Thread: Cross-Platform development

Cross-Platform development

From
Martin Neuss
Date:
hello,

i plan to convert a filemaker database to postgresql and need some
information before actually starting the conversion.

actual project:
relational database with appr. 40 tables for obstetric data (perinatal
statistics in germany, diagnosis- and operations-code-tables, user-data
...) developed over the last 4 years.
developed with filemaker-pro v5.0 to 6.03 on mac os, distributed to
hospitals running windows nt/ xp/ 2000 using filemaker server and
filemaker pro.

planned:
moving database to postgresql
development on macintosh with mac os x (darwin=bsd unix)
using java, jdbc, for portability perhaps swing as gui.

questions:
1) does anybody know if it is possible if there exists a gui-design
-software for mac os x and java so that i can develop the interface
completly on my mac and port it to windows.
2) are there better ways instead of using java/jdbc regarding
portability, requested time ((and speed))

thanks in advance

martin



Re: Cross-Platform development

From
"John Chapman"
Date:
> questions:
> 1) does anybody know if it is possible if there exists a gui-design
> -software for mac os x and java so that i can develop the interface
> completly on my mac and port it to windows. 2) are there better ways
> instead of using java/jdbc regarding portability, requested time ((and
> speed))
>


Hello Martin,

(Please be patient, I am not an expert)

I am curious why you are developing an application that actually runs
on the machine, instead of using a webbrowser? You probably have some
very specific reasons for this, but I am still curious. I am just a
beginning developer, but to me not having to install anything on the
clients workstations are pretty nice, avoids a lot of the crashes,
etc. Also so portable.

Another guy I have spoken with has a database product that many
companies use; they used to use an actual application, but have since
moved to only browser support. And for the most part- there are
always exceptions- they don't have to do too much to make sure that
the Mac users can also use the browser just fine.

I see a lot of benefits and negatives on both sides of the equation.


John Chapman

Re: Cross-Platform development

From
Martin Neuss
Date:
hello john,
i am new to sql-databases and web-publishing.
i´ve already thought of using a web-browser as an interface to my
database system. but when i want to have full control over my data and
my application i assume that i have to write a stand-alone application
or at least to use applets.
you see i i have some very special menues in my database (hierarchic,
need to supply additional data when selecting entries, ...). i don´t
know very much of html or xml but as much as i know these features are
not supported by any web publishing standard.

thus - to get most control over data, interface (and speed) - i want to
write a cross-plattform application or at least an applet as interface
to my dbms.

greetings mn


> (Please be patient, I am not an expert)
>
> I am curious why you are developing an application that actually runs
> on the machine, instead of using a webbrowser? You probably have some
> very specific reasons for this, but I am still curious. I am just a
> beginning developer, but to me not having to install anything on the
> clients workstations are pretty nice, avoids a lot of the crashes,
> etc. Also so portable.
>
> Another guy I have spoken with has a database product that many
> companies use; they used to use an actual application, but have since
> moved to only browser support. And for the most part- there are
> always exceptions- they don't have to do too much to make sure that
> the Mac users can also use the browser just fine.
>
> I see a lot of benefits and negatives on both sides of the equation.
>
>
> John Chapman
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate
> subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your
> message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
>



Re: Cross-Platform development

From
Aspire Something
Date:
Hello John ,

I am already Developing a Program which is totaly dependant on mozilla as
web browser for frontend
Note this program is for Banking sector till now I have completed 50% of the
project and dont find any concerns of all sorts you people have discussed in
the fourm .

Mozilla is used as web browser as it could be installed on linux also and is
nearly W3C compliant
More you can change mozilla for good.

The programing is fine and Less headache.


I would suggest you guys not to reinvent the weel and a give thought to
PHP + PostgreSQL + Apache on linux / windows depends on you all.

Any suggestion , comments or queries  are whole heartedly welcomed


Regards,
V Kashyap.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Neuss" <maneuss@mneuss.de>
To: <johnc@cniconsulting.com>
Cc: <pgsql-novice@postgresql.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NOVICE] Cross-Platform development


> hello john,
> i am new to sql-databases and web-publishing.
> i´ve already thought of using a web-browser as an interface to my
> database system. but when i want to have full control over my data and
> my application i assume that i have to write a stand-alone application
> or at least to use applets.
> you see i i have some very special menues in my database (hierarchic,
> need to supply additional data when selecting entries, ...). i don´t
> know very much of html or xml but as much as i know these features are
> not supported by any web publishing standard.
>
> thus - to get most control over data, interface (and speed) - i want to
> write a cross-plattform application or at least an applet as interface
> to my dbms.
>
> greetings mn
>
>
> > (Please be patient, I am not an expert)
> >
> > I am curious why you are developing an application that actually runs
> > on the machine, instead of using a webbrowser? You probably have some
> > very specific reasons for this, but I am still curious. I am just a
> > beginning developer, but to me not having to install anything on the
> > clients workstations are pretty nice, avoids a lot of the crashes,
> > etc. Also so portable.
> >
> > Another guy I have spoken with has a database product that many
> > companies use; they used to use an actual application, but have since
> > moved to only browser support. And for the most part- there are
> > always exceptions- they don't have to do too much to make sure that
> > the Mac users can also use the browser just fine.
> >
> > I see a lot of benefits and negatives on both sides of the equation.
> >
> >
> > John Chapman
> >
> > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate
> > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your
> > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
> >
>
>
>
> ---------------------------(end of broadcast)---------------------------
> TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate
> subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your
> message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
>


Re: Cross-Platform development

From
Michelle Konzack
Date:
Hello,

Am 00:28 2003-03-09 +0530 hat Aspire Something geschrieben:

>I would suggest you guys not to reinvent the weel and a give thought to
>PHP + PostgreSQL + Apache on linux / windows depends on you all.
>
>Any suggestion , comments or queries  are whole heartedly welcomed

I am using php4/apache/postgresql on Debian GNU/Linux with a
Database of 80 GBytes and a seperately Binary-Server (I do not
like to put 200 GByte PDF's, MS-Docs, Pics and mp3 in the Database)

There is nothing which you can not do with a Web-Interface.

It works on all Operating-Systems (incl. MS-Dos).

The combination of php4/apache/postgresql on Linux is recommended.

Sorry for the late answer, but I am in Hospital and can get/send
my Mails only one time per week.

Have a nice pg-time

Michelle
from Strasbourg