example, the previous poster 
> mentions 234MB.  I find the list of dependencies a little baffling and 
> disconcerting.

It is a big program that covers a lot of ground. What is disconcerting 
is that you see the dependencies called out instead of being wrapped 
into a blob.

Not going to make much difference to the dependencies but this:


sudo apt install postgis=3.0.3+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1


should actually be:

sudo apt install postgresql-12-postgis-3=3.0.3+dfsg-2.pgdg20.04+1

The first form has a dependency on the latest Postgres, so will want to 
install Postgres 15.

> 
> Regards
> Bob
> 

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