Thread: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
David Carlos Manuelda
Date:
I upgraded to version 1.8.3, with spanish selected as always, but now,
spanish language have dissappeared completelly, being replaced by
catalonian language.

My system's locale is:
LANG=es_ES
LC_CTYPE="es_ES.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC="es_ES.utf8"
LC_TIME="es_ES.utf8"
LC_COLLATE="es_ES.utf8"
LC_MONETARY="es_ES.utf8"
LC_MESSAGES="es_ES.utf8"
LC_PAPER="es_ES.utf8"
LC_NAME="es_ES.utf8"
LC_ADDRESS="es_ES.utf8"
LC_TELEPHONE="es_ES.utf8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="es_ES.utf8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_ES.utf8"
LC_ALL=es_ES.utf8

(Notice the LANG=es_ES and not ca_ES), so it should display Spanish
language. Furthermore, in options, Spanish is selected as language.



Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Guillaume Lelarge
Date:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 19:17 +0200, David Carlos Manuelda wrote:
> I upgraded to version 1.8.3, with spanish selected as always, but now,
> spanish language have dissappeared completelly, being replaced by
> catalonian language.
> 
> My system's locale is:
> LANG=es_ES
> LC_CTYPE="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_NUMERIC="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_TIME="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_COLLATE="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_MONETARY="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_MESSAGES="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_PAPER="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_NAME="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_ADDRESS="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_ES.utf8"
> LC_ALL=es_ES.utf8
> 
> (Notice the LANG=es_ES and not ca_ES), so it should display Spanish
> language. Furthermore, in options, Spanish is selected as language.
> 

Yeah, that was my mistake. I fixed it a few days ago, and it'll be in
the next minor release.


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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
jbru
Date:
This is just imposible for me to believe that this is just a mistake. 




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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Guillaume Lelarge
Date:
Please keep the replies on the mailing list.

On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 15:45 +0200, Juan Bru wrote:
> It means exactly  what it means.
> I do think I was quite clear. 
> 

Actually, no, you aren't clear on what you're impliying.

Seeing how it goes, I'm not sure I give a damn though. This was a
mistake I made, I fixed it, end of the story for me.


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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Guillaume Lelarge
Date:
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 15:40 -0700, jbru wrote:
> This is just imposible for me to believe that this is just a mistake. 
> 

Which means?


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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
jbru
Date:
Anyways,

Is there a delivery date for the fixed release???



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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Guillaume Lelarge
Date:
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 11:43 -0700, jbru wrote:
> Anyways,
> 
> Is there a delivery date for the fixed release???
> 

No. 1.18.1 will be available at the same time than the next PostgreSQL
minor releases.


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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
jbru
Date:
Dear Guillaume

As a 10 years PostgreSQL/pgAdmin user at different levels, I am completely
disappointed with this situation. 

Most of people has not the knowledge for patching. 
I can not figure out what happened if the mistake was in English or French.
A so simple problem (or at least I understood this from your explanation)
but which has a so huge impact (Spanish  is a quite used language) has to be
managed in a better way. 

I hope you understand I'd like to claim this at higher level. Could yo
please, let me know the process to do it???



All the best. 





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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, jbru <juan_bru@yahoo.es> wrote:
> Dear Guillaume
>
> As a 10 years PostgreSQL/pgAdmin user at different levels, I am completely
> disappointed with this situation.
>
> Most of people has not the knowledge for patching.
> I can not figure out what happened if the mistake was in English or French.
> A so simple problem (or at least I understood this from your explanation)
> but which has a so huge impact (Spanish  is a quite used language) has to be
> managed in a better way.
>
> I hope you understand I'd like to claim this at higher level. Could yo
> please, let me know the process to do it???

You're completely disappointed that a volunteer to a free software
project made a simple (and easy to make) mistake once in the 10+ years
he's been doing a particular task? Personally, I'd rather thank
Guillaume for all the effort he's put in to the project that everyone
benefits from, than chastise him because he made an error that wasn't
spotted in the release candidate build by any of the people
volunteering their time by testing.

