Thread: SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

From
Rod Taylor
Date:
Adds in NO MAXVALUE and NO MINVALUE options for create sequence per 200X
spec, which will also make alter sequence a touch easier.

sequence.c  init_params() will check for settings which have been
defined twice, and complain.

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Re: SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Rod Taylor <rbt@rbt.ca> writes:
> Adds in NO MAXVALUE and NO MINVALUE options for create sequence per 200X
> spec, which will also make alter sequence a touch easier.

What are these supposed to do exactly?  There is no such animal as a
sequence that hasn't got a maxvalue, nor one without a minvalue.
"Large" does not mean "unlimited".

I'm not eager to pick up evidently-poorly-thought-out features from a
draft spec that is nowhere near being frozen.  Anyway, didn't we decide
that converging syntax with 200X was a bad idea if we weren't going to
converge semantics?

            regards, tom lane

Re: SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

From
Rod Taylor
Date:
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 20:37, Tom Lane wrote:
> Rod Taylor <rbt@rbt.ca> writes:
> > Adds in NO MAXVALUE and NO MINVALUE options for create sequence per 200X
> > spec, which will also make alter sequence a touch easier.
>
> What are these supposed to do exactly?  There is no such animal as a
> sequence that hasn't got a maxvalue, nor one without a minvalue.
> "Large" does not mean "unlimited".

6) Case:
 a) If <sequence generator maxvalue option> is specified, then Case:
  i) If NO MAXVALUE is specified, then let SMAX be an
implementation-defined <signed numeric literal> of declared type DT.
  ii) Otherwise, let SMAX be <sequence generator max value>.
 b) Otherwise, let SMAX be an implementation-defined <signed numeric
literal> of declared type DT.

7) Case:
 a) If <sequence generator minvalue option> is specified, then Case:
  i) If NO MINVALUE is specified, then let SMIN be an
implementation-defined <signed numeric literal> of declared type DT.
  ii) Otherwise, let SMIN be <sequence generator min value>.
 b) Otherwise, let SMIN be an implementation-defined <signed numeric
literal> of declared type DT.

> I'm not eager to pick up evidently-poorly-thought-out features from a
> draft spec that is nowhere near being frozen.

These 2 particular items are to spec, with the exception that we don't
stop at the limit of the datatype, int4's have int8 limits.

I think we need an ALTER SEQUENCE command, especially once dependencies
are fully tracked on them.  This will include some method of returning
to the defaults.

> Anyway, didn't we decide that converging syntax with 200X was a
> bad idea if we weren't going to converge semantics?

Too late for that.  The rest of the create sequence syntax is in-line
with the new spec, with the exception of the above 2 items.

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Rod Taylor <rbt@rbt.ca>

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Re: SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
Tom Lane writes:

> I'm not eager to pick up evidently-poorly-thought-out features from a
> draft spec that is nowhere near being frozen.  Anyway, didn't we decide
> that converging syntax with 200X was a bad idea if we weren't going to
> converge semantics?

I think we realized that the semantics are the same.

--
Peter Eisentraut   peter_e@gmx.net


Re: SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Your patch has been added to the PostgreSQL unapplied patches list at:

    http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches

I will try to apply it within the next 48 hours.

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Tom Lane wrote:
> Rod Taylor <rbt@rbt.ca> writes:
> > Adds in NO MAXVALUE and NO MINVALUE options for create sequence per 200X
> > spec, which will also make alter sequence a touch easier.
>
> What are these supposed to do exactly?  There is no such animal as a
> sequence that hasn't got a maxvalue, nor one without a minvalue.
> "Large" does not mean "unlimited".
>
> I'm not eager to pick up evidently-poorly-thought-out features from a
> draft spec that is nowhere near being frozen.  Anyway, didn't we decide
> that converging syntax with 200X was a bad idea if we weren't going to
> converge semantics?
>
>             regards, tom lane
>
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Re: SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Your patch has been added to the PostgreSQL unapplied patches list at:

    http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches

I will try to apply it within the next 48 hours.

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Rod Taylor wrote:
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> Adds in NO MAXVALUE and NO MINVALUE options for create sequence per 200X
> spec, which will also make alter sequence a touch easier.
>
> sequence.c  init_params() will check for settings which have been
> defined twice, and complain.
>
> --
> Rod Taylor <rbt@rbt.ca>
>
> PGP Key: http://www.rbt.ca/rbtpub.asc

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Re: SEQUENCEs and NO MAXVALUE NO MINVALUE

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
Patch applied.  Thanks.

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Rod Taylor wrote:
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> Adds in NO MAXVALUE and NO MINVALUE options for create sequence per 200X
> spec, which will also make alter sequence a touch easier.
>
> sequence.c  init_params() will check for settings which have been
> defined twice, and complain.
>
> --
> Rod Taylor <rbt@rbt.ca>
>
> PGP Key: http://www.rbt.ca/rbtpub.asc

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