Thread: Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

From
wsheldah@lexmark.com
Date:

The list looks fantastic.  I'm now looking forward to this release.  Sounds like
it's planned for just 6-9 months after the 7.1 release, or thereabouts?  Good
agressive schedule.

I would like to request one more feature of course:  support for ALTER TABLE
tablename MODIFY columnname [create clause] would make my life much easier.
When designing a new database from scratch, I often find myself having to change
column types during the very early stages of development.

That would also help users who need to convert their MONEY columns to
money-formatted decimal coluns once this release comes out and they upgrade.

Again, thanks for all the hard work.

Wes Sheldahl



Bruno Wolff III <bruno%wolff.to@interlock.lexmark.com> on 07/12/2001 09:24:31 AM

To:   Alexey Borzov <borz_off%rdw.ru@interlock.lexmark.com>
cc:   Bruce Momjian <pgman%candle.pha.pa.us@interlock.lexmark.com>, Tim Barnard
      <tbarnard%povn.com@interlock.lexmark.com>,
      pgsql-general%postgresql.org@interlock.lexmark.com (bcc: Wesley
      Sheldahl/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  [GENERAL] Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)


On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:04:11AM +0400,
  Alexey Borzov <borz_off@rdw.ru> wrote:
>
> Will you be even kinder and enlighten us, mere users, on the features
> planned for this release? ;

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/todo.html

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Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 08:24:31AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> >> Will you be even kinder and enlighten us, mere users, on the
> >> features planned for this release?  ;
> >
> > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/todo.html
>
> I notice the "urgent" item for point-in-time recovery doesn't have
> the '-' indicating a 7.2 item.
>
> When is that planned?

I hope for 7.2.

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Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
>> I notice the "urgent" item for point-in-time recovery doesn't have
>> the '-' indicating a 7.2 item.
>>
>> When is that planned?

> I hope for 7.2.

What grounds do you have for hoping that?  If there's anyone working
on it, they're sure keeping a mighty low profile.

Given that we're hoping to go beta in another six weeks or so, anything
that's not got a commitment from someone now is unlikely to be finished
for 7.2.  I don't believe that anything as large as PIT recovery is
going to magically appear out of the woodwork.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> >> I notice the "urgent" item for point-in-time recovery doesn't have
> >> the '-' indicating a 7.2 item.
> >>
> >> When is that planned?
>
> > I hope for 7.2.
>
> What grounds do you have for hoping that?  If there's anyone working
> on it, they're sure keeping a mighty low profile.
>
> Given that we're hoping to go beta in another six weeks or so, anything
> that's not got a commitment from someone now is unlikely to be finished
> for 7.2.  I don't believe that anything as large as PIT recovery is
> going to magically appear out of the woodwork.

Someone told me they would do it.  I will not disclose their name
because I don't think I have the right to do that.

I haven't heard from them in a while.  Let's just assume the feature
will not be in 7.2 then.

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Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> >> ... I don't believe that anything as large as PIT recovery is
> >> going to magically appear out of the woodwork.
>
> > Someone told me they would do it.  I will not disclose their name
> > because I don't think I have the right to do that.
>
> And if "hacker X" delivers a patch that large a week or so before beta,
> with no prior discussion of features or implementation techniques on
> the mailing lists, we'd accept it?  Hacker X needs to be told that
> that's not how this project is run.

I hope "hacker X" is listening.  :-)

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Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
>> ... I don't believe that anything as large as PIT recovery is
>> going to magically appear out of the woodwork.

> Someone told me they would do it.  I will not disclose their name
> because I don't think I have the right to do that.

And if "hacker X" delivers a patch that large a week or so before beta,
with no prior discussion of features or implementation techniques on
the mailing lists, we'd accept it?  Hacker X needs to be told that
that's not how this project is run.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Re: Pg7.2 (was: vacuum and 24/7 uptime)

From
Micah Yoder
Date:
> I would like to request one more feature of course:  support for ALTER
> TABLE tablename MODIFY columnname [create clause] would make my life much

and ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN!  I see it's on the list, just not apparently for
7.2.  Oh well I guess you can only do so much.  Postgres really is great!
When ALL the features on that list are implemented, it will really kick some
serious MS arse!  Am wondering how long that will take...

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