If you wish to make pgAdmin better and avoid this kind of
once-in-a-decade mistake, then you're more than welcome to help out
with the pre-release testing.

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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Guillaume Lelarge
Date:
On Sun, 2013-09-29 at 13:35 +0000, Dave Page wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, jbru <juan_bru@yahoo.es> wrote:
> > Dear Guillaume
> >
> > As a 10 years PostgreSQL/pgAdmin user at different levels, I am completely
> > disappointed with this situation.
> >
> > Most of people has not the knowledge for patching.
> > I can not figure out what happened if the mistake was in English or French.
> > A so simple problem (or at least I understood this from your explanation)
> > but which has a so huge impact (Spanish  is a quite used language) has to be
> > managed in a better way.
> >
> > I hope you understand I'd like to claim this at higher level. Could yo
> > please, let me know the process to do it???
> 
> You're completely disappointed that a volunteer to a free software
> project made a simple (and easy to make) mistake once in the 10+ years
> he's been doing a particular task? Personally, I'd rather thank
> Guillaume for all the effort he's put in to the project that everyone
> benefits from, than chastise him because he made an error that wasn't
> spotted in the release candidate build by any of the people
> volunteering their time by testing.
> 

Thanks, Dave.

Just to add a little something, you can download this

http://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=pgadmin3.git;a=blob;f=i18n/es_ES/pgadmin3.mo;h=8cd58472207382b4f72d0264b0ebd90db66e87d4;hb=34c9253712cdc1d370b3c1ab4f77a342194d3380
and replace your es_ES/pgadmin3.mo with it. Your pgadmin should now
speak spanish.


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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
jbru
Date:
Dave,

Do you represent EnterpriseDB in this post?





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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:03 PM, jbru <juan_bru@yahoo.es> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Do you represent EnterpriseDB in this post?

No, I represent myself, the pgAdmin project lead.

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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
jbru
Date:
Do you have a boss?






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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Dave Page
Date:
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM, jbru <juan_bru@yahoo.es> wrote:
> Do you have a boss?

For anything related to pgAdmin? No.

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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
Raymond O'Donnell
Date:
On 29/09/2013 14:35, Dave Page wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, jbru <juan_bru@yahoo.es> wrote:
>> Dear Guillaume
>>
>> As a 10 years PostgreSQL/pgAdmin user at different levels, I am completely
>> disappointed with this situation.
>>
>> Most of people has not the knowledge for patching.
>> I can not figure out what happened if the mistake was in English or French.
>> A so simple problem (or at least I understood this from your explanation)
>> but which has a so huge impact (Spanish  is a quite used language) has to be
>> managed in a better way.
>>
>> I hope you understand I'd like to claim this at higher level. Could yo
>> please, let me know the process to do it???
> 
> You're completely disappointed that a volunteer to a free software
> project made a simple (and easy to make) mistake once in the 10+ years
> he's been doing a particular task? Personally, I'd rather thank
> Guillaume for all the effort he's put in to the project that everyone
> benefits from, than chastise him because he made an error that wasn't

+1000 to this. Guillaume, Dave and many others whose names never appear
on this list volunteer a huge amount of their own time to make pgAdmin
the great tool that it is, with little or no thanks for it. PgAdmin is
the result of a community effort, not a corporate enterprise.

Ray.

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Re: Spanish language missing in pgadmin 1.8.3

From
jbru
Date:
Dear Ray,

In this world, nothing is for free... ;-)
Anyways, I regret all this guys working for nothing, delivering this great
tool, 
what a surprise...with the huge business is moving PostgreSQL...I do really
regret this....but this is not my fault. Anyways, I never claim against
them, nor against their work (I love PostgreSQL and pgadmin). 

Take care.

PS: All you are winning the discussion: we are close to forget the real
problem, PostgreSQL cannot be installed in Spanish(without patching)...how
many people are with the same problem and just removes it and changes to
MySQL, MSSQL Sever or.....ORACLE!!!!! anyways...who cares...

I'm full, take care all of you.






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