Thread: Sorting questions and an SSL question

Sorting questions and an SSL question

From
Network Administrator
Date:
Greetings everyone,

First of all, thank you for pgAdmin III.  Its a very nice tool and I used it in
on Winblowz 2000 and I also installed it on one of my Linux laptops (Slackware9
Package).

I've got serveral questions that concern me in moving forward recommending this
tool be used.  I hoping the answer evade be because of my own ignorance.

One of the things I remember doing in pgAdmin II is that I could view the table
data and then (I think click) a column so that the data would be sorted. 
However now it seems like that functional is gone altogether.  So the question
is how does one sort the data that is being viewed.  Ideally, I was hoping that
pgAdmin III would go to the next step of being able to view data in the way that
the old version of pgAccess did.  That is to say, the user could entry multiple
sort parameters (i.e. an order by clause).  Futher more a filter (i.e. where
clause) would be nice too.  I still use pgAcess on the *nix side because I can
do at least the sorting piece in their current version (though, the orginal
version had exactly what stated above).  pgAccess hasn't had a release in quite
awhile and although I haven't contacted the developers there, I've been leaning
towards using pgAdmin as the single tool I use.

In any event, I hoping this is something that I'm either missing or is in the
works for a future release.

Also, on the Slackware 9 client, the SSL drop down box is empty.  Is there
something I have to do to get the options to appear?


Thanks in advance...


-- 
Keith C. Perry
Director of Networks & Applications
VCSN, Inc.
http://vcsn.com
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Re: Sorting questions and an SSL question

From
"Dave Page"
Date:
Hi Keith,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@vcsn.com]
> Sent: 01 October 2003 15:47
> To: pgadmin-support@postgresql.org
> Subject: [pgadmin-support] Sorting questions and an SSL question
>
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> First of all, thank you for pgAdmin III.  Its a very nice
> tool and I used it in on Winblowz 2000 and I also installed
> it on one of my Linux laptops (Slackware9 Package).
>
> I've got serveral questions that concern me in moving forward
> recommending this tool be used.  I hoping the answer evade be
> because of my own ignorance.
>
> One of the things I remember doing in pgAdmin II is that I
> could view the table data and then (I think click) a column
> so that the data would be sorted.
> However now it seems like that functional is gone altogether.
>  So the question is how does one sort the data that is being
> viewed.

Currently you cannot unfortunately. This is something I hope to
implement, but is not nearly as straightforward with wxWindows as it was
in Visual Basic.

> Ideally, I was hoping that pgAdmin III would go to
> the next step of being able to view data in the way that the
> old version of pgAccess did.  That is to say, the user could
> entry multiple sort parameters (i.e. an order by clause).
> Futher more a filter (i.e. where
> clause) would be nice too.  I still use pgAcess on the *nix
> side because I can do at least the sorting piece in their
> current version (though, the orginal version had exactly what
> stated above).  pgAccess hasn't had a release in quite awhile
> and although I haven't contacted the developers there, I've
> been leaning towards using pgAdmin as the single tool I use.

:-) I haven't used pgAccess since about 1997, so cannot comment on it's
capabilities. Entering of sort/filter parameters does seem useful
though. I'll take a look at that as well.

>
> In any event, I hoping this is something that I'm either
> missing or is in the works for a future release.
>
> Also, on the Slackware 9 client, the SSL drop down box is
> empty.  Is there something I have to do to get the options to appear?

So it is :-( That's odd. I'll check that out as well (you shouldn't have
to do anything).

Regards, Dave.


Re: Sorting questions and an SSL question

From
Andreas Pflug
Date:
Network Administrator wrote:

>Greetings everyone,
>
>First of all, thank you for pgAdmin III.  Its a very nice tool and I used it in
>on Winblowz 2000 and I also installed it on one of my Linux laptops (Slackware9
>Package).
>
>I've got serveral questions that concern me in moving forward recommending this
>tool be used.  I hoping the answer evade be because of my own ignorance.
>
>One of the things I remember doing in pgAdmin II is that I could view the table
>data and then (I think click) a column so that the data would be sorted. 
>However now it seems like that functional is gone altogether.  So the question
>is how does one sort the data that is being viewed.  Ideally, I was hoping that
>pgAdmin III would go to the next step of being able to view data in the way that
>the old version of pgAccess did.  That is to say, the user could entry multiple
>sort parameters (i.e. an order by clause).  Futher more a filter (i.e. where
>clause) would be nice too.  I still use pgAcess on the *nix side because I can
>do at least the sorting piece in their current version (though, the orginal
>version had exactly what stated above).  pgAccess hasn't had a release in quite
>awhile and although I haven't contacted the developers there, I've been leaning
>towards using pgAdmin as the single tool I use.
>

We'll probably add some features to the EditGrid, and user supplied 
sorting is one of that, better input checking is another.
Sorting works very different from pgAdmin2, because we do *not* retrieve 
all data and sort in memory, instead sorting is done on the server. 
Currently, the ORDER BY clause is tied to the primary key (or OID), 
reordering will need a requery.

