Thread: initdb ignoring options?
Here's a happy initdb on 9.1 providing help: $ psql --version psql (PostgreSQL) 9.1.8 $ /usr/pgsql-9.1/bin/initdb --help initdb initializes a PostgreSQL database cluster. Usage: initdb [OPTION]... [DATADIR] ... Here's what I get on the latest repo: $ psql --version psql (PostgreSQL) 9.3devel $ initdb --help The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". This user must also own the server process. The database cluster will be initialized with locale "en_US.UTF-8" ... initdb --version does the same thing for me: ignores the command line and just goes onward to create a new cluster. I checked a random, not current 9.2 install and saw the same issue existed on that version too: $ psql --version psql (PostgreSQL) 9.2.1 $ initdb --help The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". This user must also own the server process. The database cluster will be initialized with locale "en_US.UTF-8" ... I would like for someone to tell me I'm doing something stupid and this problem isn't really there going back to 9.2. The last potentially related initdb change I found on a quick scan, from around the right time period was the code refactoring of http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/E1TeYOX-0005W4-Kj@gemulon.postgresql.org (there were a few additional initdb commits around then too) -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com
Hmm - just did a pull now: $ initdb --version initdb (PostgreSQL) 9.3devel $ initdb --help initdb initializes a PostgreSQL database cluster. Usage: initdb [OPTION]... [DATADIR] ...[snipped rest of help output] So looks like something odd you are doing - are you using any unusual build options? Cheers Mark On 27/02/13 11:16, Greg Smith wrote: > Here's a happy initdb on 9.1 providing help: > > $ psql --version > psql (PostgreSQL) 9.1.8 > $ /usr/pgsql-9.1/bin/initdb --help > initdb initializes a PostgreSQL database cluster. > Usage: > initdb [OPTION]... [DATADIR] ... > > Here's what I get on the latest repo: > > $ psql --version > psql (PostgreSQL) 9.3devel > $ initdb --help > The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". > This user must also own the server process. > The database cluster will be initialized with locale "en_US.UTF-8" ... > > initdb --version does the same thing for me: ignores the command line > and just goes onward to create a new cluster. I checked a random, not > current 9.2 install and saw the same issue existed on that version too: > > $ psql --version > psql (PostgreSQL) 9.2.1 > $ initdb --help > The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". > This user must also own the server process. > The database cluster will be initialized with locale "en_US.UTF-8" ... > > I would like for someone to tell me I'm doing something stupid and this > problem isn't really there going back to 9.2. The last potentially > related initdb change I found on a quick scan, from around the right > time period was the code refactoring of > http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/E1TeYOX-0005W4-Kj@gemulon.postgresql.org > (there were a few additional initdb commits around then too) >
Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com> writes: > $ initdb --help > The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". Hm. Works as expected for me. What platform is this exactly? regards, tom lane
On 2/26/13 6:01 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com> writes: >> $ initdb --help >> The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". > > Hm. Works as expected for me. What platform is this exactly? The broken one is OS X Lion 10.7.5, main build toolchain provided by Apple's development tools, and Homebrew used to install the missing libraries (zlib etc.) I had been beating my head against the wall asking why initdb didn't work for so long today, I didn't even think this could be a platform specific issue. I don't have any other OS X version installed here to test if this is specific to Lion or not. The working 9.1 install wasn't exactly the same OS, and now that I match that up perfectly it's also broken too. So whatever is going wrong isn't specific to 9.2+ at all; that was my bad. I attached a config.log from the latest 9.3 build if that helps anyone. On a tangent to this, making this more difficult is that there is something else weird about 9.2 on this Mac not defaulting to a small enough block of shared memory too: DETAIL: Failed system call was shmget(key=1, size=2072576, 03600). HINT: This error usually means that PostgreSQL's request for a shared memory segment exceeded available memory or swap space, or exceeded your kernel's SHMALL parameter. You can either reduce the request size or reconfigure the kernel with larger SHMALL. To reduce the request size (currently 2072576 bytes), reduce PostgreSQL's shared memory usage, perhaps by reducing shared_buffers or max_connections. That one doesn't show up in 9.1, and it's gone in 9.3, presumably due to the larger shared memory allocation changes there. I can chase that problem down on my own. The initdb thing left me grasping because I don't know as much as I'd like about autoconf or command line processing trivia. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com
