Thread: Year of the Open-Source Database
A story in newsfactor.com. Very pro mysql. http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/22685.html Rgs, Jussi
Użytkownik Jussi Mikkola napisał: > A story in newsfactor.com. Very pro mysql. > > http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/22685.html It is another story, which don't ask both sides - there are only opinions from MySQL team and they are totaly out of mind if they think that: ...."In the landscape of Oracle and DB2 and SQL Server, MySQL and Postgres are relatively in the same ballpark"... But it also an excellent example of MySQL's marketing actions...
Guys, > It is another story, which don't ask both sides - there are only > opinions from MySQL team and they are totaly out of mind if they think FWIW, Newsfactor is not a real "publication"; they are a news clearinghouse for any random stringer* who wants to submit stories, and pay some tiny fee per article (like, say, $30). As a result, their quality control is non-existant. Given that the reporter didn't contact us, we're lucky we got a mention at all. If anyone can get the reporter's e-mail, I'd be interested in offering our help for future articles. Please, everyone, remember that it is never, ever, effective to criticize a reporter. "sub selects" indeed! "We all query in a yellow database, a yellow database ...." (Actually, MySQL has reason to be ticked about this article as well, they got subselects in 4.0) * stringer = low-paid freelance reporter. Generally gets paid by the word or line. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jussi Mikkola wrote: > A story in newsfactor.com. Very pro mysql. > > http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/22685.html Sixth paragraph. ... Postgres (formally known as "PostgreSQL") ... Did I miss something here? I always thought it was the other way around. Rod -- "Open Source Software - Sometimes you get more than you paid for..."
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:19:47AM -0800, Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
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> ... Postgres (formally known as "PostgreSQL") ...
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> Did I miss something here? I always thought it was the other way around.
It's one of the historic problems, actaully. Postgres was a database
product that used PostQUEL. When SQL got put in, Postgres85 was
born, and soon renamed PostgreSQL to highlight its SQL capabilities.
But it's a mouthful. So people might correctly say, "Postgres
(formally known as 'PostgreSQL' and formerly 'Postgres')." But it
would cause grave confusion and general unhappiness.
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > It's one of the historic problems, actaully. Postgres was a database > product that used PostQUEL. When SQL got put in, Postgres85 was > born, and soon renamed PostgreSQL to highlight its SQL capabilities. > But it's a mouthful. So people might correctly say, "Postgres > (formally known as 'PostgreSQL' and formerly 'Postgres')." But it > would cause grave confusion and general unhappiness. Well that does add some confusion. The reason I even mentioned it was because of a message/thread earlier this month (last month?) about Postgres vs. PostgreSQL. It is a mouthful for sure and I find myself slurring the QL so it comes out mostly as Postgres (unless I've had a few pints then I drool the last :-). Rod -- "Open Source Software - Sometimes you get more than you paid for..."
BTW - I did submit some feedback on this article at the site, pointing
out some of the error/omissions, but I never saw it show up... :-(
Robert Treat
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 11:28, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Guys,
>
> > It is another story, which don't ask both sides - there are only
> > opinions from MySQL team and they are totaly out of mind if they think
>
> FWIW, Newsfactor is not a real "publication"; they are a news clearinghouse
> for any random stringer* who wants to submit stories, and pay some tiny fee
> per article (like, say, $30). As a result, their quality control is
> non-existant.
>
> Given that the reporter didn't contact us, we're lucky we got a mention at
> all. If anyone can get the reporter's e-mail, I'd be interested in offering
> our help for future articles. Please, everyone, remember that it is never,
> ever, effective to criticize a reporter.
>
> "sub selects" indeed! "We all query in a yellow database, a yellow database
> ...." (Actually, MySQL has reason to be ticked about this article as well,
> they got subselects in 4.0)
>
> * stringer = low-paid freelance reporter. Generally gets paid by the word or
> line.
>
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> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
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> Given that the reporter didn't contact us, we're lucky we got a mention at > all. If anyone can get the reporter's e-mail, I'd be interested in offering > our help for future articles. Please, everyone, remember that it is never, > ever, effective to criticize a reporter. > > "sub selects" indeed! "We all query in a yellow database, a yellow database > ...." (Actually, MySQL has reason to be ticked about this article as well, > they got subselects in 4.0) Er - no they didn't. Subselects a are an alpha feature of the unreleased 4.1 version. Chris
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 greg@turnstep.com wrote: > No, they are correct. You are thinking of "formerly." They mean > "formally" as in the non-abbreviated proper name. Well I really need to get a bigger monitor or better eyes. You're right. Thanks for 'clearing' this up for me. Rod -- "Open Source Software - Sometimes you get more than you paid for..."