Thread: Anybody here?
Hey, Anyone home? Justin? -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > > Hey, > > Anyone home? Justin? Hi Josh, :) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > -- > -Josh Berkus > Aglio Database Solutions > San Francisco > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
Justin, Who else is here? You don't need my introduction, but here it goes: Hi! I'm Josh Berkus. I've been using PostgreSQL professionally for over 2 years, and I've been the Marketing Lead for the OpenOffice.org project for the last year-and-a-half. I'd like to help out with Postgres Advocacy, particularly dealing with the Press, which I enjoy in a masochistic kinda way. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > > Justin, > > Who else is here? You don't need my introduction, but here it goes: Um, Bruce Momjian is here. Robert Treat is here, Shridhar Daithankar should have confirmed his subscription to pgsql-advoacy by now, a couple of others at least too. :) > Hi! I'm Josh Berkus. I've been using PostgreSQL professionally for over 2 > years, and I've been the Marketing Lead for the OpenOffice.org project for > the last year-and-a-half. And doing a decent job too. :) > I'd like to help out with Postgres Advocacy, particularly dealing with the > Press, which I enjoy in a masochistic kinda way. Hey, that's my Gig! :-p Heh Heh Heh For a different tact, am thinking we should probably start organising language-specific contacts. Not country based ones at the moment (am pretty sure things aren't ready for that just yet), but definitely language based ones. After launching the Advocacy site, within about 72 hours we had offers to translated it into German, French, Polish, Finnish, Brazilian Portuguese, Italian, Swedish, and another I think (exactly which is eluding me just now). Thoughts? :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > -- > -Josh Berkus > Aglio Database Solutions > San Francisco -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
On Mon, 2002-10-07 at 14:58, Justin Clift wrote: > After launching the Advocacy site, within about 72 hours we had offers > to translated it into German, French, Polish, Finnish, Brazilian > Portuguese, Italian, Swedish, and another I think (exactly which is > eluding me just now). > > Thoughts? > I thought I saw someone (you?) post that you had a spanish translator. If you don't and we can't find one, I could probably do it, though I am not a native speaker. Robert Treat
Robert Treat wrote: <snip> > I thought I saw someone (you?) post that you had a spanish translator. > If you don't and we can't find one, I could probably do it, though I am > not a native speaker. Just checked. :) Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@atentus.com> is the Spanish volunteer. There are about 220 lines that need to be translated from English to Spanish for the present version of the site. Perhaps you'd like to co-ordinate with Alvaro in the translation of the text strings? The Web-based interface to update text strings directory into the database is mostly in place too, but needs a bit more finesse before it'll be ready for general usage. :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > Robert Treat -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
Justin, > For a different tact, am thinking we should probably start organising > language-specific contacts. Not country based ones at the moment (am > pretty sure things aren't ready for that just yet), but definitely > language based ones. Oh, do I gotta? I hoped that I left that behind at OpenOffice.org ... > After launching the Advocacy site, within about 72 hours we had > offers > to translated it into German, French, Polish, Finnish, Brazilian > Portuguese, Italian, Swedish, and another I think (exactly which is > eluding me just now). > > Thoughts? Not much to begin with ... just create a mailing list: pgsql-advocacy-lang@postgresql.org ... all translators will subscribe to that mailing list, and we'll post announcements of new website text there. Unless you can come up with a more sophisticated web-based system, in which users can browse items needing to be translated, "check them out", download them, and the upload + update them. Also, BTW, we'd better have an press release for version 7.3. MySQL is plowing us under, mainly because they have a marketing dept and we don't ... yet. They're getting accolades for implementing features that we had 2 years ago. We need to toot our own horn ... loud. -Josh Berkus
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > Justin, > > Who else is here? You don't need my introduction, but here it goes: I'm here. Among other fairly modest claims to fame, I wrote about half of this: <http://www.icann.org/tlds/org/questions-to-applicants-13.htm#Response13TheInternetSocietyISOC> A -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@libertyrms.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x110
On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > Justin, > > Who else is here? I'm here. Shane McChesney, pleased to meet you all. (Justin, I've talked with you by email before, after you created those great Flash tutorials on Sequences and Referential Integrity.) I joined this list about a week after Josh's post above, but saw it just now in Andrew Sullivan's response. Bruce Momjian suggested I join this list after I contacted him about an idea I had... rather than rephrase all that and redundantly introduce myself, here's the core of the email I sent to Bruce: > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of > PostgreSQL by corporations. > > Yesterday I registered http://www.enterprisepgsql.com to give > myself a place to start work on the idea. There's nothing there > yet, of course, and this won't happen overnight. > > I've been promoting PostgreSQL on my weblog for some time: > > Keeping My Money Where My Mouth Is > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/23 > > Book Review: PostgreSQL Essential Reference > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/29 > > Open Source Databases Linkfest > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/30 > > A Structured Comparison Of OSDBs: Part One > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/02/01 > > I think going to a paper periodical could really help promote > PostgreSQL, and -- I can't promise anything at this stage, of > course-- perhaps even contribute financially to PostgreSQL > development down the line. > > I look at the 1994 issues of Linux Journal I recently bought on > eBay, and compare them to the LJ of today, and realize that's how I > got started with Linux: through the magazines. > > I'd like other people to have that opportunity with PostgreSQL. > > I'm not looking for any money or effort from you guys (well, maybe > the odd article down the line), just advice, context. You've been > around the project a long time, and I'm still just building my > first few apps on the database. > > Do you know of anyone else doing anything like this? A PostgreSQL > magazine / journal / zine / newsletter? Do you think I'm nuts? What > other advice would you throw out there? > > As an independent -- as in non-BigPub -- self-published project, > this would start really slow and grow as subscriptions permit. Kind > of like what Bryan Richard is doing over at Py, at > http://www.pyzine.com -- I'm holding regular counsel with Bryan for > his guidance too. > > Any thoughts that you could give would be welcome. > The weblog mentioned above has as its theme the slow but steady migration of my business from the MS universe to the Open universe. PostgreSQL is my database of choice - I haven't used it as much as I'd have liked yet, but it's where I'm headed, where I want my data to live. The idea of doing a self-published zine came out of my conversations with various people about the shortcomings of computer books (too thick, quickly out of date) and my desire to work in the print medium. I figured, as with my weblog, I might as well write about something I believe in. A first issue is months away from seeing print, of course, I'm still in the planning stage. I'm interested in knowing what the rest of the list thinks of the idea... Please don't slap me too hard. :) Thanks, Shane McChesney President, Wesearch Information Services Inc. 705-735-2587
On 22 Oct 2002 at 12:13, Shane McChesney wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Justin, > > > > Who else is here? Sorry for replying to a reply. Let me introduce myself. Shridhar Daithankar, a Software Engineer working in India. A linux enthu guy who has done some application programming on postgresql.. I guess that's enough..;-) > > > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a > > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of > > PostgreSQL by corporations. How about on the line of postgresqltoday.com? We all have plenty of things to share about.. HTH Bye Shridhar -- Phasers locked on target, Captain.
Shane, > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a > > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of > > PostgreSQL by corporations. You might want to check out Nolo Press' book, "Starting and Running a Successful Newsletter or Magazine." The real question is, how many people would pay for a PostgreSQL magazine, and how many people could you get to write articles for it? The two questions are related, since offering more money is a good way to get more articles, but you have to sell the magazine first ... -Josh Berkus
[thanks josh] On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 19:10, Josh Berkus wrote: > Shane, > > > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a > > > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of > > > PostgreSQL by corporations. > > You might want to check out Nolo Press' book, "Starting and Running a > Successful Newsletter or Magazine." > > The real question is, how many people would pay for a PostgreSQL > magazine, and how many people could you get to write articles for it? > The two questions are related, since offering more money is a good way > to get more articles, but you have to sell the magazine first ... If you're thinking about a magazine in print, I'd guess one could try to arrange to get it distributed along with an already established magazine (especially if it's only just a few pages in the beginning). But then, I don't know anything about publishing, so you'll want to ignore me :-) cheers -- vbi -- this email is protected by a digital signature http://fortytwo.ch/gpg NOTE: get my key here: http://www.google.com/search?q=mQGiBDx2a6ERBAC8l
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Hi I'm here too. Jeff MacDonald Perl/Pgsql Geek Just curious, is there a postgresql pay pal account setup ? This should be on all of the pgsql pages if one exists. Anyone remember a few years back Slashdot was sending out those postcard sized flyers to IT folks all over the place ? I wonder what that kind of thing costs.. I for one thing PostgreSQL postcards would be an awesome marketing idea.. pass them out at conferences, send to the random folks etc.. jeff. > -----Original Message----- > From: pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org > [mailto:pgsql-advocacy-owner@postgresql.org]On Behalf Of Adrian > 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:05 PM > To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Anybody here? > > > [thanks josh] > > On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 19:10, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Shane, > > > > > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a > > > > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of > > > > PostgreSQL by corporations. > > > > You might want to check out Nolo Press' book, "Starting and Running a > > Successful Newsletter or Magazine." > > > > The real question is, how many people would pay for a PostgreSQL > > magazine, and how many people could you get to write articles for it? > > The two questions are related, since offering more money is a good way > > to get more articles, but you have to sell the magazine first ... > > If you're thinking about a magazine in print, I'd guess one could try to > arrange to get it distributed along with an already established magazine > (especially if it's only just a few pages in the beginning). > > But then, I don't know anything about publishing, so you'll want to > ignore me :-) > > cheers > -- vbi > > -- > this email is protected by a digital signature http://fortytwo.ch/gpg > > NOTE: get my key here: http://www.google.com/search?q=mQGiBDx2a6ERBAC8l >