Regards,
Andreas



Re: Sorting questions and an SSL question

From
Network Administrator
Date:
Quoting Dave Page <dpage@vale-housing.co.uk>:

> Hi Keith,
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@vcsn.com] 
> > Sent: 01 October 2003 15:47
> > To: pgadmin-support@postgresql.org
> > Subject: [pgadmin-support] Sorting questions and an SSL question
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings everyone,
> > 
> > First of all, thank you for pgAdmin III.  Its a very nice 
> > tool and I used it in on Winblowz 2000 and I also installed 
> > it on one of my Linux laptops (Slackware9 Package).
> > 
> > I've got serveral questions that concern me in moving forward 
> > recommending this tool be used.  I hoping the answer evade be 
> > because of my own ignorance.
> > 
> > One of the things I remember doing in pgAdmin II is that I 
> > could view the table data and then (I think click) a column 
> > so that the data would be sorted. 
> > However now it seems like that functional is gone altogether. 
> >  So the question is how does one sort the data that is being 
> > viewed.  
> 
> Currently you cannot unfortunately. This is something I hope to
> implement, but is not nearly as straightforward with wxWindows as it was
> in Visual Basic.
> 
> > Ideally, I was hoping that pgAdmin III would go to 
> > the next step of being able to view data in the way that the 
> > old version of pgAccess did.  That is to say, the user could 
> > entry multiple sort parameters (i.e. an order by clause).  
> > Futher more a filter (i.e. where
> > clause) would be nice too.  I still use pgAcess on the *nix 
> > side because I can do at least the sorting piece in their 
> > current version (though, the orginal version had exactly what 
> > stated above).  pgAccess hasn't had a release in quite awhile 
> > and although I haven't contacted the developers there, I've 
> > been leaning towards using pgAdmin as the single tool I use.
> 
> :-) I haven't used pgAccess since about 1997, so cannot comment on it's
> capabilities. Entering of sort/filter parameters does seem useful
> though. I'll take a look at that as well.
> 
> > 
> > In any event, I hoping this is something that I'm either 
> > missing or is in the works for a future release.
> > 
> > Also, on the Slackware 9 client, the SSL drop down box is 
> > empty.  Is there something I have to do to get the options to appear?
> 
> So it is :-( That's odd. I'll check that out as well (you shouldn't have
> to do anything).
> 
> Regards, Dave.
> 
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> 

Ok, thanks Dave.  One of the networks I manage needs HIPAA compliancies and
althought those would be Windows clients (where the SSL appears to be available
and would meet any requirements).  It would be good for people like myself who
would also be connecting from the Slackware Linux side of things.  

As far as the sorting, I hope wxWindows isn't too much of a headache :)  

-- 
Keith C. Perry
Director of Networks & Applications
VCSN, Inc.
http://vcsn.com
____________________________________
This email account is being host by:
VCSN, Inc : http://vcsn.com


Re: Sorting questions and an SSL question

From
Network Administrator
Date:
Quoting Andreas Pflug <pgadmin@pse-consulting.de>:

> Network Administrator wrote:
> 
> >Greetings everyone,
> >
> >First of all, thank you for pgAdmin III.  Its a very nice tool and I used it
> in
> >on Winblowz 2000 and I also installed it on one of my Linux laptops
> (Slackware9
> >Package).
> >
> >I've got serveral questions that concern me in moving forward recommending
> this
> >tool be used.  I hoping the answer evade be because of my own ignorance.
> >
> >One of the things I remember doing in pgAdmin II is that I could view the
> table
> >data and then (I think click) a column so that the data would be sorted. 
> >However now it seems like that functional is gone altogether.  So the
> question
> >is how does one sort the data that is being viewed.  Ideally, I was hoping
> that
> >pgAdmin III would go to the next step of being able to view data in the way
> that
> >the old version of pgAccess did.  That is to say, the user could entry
> multiple
> >sort parameters (i.e. an order by clause).  Futher more a filter (i.e.
> where
> >clause) would be nice too.  I still use pgAcess on the *nix side because I
> can
> >do at least the sorting piece in their current version (though, the orginal
> >version had exactly what stated above).  pgAccess hasn't had a release in
> quite
> >awhile and although I haven't contacted the developers there, I've been
> leaning
> >towards using pgAdmin as the single tool I use.
> >
> 
> We'll probably add some features to the EditGrid, and user supplied 
> sorting is one of that, better input checking is another.
> Sorting works very different from pgAdmin2, because we do *not* retrieve 
> all data and sort in memory, instead sorting is done on the server. 
> Currently, the ORDER BY clause is tied to the primary key (or OID), 
> reordering will need a requery.
> 
> Regards,
> Andreas
> 

Ahhh, ok so in the meantime what I'll do is make a query and include the oids. 
Then I can find and edit table data that way.

-- 
Keith C. Perry
Director of Networks & Applications
VCSN, Inc.
http://vcsn.com
____________________________________
This email account is being host by:
VCSN, Inc : http://vcsn.com


Re: Sorting questions and an SSL question

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@vcsn.com]
> Sent: 01 October 2003 16:35
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: pgadmin-support@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [pgadmin-support] Sorting questions and an SSL question
>
>
>
> Ok, thanks Dave.  One of the networks I manage needs HIPAA
> compliancies and althought those would be Windows clients
> (where the SSL appears to be available and would meet any
> requirements).  It would be good for people like myself who
> would also be connecting from the Slackware Linux side of things.

I'm working on it now!

> As far as the sorting, I hope wxWindows isn't too much of a
> headache :)

No it's not :-). In pgAdmin II we retrieved the entire recordset and
sorted using methods provided by the Microsoft Listview control. In wx
there are no such methods, so we would have to write them ourselves.
This is no problem in itself, apart from the fact that the grid can
handle many times the amount of data of pga2, partly because we don't
download it all at once.

Regards, Dave.