Thread: Animated advertisement banners

Animated advertisement banners

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Can we get rid of animated advertisement banners sometime?  They make
the site look ridiculous.


Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:peter_e@gmx.net]
> Sent: 14 January 2004 19:32
> To: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: [pgsql-www] Animated advertisement banners
>
> Can we get rid of animated advertisement banners sometime?
> They make the site look ridiculous.

What, the 'publicise your project here' and 'support postgresql' ones?
Sure if someone comes up with some new ones.

Regards, Dave.

Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
Alexey Borzov
Date:
Hi!

Dave Page wrote:
>>Can we get rid of animated advertisement banners sometime?
>>They make the site look ridiculous.
>
>
> What, the 'publicise your project here' and 'support postgresql' ones?
> Sure if someone comes up with some new ones.

Why not just use text links instead of banners? Current ones are *too* similar
in color to the site itself, BTW.


Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexey Borzov [mailto:borz_off@cs.msu.su]
> Sent: 14 January 2004 20:51
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Animated advertisement banners
>
> Hi!
>
> Dave Page wrote:
> >>Can we get rid of animated advertisement banners sometime?
> >>They make the site look ridiculous.
> >
> >
> > What, the 'publicise your project here' and 'support
> postgresql' ones?
> > Sure if someone comes up with some new ones.
>
> Why not just use text links instead of banners?

Because we offer the banner ads for a number of reasons. The ones on the
left are given free to mirror providers by way of thanks, and sold to
anyone else with an appropriate company or product to raise funds. The
ads on the right are given freely to any open source project related to
PostgreSQL in some way.

> Current ones
> are *too* similar in color to the site itself, BTW.

That was intentional, though I'm not adverse to different coloured ones
if they look good.

Regards, Dave.

Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
Michael Glaesemann
Date:
On Jan 15, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Dave Page wrote:
>> From: Alexey Borzov [mailto:borz_off@cs.msu.su]
>> Dave Page wrote:
>>>> Can we get rid of animated advertisement banners sometime?
>>>> They make the site look ridiculous.
>>>
>>>
>>> What, the 'publicise your project here' and 'support
>> postgresql' ones?
>>> Sure if someone comes up with some new ones.
>>
>> Why not just use text links instead of banners?
>
> Because we offer the banner ads for a number of reasons. The ones on
> the
> left are given free to mirror providers by way of thanks, and sold to
> anyone else with an appropriate company or product to raise funds. The
> ads on the right are given freely to any open source project related to
> PostgreSQL in some way.
>
>> Current ones
>> are *too* similar in color to the site itself, BTW.
>
> That was intentional, though I'm not adverse to different coloured ones
> if they look good.

What are people's feelings considering the size/shape of the ads? Is
this negotiable (if not now, if/when there's a redesign in the future)?
I find the large size detracts from the PostgreSQL masthead itself (but
that's just my opinion).

This is probably more appropriate when a redesign is discussed, but I'm
just floating this now because it came up.

Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com


Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Glaesemann [mailto:grzm@myrealbox.com]
> Sent: 15 January 2004 06:52
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: Alexey Borzov; pgsql-www@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] Animated advertisement banners
>
>
> What are people's feelings considering the size/shape of the
> ads? Is this negotiable (if not now, if/when there's a
> redesign in the future)?

Someone would need to get updated ads from every sponsor/project before
the new site goes live otherwise it'll look terrible.

> I find the large size detracts from the PostgreSQL masthead
> itself (but that's just my opinion).

Large? They're only 120x120...

Regards, Dave.

Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
Alexey Borzov
Date:
Hi!

Dave Page wrote:
>>>Sure if someone comes up with some new ones.
>>
>>Why not just use text links instead of banners?
>
> Because we offer the banner ads for a number of reasons. The ones on the
> left are given free to mirror providers by way of thanks, and sold to
> anyone else with an appropriate company or product to raise funds. The
> ads on the right are given freely to any open source project related to
> PostgreSQL in some way.

I understand why they are there, but I want to reiterate: the same ads can be
given in text blocks and they won't make the site look *this* unprofessional.

As for the mirrors, the approach taken by PHP[1], where the image is shown on
the appropriate mirror seems more reasonable.

[1] http://www.php.net/mirroring.php


Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
Michael Glaesemann
Date:
On Jan 15, 2004, at 5:36 PM, Dave Page wrote:
>> From: Michael Glaesemann [mailto:grzm@myrealbox.com]
>> I find the large size detracts from the PostgreSQL masthead
>> itself (but that's just my opinion).
>
> Large? They're only 120x120...

Like I said, just my opinion. With an 'average' window size (roughly
840 pixels wide), they're a third of the masthead (not counting the
gray border). Personally, I find that large. I agree it's not as large
as one of the standard banner ads.

Michael Glaesemann
grzm myrealbox com


Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
"Steve Simms"
Date:
Michael Glaesemann said:
> What are people's feelings considering the size/shape of the ads?

The main issue I see with the banner ads is that the left one is where I would
expect the site logo (i.e. the elephant) to be on most sites.

I'm occasionally caught off guard by this even after having been to the site
quite often, and I would imagine the same to be true of others who visit the
site.

This might be worth considering in a subsequent redesign of the site.

Hope this helps,

Steve Simms
Database Developer & Administrator
Medical Media Systems, Inc.


Re: Animated advertisement banners

From
"Marc G. Fournier"
Date:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Michael Glaesemann wrote:

>
> On Jan 15, 2004, at 5:36 PM, Dave Page wrote:
> >> From: Michael Glaesemann [mailto:grzm@myrealbox.com]
> >> I find the large size detracts from the PostgreSQL masthead
> >> itself (but that's just my opinion).
> >
> > Large? They're only 120x120...
>
> Like I said, just my opinion. With an 'average' window size (roughly
> 840 pixels wide), they're a third of the masthead (not counting the
> gray border). Personally, I find that large. I agree it's not as large
> as one of the standard banner ads.

size is non-negiable, since any smaller and you can't get anything into
them ... even now, its a bugger compared to the large ones ... placement
is a bit more negotiable, but visibility is critcal here, so I can't see
there is much optional there :(

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