I like the idea of a 'zine. That would be great. Something I had been thinking about recently was a "column" of sorts with items from pgsql-general. That list is too big to follow closely, but it is full of useful tidbits. I could write such a column or perhaps several of us could work together to produce such a column. It would be easier with several people since we are all working on our own projects as well. elein@norcov.com On Tuesday 22 October 2002 09:13, Shane McChesney wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > > Justin, > > > > Who else is here? > > I'm here. Shane McChesney, pleased to meet you all. (Justin, I've > talked with you by email before, after you created those great Flash > tutorials on Sequences and Referential Integrity.) > > I joined this list about a week after Josh's post above, but saw it > just now in Andrew Sullivan's response. > > Bruce Momjian suggested I join this list after I contacted him about > an idea I had... rather than rephrase all that and redundantly > > introduce myself, here's the core of the email I sent to Bruce: > > I'm considering self-publishing a PostgreSQL magazine. Well, a > > "zine", really, or a technical journal, to promote the adoption of > > PostgreSQL by corporations. > > > > Yesterday I registered http://www.enterprisepgsql.com to give > > myself a place to start work on the idea. There's nothing there > > yet, of course, and this won't happen overnight. > > > > I've been promoting PostgreSQL on my weblog for some time: > > > > Keeping My Money Where My Mouth Is > > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/23 > > > > Book Review: PostgreSQL Essential Reference > > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/29 > > > > Open Source Databases Linkfest > > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/01/30 > > > > A Structured Comparison Of OSDBs: Part One > > http://www.skippingdot.net/2002/02/01 > > > > I think going to a paper periodical could really help promote > > PostgreSQL, and -- I can't promise anything at this stage, of > > course-- perhaps even contribute financially to PostgreSQL > > development down the line. > > > > I look at the 1994 issues of Linux Journal I recently bought on > > eBay, and compare them to the LJ of today, and realize that's how I > > got started with Linux: through the magazines. > > > > I'd like other people to have that opportunity with PostgreSQL. > > > > I'm not looking for any money or effort from you guys (well, maybe > > the odd article down the line), just advice, context. You've been > > around the project a long time, and I'm still just building my > > first few apps on the database. > > > > Do you know of anyone else doing anything like this? A PostgreSQL > > magazine / journal / zine / newsletter? Do you think I'm nuts? What > > other advice would you throw out there? > > > > As an independent -- as in non-BigPub -- self-published project, > > this would start really slow and grow as subscriptions permit. Kind > > of like what Bryan Richard is doing over at Py, at > > http://www.pyzine.com -- I'm holding regular counsel with Bryan for > > his guidance too. > > > > Any thoughts that you could give would be welcome. > > The weblog mentioned above has as its theme the slow but steady > migration of my business from the MS universe to the Open universe. > PostgreSQL is my database of choice - I haven't used it as much as > I'd have liked yet, but it's where I'm headed, where I want my data > to live. > > The idea of doing a self-published zine came out of my conversations > with various people about the shortcomings of computer books (too > thick, quickly out of date) and my desire to work in the print > medium. > > I figured, as with my weblog, I might as well write about something I > believe in. > > A first issue is months away from seeing print, of course, I'm still > in the planning stage. > > I'm interested in knowing what the rest of the list thinks of the > idea... Please don't slap me too hard. :) > > Thanks, > > Shane McChesney > President, > Wesearch Information Services Inc. > 705-735-2587 > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to majordomo@postgresql.org
Hi,
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 11:46:48AM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Justin,
>
> Who else is here?
I'm here, too. ;)
I'm from Turkey. Currently maintaining Turkish translation of Advocacy
site and hosting official mirror of techdocs site.
Also, presenting lots of PostgreSQL seminars all around the country. My
main aim is to convince government departments to use PostgreSQL mode and
more. In addition to them, published Turkish PostreSQL tutorials.
Also, I'm trying to form a "Turkish PostgreSQL Users' Society".
Thanks a lot to Justin, for assisting me a lot since I've known him.
Regards.
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Devrim GUNDUZ
devrim@oper.metu.edu.tr Tel : (312) 295 9318
devrim.gunduz@linux.org.tr Faks : (312) 295 9494
Web : http://devrim.oper.metu.edu.tr
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