Thread: Meeting at the conference

Meeting at the conference

From
"Dave Page"
Date:
Hi all,

I proposed a meeting of the web team to discuss our future work at the
conference in July, which has now been included on the agenda. If anyone
has any specific items they'd like to see on the agenda, please let me
know so I can work it all out. It'd also be good to know who's likely to
be there :-)

Cheers, Dave.

Re: Meeting at the conference

From
Devrim GUNDUZ
Date:
Hi,

On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 19:43 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> It'd also be good to know who's likely to
> be there :-)

I'll be there. :)
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Re: Meeting at the conference

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@commandprompt.com]
> Sent: 17 April 2006 22:59
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Meeting at the conference
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 19:43 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> > It'd also be good to know who's likely to be there :-)
>
> I'll be there. :)

I'd heard a rumour :-). Anything specific you'd like us to discuss?

Regards, Dave

Re: Meeting at the conference

From
Devrim GUNDUZ
Date:
Hi

On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 08:15 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> > I'll be there. :)
>
> I'd heard a rumour :-).

:)

>  Anything specific you'd like us to discuss?

Yes:

- I'd like to have a *written* policy about the news and event items.
When someone wants to step up the plate with us, we should be able to
point that guy about our policies.

- In fact, I'd like to document all of the things. Quotes, Books, etc.

- I'd like to drink beer after the meeting.

- I'd like to see the captcha for the comment (and possibly also for
news and event) submissions

- I'd like to discuss the status of the servers and whether we need
additional support from community.

That's what I have in my mind now.

Regards,
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Re: Meeting at the conference

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devrim GUNDUZ [mailto:devrim@commandprompt.com]
> Sent: 18 April 2006 13:01
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Meeting at the conference
>
> Hi
>
> On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 08:15 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> > > I'll be there. :)
> >
> > I'd heard a rumour :-).
>
> :)
>
> >  Anything specific you'd like us to discuss?
>
> Yes:
>
> - I'd like to have a *written* policy about the news and event items.
> When someone wants to step up the plate with us, we should be
> able to point that guy about our policies.

Yup

> - In fact, I'd like to document all of the things. Quotes, Books, etc.

Not sure what you'd document on those...

> - I'd like to drink beer after the meeting.

Definitely.

> - I'd like to see the captcha for the comment (and possibly
> also for news and event) submissions

Well, that was implemented and demonstrated very recently by Travis,
based on Geviks work. There were accessibilty problems which were
discussed and iirc, it seems like more hassle to implement an accessible
captcha system than to just delete the few spam comments we get each
day.

> - I'd like to discuss the status of the servers and whether
> we need additional support from community.

OK.

> That's what I have in my mind now.

Thanks - I'll compile an agenda based on this and any other comments we
get.

Cheers, Dave.

Re: Meeting at the conference

From
"Magnus Hagander"
Date:
> > - I'd like to have a *written* policy about the news and
> event items.
> > When someone wants to step up the plate with us, we should
> be able to
> > point that guy about our policies.
>
> Yup

Per IM discussion, this of course means that Devrim just volounteered to
write a proposal ;-)


> > - I'd like to drink beer after the meeting.
>
> Definitely.

Ok. That decides it, now I'm definitly coming to this talk.


> > - I'd like to see the captcha for the comment (and possibly
> also for
> > news and event) submissions
>
> Well, that was implemented and demonstrated very recently by
> Travis, based on Geviks work. There were accessibilty
> problems which were discussed and iirc, it seems like more
> hassle to implement an accessible captcha system than to just
> delete the few spam comments we get each day.

Might want to talk about what we can do about the spam submissions in
general, perhaps, rather than focusing on just that.


> > That's what I have in my mind now.
>
> Thanks - I'll compile an agenda based on this and any other
> comments we get.

Where did the bugtracker discussion go?! ;-)

Do we want this to be specificallyi website, or "server systems in
general". If it's servers in general, I propose adding something about
settnig up a more common structure of how to maintain the machines -
different machines are handled in different ways now in too many ways,
imho.

If just web, well. Perhaps something about enhancing the download
system, and the future of the bittorrent stuff.