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On 2/26/13 5:51 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > So looks like something odd you are doing - are you using any unusual > build options? The unusual part looks to be the build environment or libraries of this Mac I'm trying to use. The build options are the normal boring set: CONFIGURE = '--prefix=/Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest' '--enable-depend' '--enable-thread-safety' '--enable-cassert' '--enable-debug' CC = gcc CPPFLAGS = CFLAGS = -O2 -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wformat-security -fno-strict-aliasing -fwrapv -g CFLAGS_SL = LDFLAGS = -L../../../src/common -Wl,-dead_strip_dylibs LDFLAGS_EX = LDFLAGS_SL = LIBS = -lpgport -lpgcommon -lz -lreadline -lm VERSION = PostgreSQL 9.3devel I included the config.log in my last message, here's the simple output of that: cd . && ./config.status --recheck running CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh /bin/sh ./configure --prefix=/Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest --enable-depend --enable-thread-safety --enable-cassert --enable-debug --no-create --no-recursion checking build system type... x86_64-apple-darwin11.4.2 checking host system type... x86_64-apple-darwin11.4.2 checking which template to use... 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On 27/02/13 12:41, Greg Smith wrote: > On 2/26/13 5:51 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: >> So looks like something odd you are doing - are you using any unusual >> build options? > > The unusual part looks to be the build environment or libraries of this > Mac I'm trying to use. The build options are the normal boring set: > > CONFIGURE = '--prefix=/Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest' > '--enable-depend' '--enable-thread-safety' '--enable-cassert' > '--enable-debug' This might be a red herring - but I recall having problems using --enable-depend on older OSX versions (10.5 I think), so *maybe* worth seeing if leaving that option off and doing a distclean+rebuild changes anything. Cheers Mark
Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com> writes: > On 2/26/13 6:01 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >> Greg Smith <greg@2ndQuadrant.com> writes: >>> $ initdb --help >>> The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". >> Hm. Works as expected for me. What platform is this exactly? > The broken one is OS X Lion 10.7.5, main build toolchain provided by > Apple's development tools, and Homebrew used to install the missing > libraries (zlib etc.) I had been beating my head against the wall > asking why initdb didn't work for so long today, I didn't even think > this could be a platform specific issue. I don't have any other OS X > version installed here to test if this is specific to Lion or not. [ scratches head... ] One of the places where it works as expected for me is my 10.7.5 laptop. So there's something weird about some library you're using. What's getting linked into initdb ("otool -L" should answer that) and where'd you get it from? regards, tom lane
On 26 February 2013 22:16, Greg Smith <greg@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > Here's what I get on the latest repo: > > $ psql --version > psql (PostgreSQL) 9.3devel > $ initdb --help > The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "gsmith". > This user must also own the server process. > The database cluster will be initialized with locale "en_US.UTF-8" ... What does "which initdb" give you? And is it only initdb with the issue? Have you tested it with pg_ctl? -- Thom
On 2/26/13 6:57 PM, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > This might be a red herring - but I recall having problems using > --enable-depend on older OSX versions (10.5 I think), so *maybe* worth > seeing if leaving that option off and doing a distclean+rebuild changes > anything. I toggled off both that and not expliciting enabling enable-thread-safety with no change. For Thom's question, these are all hitting the Postgres I compiled, and yes other tools like pg_ctl seem fine: $ which pg_ctl /Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest/bin/pg_ctl $ pg_ctl --version pg_ctl (PostgreSQL) 9.3devel $ which initdb /Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest/bin/initdb $ initdb --version Database cluster already exists in /Users/gsmith/pgwork/data/latest -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com
I have solved my problem after chasing down some library trivia. It's the fault of my own shell script, but the cause/effect was surprising to me. I'll go through some troubleshooting library flow on OS X documentation below since this was new to me and I wrote down notes. Maybe this will be useful for someone else. The sole upside of this mess is that I'm almost done with having a OS X based stack/process I can recommend for reviewers. My peg development wrapper script defines a function named initdb, and I was sourcing that in. That's what broke initdb the binary. I think this was specific to initdb because of how the hand-off is done inside src/bin/initdb/initdb.c to find "postgres" based on the path to initdb's argv[0]. I saw that was calling something in /bin/sh on several operations, like this: fixing permissions on existing directory /Users/gsmith/pgwork/data/latest ... ok creating subdirectories ... ok dyld: loaded: /bin/sh dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libncurses.5.4.