Thread: Re: hang on (was: New Book: PostgreSQL: The Elephant Never Forgets)
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Hello, > > We had offered communication to Great Bridge without much reply. Our > intention was to include the downloadable version of the software and > possibly some other things if Great Bridge agrees. I guess that's what's confusing. Why does GB have to agree to let you distribute software that's from the PostgreSQL Global Development Group? Vince. > > Joshua Drake > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ned Lilly wrote: > > > This is news to me, and does not represent any action taken by Great > > Bridge. We'll be talking with Joshua Drake directly, then report back > > to the list. > > > > > > > > Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Joshua Drake wrote: > > > > > >> Open Docs Publishing has announced today that they plan to release their > > >> sixth book entitled "Learning PostgreSQL: The Elephant Never Forgets" by > > >> the first week of June. This title will include PostgreSQL Great Bridge > > >> version 7.1 (The Linux World Editors winner for Best Database in 2000). > > > > > > > > > WTFI "PostgreSQL Great Bridge version 7.1" ????? Is GB putting out > > > their own releases now? Ned? Bruce? > > > > > > Vince. > > > > > > > > -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ==========================================================================
Re: Re: hang on (was: New Book: PostgreSQL: The Elephant Never Forgets)
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > We had offered communication to Great Bridge without much reply. Our > > intention was to include the downloadable version of the software and > > possibly some other things if Great Bridge agrees. > > I guess that's what's confusing. Why does GB have to agree to let you > distribute software that's from the PostgreSQL Global Development Group? Definitely a very very good point ... Joshua, you are free to include *any* version of PgSQL with your book ... nobody needs to get permission from anyone to do so, never have needed, never will need ... its open source software ... > > Vince. > > > > > > > Joshua Drake > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ned Lilly wrote: > > > > > This is news to me, and does not represent any action taken by Great > > > Bridge. We'll be talking with Joshua Drake directly, then report back > > > to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Joshua Drake wrote: > > > > > > > >> Open Docs Publishing has announced today that they plan to release their > > > >> sixth book entitled "Learning PostgreSQL: The Elephant Never Forgets" by > > > >> the first week of June. This title will include PostgreSQL Great Bridge > > > >> version 7.1 (The Linux World Editors winner for Best Database in 2000). > > > > > > > > > > > > WTFI "PostgreSQL Great Bridge version 7.1" ????? Is GB putting out > > > > their own releases now? Ned? Bruce? > > > > > > > > Vince. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ========================================================================== > Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net > 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking > Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com > Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com > ========================================================================== > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > http://www.postgresql.org/search.mpl > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
Yes, yes, of course. Let's all take a deep breath. This was just miscommunication on Joshua's part. His company is publishing a Postgres book, which we should all be very happy about. To be clear: He doesn't need anyone's permission to distribute Postgres, ours or anyone else's. He knows that - he's been using the software since Postgres95. And we know it too - Great Bridge has been 100% open source from the get-go, and always will be. I daresay just about everyone on this list knows it. Joshua should have talked with us before bandying about our name in a press release (there were factual errors in it, as well as the mis-use of our brand). We've talked with him, he's apologized, and we're convinced it was just an honest mistake. Let's put this one to bed, please. Non-issue. Thanks, Ned The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > We had offered communication to Great Bridge without much reply. Our > > > intention was to include the downloadable version of the software and > > > possibly some other things if Great Bridge agrees. > > > > I guess that's what's confusing. Why does GB have to agree to let you > > distribute software that's from the PostgreSQL Global Development Group? > > Definitely a very very good point ... Joshua, you are free to include > *any* version of PgSQL with your book ... nobody needs to get permission > from anyone to do so, never have needed, never will need ... its open > source software ... > > > > Vince. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Drake > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ned Lilly wrote: > > > > > > > This is news to me, and does not represent any action taken by Great > > > > Bridge. We'll be talking with Joshua Drake directly, then report back > > > > to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Joshua Drake wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Open Docs Publishing has announced today that they plan to release their > > > > >> sixth book entitled "Learning PostgreSQL: The Elephant Never Forgets" by > > > > >> the first week of June. This title will include PostgreSQL Great Bridge > > > > >> version 7.1 (The Linux World Editors winner for Best Database in 2000). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WTFI "PostgreSQL Great Bridge version 7.1" ????? Is GB putting out > > > > > their own releases now? Ned? Bruce? > > > > > > > > > > Vince. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ========================================================================== > > Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com http://www.pop4.net > > 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking > > Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com > > Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com > > ========================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/search.mpl > > > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
> > > > I guess that's what's confusing. Why does GB have to agree to let you > > distribute software that's from the PostgreSQL Global Development Group? > > Definitely a very very good point ... Joshua, you are free to include > *any* version of PgSQL with your book ... nobody needs to get permission > from anyone to do so, never have needed, never will need ... its open > source software ... Hello, I would like to note, before there is any miscommunication that GB was only concerned with the way the name was presented. E.g; PostgreSQL Great Bridge version 7.1 The only thing that have requested is that we be more clear about the product by stating: Great Bridge PostgreSQL version 7.1. I believe they have a valid point in want to protect their name. On the flip side, I hope that you guys find the book we are developing a useful one. J -- -- <COMPANY>CommandPrompt - http://www.commandprompt.com </COMPANY> <PROJECT>OpenDocs, LLC. - http://www.opendocs.org </PROJECT> <PROJECT>LinuxPorts - http://www.linuxports.com </PROJECT> <WEBMASTER>LDP - http://www.linuxdoc.org </WEBMASTER> -- Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom. --