//Magnus

Re: Meeting at the conference

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Magnus Hagander [mailto:mha@sollentuna.net]
> Sent: 18 April 2006 13:10
> To: Dave Page; Devrim GUNDUZ
> Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: RE: [pgsql-www] Meeting at the conference
>
> Do we want this to be specificallyi website, or "server
> systems in general". If it's servers in general, I propose
> adding something about settnig up a more common structure of
> how to maintain the machines - different machines are handled
> in different ways now in too many ways, imho.

Depends how much time we have I guess - can you give us a clue Josh?

> If just web, well. Perhaps something about enhancing the
> download system, and the future of the bittorrent stuff.

Yeah, I'd thought about the former.

Regards, Dave

Re: Meeting at the conference

From
Devrim GUNDUZ
Date:
Hi Magnus,

On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 14:10 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> Do we want this to be specificallyi website, or "server systems in
> general". If it's servers in general, I propose adding something about
> settnig up a more common structure of how to maintain the machines -
> different machines are handled in different ways now in too many ways,
> imho.

Server systems in general...

Regards,
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Re: Meeting at the conference

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 08:10, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > > - I'd like to have a *written* policy about the news and
> >
> > event items.
> >
> > > When someone wants to step up the plate with us, we should
> >
> > be able to
> >
> > > point that guy about our policies.
> >
> > Yup
>
> Per IM discussion, this of course means that Devrim just volounteered to
> write a proposal ;-)
>

You know, I might want to argue against the idea of having written policies.
We don't have written policies for any other part of this project (the whole
project I mean, not just www), but instead kind of feel our way through
things.  (Hmm.. suddenly I have the notion to stab my hand with a fork).
Well, I guess the only point is that I hate to get bogged down in rules and
regulations on things, so if we keep them in the spirit of general guidelines
that the web community can change or ignore at any time it might be ok.

> > > - I'd like to drink beer after the meeting.
> >
> > Definitely.
>
> Ok. That decides it, now I'm definitly coming to this talk.
>

So there will be no beer *at* the meeting?  Hmm...

> > > - I'd like to see the captcha for the comment (and possibly
> >
> > also for
> >
> > > news and event) submissions
> >
> > Well, that was implemented and demonstrated very recently by
> > Travis, based on Geviks work. There were accessibilty
> > problems which were discussed and iirc, it seems like more
> > hassle to implement an accessible captcha system than to just
> > delete the few spam comments we get each day.
>
> Might want to talk about what we can do about the spam submissions in
> general, perhaps, rather than focusing on just that.
>

Agreed.

> > > That's what I have in my mind now.
> >
> > Thanks - I'll compile an agenda based on this and any other
> > comments we get.
>
> Where did the bugtracker discussion go?! ;-)
>

I have a desire to do "bug capturing", which is a little different.  This
would be a good thing for the community at large to participate in wrt the
web team, but really the implementation details have never really been the
problem in this discussion.

> Do we want this to be specificallyi website, or "server systems in
> general". If it's servers in general, I propose adding something about
> settnig up a more common structure of how to maintain the machines -
> different machines are handled in different ways now in too many ways,
> imho.
>
> If just web, well. Perhaps something about enhancing the download
> system, and the future of the bittorrent stuff.
>

I have a todo list of a bunch of different things but no time to work on, I
guess if we need to fill up things I can break out with some of those items.
(An example?  What ever happened to setting up the doxygen stuff?)

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Re: Meeting at the conference

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Robert Treat wrote:

> I have a todo list of a bunch of different things but no time to work
> on, I guess if we need to fill up things I can break out with some of
> those items. (An example?  What ever happened to setting up the doxygen
> stuff?)

Its on my TODO list ... I'm moving postgresql.org to the new 64bit server
the night of the 29th, and will be doing the doxygen stuff shortly
afterwards ...

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Re: Meeting at the conference

From
Robert Treat
Date:
On Tuesday 18 April 2006 11:51, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Apr 2006, Robert Treat wrote:
> > I have a todo list of a bunch of different things but no time to work
> > on, I guess if we need to fill up things I can break out with some of
> > those items. (An example?  What ever happened to setting up the doxygen
> > stuff?)
>
> Its on my TODO list ... I'm moving postgresql.org to the new 64bit server
> the night of the 29th, and will be doing the doxygen stuff shortly
> afterwards ...
>

Cool!  :-)

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