Thread: Another cool program that uses postgresql
Here: http://www.cryptnet.net/fsp/zipdy/ It would be cool to someday have a listing of links to programs that are PG-based. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Josh Berkus wrote: > Here: > > http://www.cryptnet.net/fsp/zipdy/ > > It would be cool to someday have a listing of links to programs that are > PG-based. What's I'd like to see is more projects listed on gborg, even if it provides a link to the main project site like with the ODBC driver, but it provides a list of 'postgresql related software' ... kinda like a freshmeat for PostgreSQL ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Marc G. Fournier writes: > What's I'd like to see is more projects listed on gborg, even if it > provides a link to the main project site like with the ODBC driver, but it > provides a list of 'postgresql related software' ... kinda like a > freshmeat for PostgreSQL ... I think it might be more suitable and less confusing if there was in fact a freshmeat (in addition to a sourceforge) for PostgreSQL. -- Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Marc G. Fournier writes: > > > What's I'd like to see is more projects listed on gborg, even if it > > provides a link to the main project site like with the ODBC driver, but it > > provides a list of 'postgresql related software' ... kinda like a > > freshmeat for PostgreSQL ... > > I think it might be more suitable and less confusing if there was in fact > a freshmeat (in addition to a sourceforge) for PostgreSQL. k, what does it take to set one up? re: sourceforge ... are you suggesting replacing gborg with sourceforge code though? is gborg itself *that* broken that it can't be extended to do what we want? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Saturday 22 November 2003 14:17, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > Marc G. Fournier writes:
> > > What's I'd like to see is more projects listed on gborg, even if it
> > > provides a link to the main project site like with the ODBC driver, but
> > > it provides a list of 'postgresql related software' ... kinda like a
> > > freshmeat for PostgreSQL ...
> >
> > I think it might be more suitable and less confusing if there was in fact
> > a freshmeat (in addition to a sourceforge) for PostgreSQL.
>
> k, what does it take to set one up?
>
> re: sourceforge ... are you suggesting replacing gborg with sourceforge
> code though? is gborg itself *that* broken that it can't be extended to
> do what we want?
>
I don't know that it's broken, but switching to gforge would certainly give us
more advanced software that would also be maintained by people completly
outside our community. Given our tight resources, this is certainly a bonus.
Robert Treat
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Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote: > On Saturday 22 November 2003 14:17, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > > Marc G. Fournier writes: > > > > What's I'd like to see is more projects listed on gborg, even if it > > > > provides a link to the main project site like with the ODBC driver, but > > > > it provides a list of 'postgresql related software' ... kinda like a > > > > freshmeat for PostgreSQL ... > > > > > > I think it might be more suitable and less confusing if there was in fact > > > a freshmeat (in addition to a sourceforge) for PostgreSQL. > > > > k, what does it take to set one up? > > > > re: sourceforge ... are you suggesting replacing gborg with sourceforge > > code though? is gborg itself *that* broken that it can't be extended to > > do what we want? > > > > I don't know that it's broken, but switching to gforge would certainly > give us more advanced software that would also be maintained by people > completly outside our community. Given our tight resources, this is > certainly a bonus. 'k, do you have anyone in mind who is willing to set up, and admin, it? I don't imagine its the sort of thing that runs itself, is it? can it run within the same VM as www.postgresql.org, or are there security reasons why it shouldn't? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Saturday 22 November 2003 18:53, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 November 2003 14:17, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> > > > Marc G. Fournier writes:
> > > > > What's I'd like to see is more projects listed on gborg, even if it
> > > > > provides a link to the main project site like with the ODBC driver,
> > > > > but it provides a list of 'postgresql related software' ... kinda
> > > > > like a freshmeat for PostgreSQL ...
> > > >
> > > > I think it might be more suitable and less confusing if there was in
> > > > fact a freshmeat (in addition to a sourceforge) for PostgreSQL.
> > >
> > > k, what does it take to set one up?
> > >
> > > re: sourceforge ... are you suggesting replacing gborg with sourceforge
> > > code though? is gborg itself *that* broken that it can't be extended
> > > to do what we want?
> >
> > I don't know that it's broken, but switching to gforge would certainly
> > give us more advanced software that would also be maintained by people
> > completly outside our community. Given our tight resources, this is
> > certainly a bonus.
>
> 'k, do you have anyone in mind who is willing to set up, and admin, it?
> I don't imagine its the sort of thing that runs itself, is it? can it run
> within the same VM as www.postgresql.org, or are there security reasons
> why it shouldn't?
>
Well that is always the question isnt it? I'd be willing to try to install
it, I'm not sure of it's compatibility with bsd, but we might be able to get
Tim Purdue to help us out. The problem is I'm pretty loaded up now, so it
seems tough to believe I would have time to maintain it...course maybe it
doesn't need a lot of maintainance... I'm guessing it needs to live on its
own vm for all the reasons gborg needs to be on its own.
Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote: > Well that is always the question isnt it? I'd be willing to try to > install it, I'm not sure of it's compatibility with bsd, but we might be > able to get Tim Purdue to help us out. The problem is I'm pretty loaded > up now, so it seems tough to believe I would have time to maintain > it...course maybe it doesn't need a lot of maintainance... I'm guessing > it needs to live on its own vm for all the reasons gborg needs to be on > its own. Well, install is easy, as its in FreeBSD ports: drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 Nov 22 20:46 www/gforge sudo to root in the VM, cd /usr/ports/www/gforge, make install ... take a quick look at the Makefile, as there are several options for the install ... WITH_JABBER, WITH_MAILMAN but there doesn't appear to be anything that stipulates the backend, so I'm guessing it is something that just relies on what is compiled into PHP? what do you want me to setup as DNS for this? virtual host wise? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Marc G. Fournier writes: > re: sourceforge ... are you suggesting replacing gborg with sourceforge > code though? is gborg itself *that* broken that it can't be extended to > do what we want? Not at all. I'm just referring to "freshmeat" and "sourcefourge" as web site genre names. We need a "slashdot" as well. -- Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net
Peter, > Not at all. I'm just referring to "freshmeat" and "sourcefourge" as web > site genre names. We need a "slashdot" as well. Do we? This is one thing I hadn't heard demand for ... it would certainly be easy to implement. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Mon, 2003-11-24 at 13:27, Josh Berkus wrote: > Peter, > > > Not at all. I'm just referring to "freshmeat" and "sourcefourge" as web > > site genre names. We need a "slashdot" as well. > > Do we? This is one thing I hadn't heard demand for ... it would certainly be > easy to implement. Actually, we have a Slashdot -- the main portal page. What we need is for people (myself included) to start submitting things.
Josh Berkus writes: > > Not at all. I'm just referring to "freshmeat" and "sourcefourge" as web > > site genre names. We need a "slashdot" as well. > > Do we? This is one thing I hadn't heard demand for ... it would certainly be > easy to implement. I would like to see it as a replacement of the news listing on the front page. In my opinion, the front page should anwer elementary questions such as "Who are we?", "Why are we on your screen?", "What is the latest release?" (compare debian.org, kde.org). Items such as "Beta 3 of plPHP released" should really go somewhere else. The feedback aspect of "slashdot" would be interesting in many cases as well, but it might also get out of hand. Another area that this would cover is news syndication. How many times do you see something like "Foo Magazine Article mentions PostgreSQL" posted to a mailing list? This could be summarized there. Then finally, provide an RSS feed so people can read the headlines from anywhere (including Slashdot!). -- Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Another area that this would cover is news syndication. How many times > do you see something like "Foo Magazine Article mentions PostgreSQL" > posted to a mailing list? This could be summarized there. This one I've love to see more of ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 19:46, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Robert Treat wrote:
>
> > Well that is always the question isnt it? I'd be willing to try to
> > install it, I'm not sure of it's compatibility with bsd, but we might be
> > able to get Tim Purdue to help us out. The problem is I'm pretty loaded
> > up now, so it seems tough to believe I would have time to maintain
> > it...course maybe it doesn't need a lot of maintainance... I'm guessing
> > it needs to live on its own vm for all the reasons gborg needs to be on
> > its own.
>
> Well, install is easy, as its in FreeBSD ports:
>
> drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 Nov 22 20:46 www/gforge
>
> sudo to root in the VM, cd /usr/ports/www/gforge, make install ... take a
> quick look at the Makefile, as there are several options for the install
> ...
>
> WITH_JABBER, WITH_MAILMAN
>
jabber is for IM type capabilities, mailman for hosting mailing lists. I
think those are the only two optional components. the backend rquires
php and postgresql.
> but there doesn't appear to be anything that stipulates the backend, so
> I'm guessing it is something that just relies on what is compiled into
> PHP?
>
> what do you want me to setup as DNS for this? virtual host wise?
>
either gforge. or maybe projects., though that might be a bit ahead of
ourselves...
Robert Treat
--
Build A Brighter Lamp :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
| either gforge. or maybe projects., though that might be a bit ahead of I have set up Gforge and it is a bit of a pain to get running but it seems to be a nice project. However it also seems to be something that should not run on a VM and should run on its own machine. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake >ourselves... > >Robert Treat > > -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - jd@commandprompt.com - http://www.commandprompt.com Mammoth PostgreSQL Replicator. Integrated Replication for PostgreSQL
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > | either gforge. or maybe projects., though that might be a bit ahead of > > I have set up Gforge and it is a bit of a pain to get running but it seems > to be a nice project. However it also seems to be something that > should not run on a VM and should run on its own machine. Why? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
>>to be a nice project. However it also seems to be something that >>should not run on a VM and should run on its own machine. >> >> > >Why? > > > Just from a resource perspective. Oh and it would be great to see a PostgreSQL site on Linux ;) Sincerely, Joshua Drake >---- >Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) >Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 > > -- Command Prompt, Inc., home of Mammoth PostgreSQL - S/ODBC and S/JDBC Postgresql support, programming shared hosting and dedicated hosting. +1-503-667-4564 - jd@commandprompt.com - http://www.commandprompt.com Mammoth PostgreSQL Replicator. Integrated Replication for PostgreSQL
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > >>to be a nice project. However it also seems to be something that > >>should not run on a VM and should run on its own machine. > >> > >> > > > >Why? > > > > > > > Just from a resource perspective. if gforge.postgresql.org ever grows to the point that I'm worried about resources, we'll worry about a dedicated server then :) but I can't see that happening for several months, as getting ppl to use it will be the hardest part ... I've built gforge.postgresql.org as a dedicated VM, though, since it seems to have a thing with 'shell users' that I don't think would give a warm feeling to have on the www.postgresql.org VM :) working through configuration of it right now ... hope to have it up before end of day today, at least in its "base configuration" ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
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> What's I'd like to see is more projects listed on gborg, even if it
> provides a link to the main project site like with the ODBC driver, but
> it provides a list of 'postgresql related software' ... kinda like a
> freshmeat for PostgreSQL ...
There should be two main categories:
1. Software that depends on PostgreSQL and is not compatible with
any other database engine.
2. Software that has PostgreSQL as one of the database engine
configuration options among many others (e.g., support for PostgreSQL,
Oracle, or MySQL, etc.).
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