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib [Details on getting that output also below] I'm not exactly sure why this problem doesn't pop on Linux where I use peg all the time. Is it because the involved shell is /bin/sh on the Mac? Is it due to linker implementation differences? System library differences? That level of detail doesn't seem too important to PostgreSQL development, so I didn't chase this down to the exactly underlying difference. Tom started me down the right path with: On 2/26/13 7:03 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > One of the places where it works as expected for > me is my 10.7.5 laptop. So there's something weird about some library > you're using. What's getting linked into initdb ("otool -L" should > answer that) and where'd you get it from? $ otool -L `which initdb` /Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest/bin/initdb:/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 159.1.0) Far as I know that's the OS provided version of that file. But half the binaries on the system link to that, i.e.: $ otool -L /bin/bash /bin/bash:/usr/lib/libncurses.5.4.dylib (compatibility version 5.4.0, current version 5.4.0)/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 159.0.0) Note how the Mac is linking to two versions at once with the same file name here. It doesn't use a symlink for that like I'm used to on Linux. Also, libSystem.B.dylib is a dynamic library (.dylib) that can pull a lot more things in. It doesn't seem very useful on its own to know it's being linked in. If you want to trace all the dynamic libraries that are pulled in by something you run from an OS X command line, set this: $ export DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES="yes" There's more of those options described here, if that's not enough: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/DeveloperTools/Conceptual/DynamicLibraries/100-Articles/LoggingDynamicLoaderEvents.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40002077-SW1 You also can override where the system libraries come from, similarly to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, like this: export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Users/gsmith/temp/ I think that only "took" usefully when I started another bash after setting it. Once that's done, now you get a useful list of all the libraries pulled in: $ initdb --version dyld: loaded: /Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest/bin/initdb dyld: loaded: /Users/gsmith/temp//libSystem.B.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libcache.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libcommonCrypto.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libcompiler_rt.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libcopyfile.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libdispatch.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libdnsinfo.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libdyld.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libkeymgr.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/liblaunch.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libmacho.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libquarantine.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libremovefile.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_blocks.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_c.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_dnssd.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_info.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_network.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_notify.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libsystem_sandbox.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libunc.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libunwind.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libxpc.dylib initdb (PostgreSQL) 9.3devel The clue for my problem was that after all of that, the one Mac I could make work here included these lines next: dyld: loaded: /bin/sh dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libncurses.5.4.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib dyld: loaded: /usr/lib/system/libcache.dylib ... Making me think about the /bin/sh environment. Looking into the diff from the working/not working output of "set > env.txt" figured out what was going on. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com
On 2/26/13 9:18 PM, Greg Smith wrote: > $ otool -L `which initdb` > /Users/gsmith/pgwork/inst/latest/bin/initdb: > /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current > version 159.1.0) Two last bits of trivia and I'll stop talking to myself. You can get the full list of things this dynamic library then links to like this: $ otool -lTv /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib | grep "(offset" name /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (offset 24) name/usr/lib/system/libcache.dylib (offset 24) name /usr/lib/system/libcommonCrypto.dylib (offset 24) ... There's a bit more information about all the libraries squashed into this one on OS X at http://0xfe.blogspot.com/2006/03/qa-how-os-x-executes-applications.html It is also worth nothing that otool is part of the developer tools for OS X, not the base system. Features like DYLD_PRINT_LIBRARIES look like they work on any system though. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com