Thread: Naming of gss_accept_deleg
Why is the new PG 16 GUC called "gss_accept_deleg" and not "gss_accept_delegation"? The abbreviation here seems atypical. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.
Greetings, * Bruce Momjian (bruce@momjian.us) wrote: > Why is the new PG 16 GUC called "gss_accept_deleg" and not > "gss_accept_delegation"? The abbreviation here seems atypical. At the time it felt natural to me but I don't feel strongly about it, happy to change it if folks would prefer it spelled out. Thanks, Stephen
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On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 09:07:26AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > Greetings, > > * Bruce Momjian (bruce@momjian.us) wrote: > > Why is the new PG 16 GUC called "gss_accept_deleg" and not > > "gss_accept_delegation"? The abbreviation here seems atypical. > > At the time it felt natural to me but I don't feel strongly about it, > happy to change it if folks would prefer it spelled out. Yes, please do spell it out, thanks. The fact "deleg" looks similar to "debug" also doesn't help. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.
At 2023-05-19 09:16:09 -0400, bruce@momjian.us wrote: > > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 09:07:26AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > > Why is the new PG 16 GUC called "gss_accept_deleg" and not > > > "gss_accept_delegation"? The abbreviation here seems atypical. > > > > At the time it felt natural to me but I don't feel strongly about it, > > happy to change it if folks would prefer it spelled out. > > Yes, please do spell it out, thanks. The fact "deleg" looks similar to > "debug" also doesn't help. Note that GSS-API itself calls it the "DELEG" flag: if (conn->gcred != GSS_C_NO_CREDENTIAL) gss_flags |= GSS_C_DELEG_FLAG; I would also prefer a GUC named gss_accept_delegation, but the current name matches the libpq gssdeleg connection parameter and the PGSSDELEG environment variable. Maybe there's something to be said for keeping those three things alike? -- Abhijit
Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: > I would also prefer a GUC named gss_accept_delegation, but the current > name matches the libpq gssdeleg connection parameter and the PGSSDELEG > environment variable. Maybe there's something to be said for keeping > those three things alike? +1 for spelling it out in all user-visible names. I do not think that that GSS-API C symbol is a good precedent to follow. regards, tom lane
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 09:42:00AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: > > I would also prefer a GUC named gss_accept_delegation, but the current > > name matches the libpq gssdeleg connection parameter and the PGSSDELEG > > environment variable. Maybe there's something to be said for keeping > > those three things alike? > > +1 for spelling it out in all user-visible names. I do not think > that that GSS-API C symbol is a good precedent to follow. Once nice bonus of the release notes is that it allows us to see the new API in one place to check for consistency. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 09:42:00AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: >> I would also prefer a GUC named gss_accept_delegation, but the current >> name matches the libpq gssdeleg connection parameter and the PGSSDELEG >> environment variable. Maybe there's something to be said for keeping >> those three things alike? > > +1 for spelling it out in all user-visible names. I do not think > that that GSS-API C symbol is a good precedent to follow. +1 -- Nathan Bossart Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 07:58:34AM -0700, Nathan Bossart wrote: > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 09:42:00AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: > >> I would also prefer a GUC named gss_accept_delegation, but the current > >> name matches the libpq gssdeleg connection parameter and the PGSSDELEG > >> environment variable. Maybe there's something to be said for keeping > >> those three things alike? > > > > +1 for spelling it out in all user-visible names. I do not think > > that that GSS-API C symbol is a good precedent to follow. > > +1 With less then 48 hours to beta 1 packaging, I have made this change and adjusted internal variable to match. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 09:33:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > With less then 48 hours to beta 1 packaging, I have made this change and > adjusted internal variable to match. The buildfarm and cfbot seem unhappy with 9c0a0e2. It looks like there are a few remaining uses of gss_accept_deleg to rename. I'm planning to commit the attached patch shortly. -- Nathan Bossart Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
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On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 08:17:57PM -0700, Nathan Bossart wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 09:33:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > With less then 48 hours to beta 1 packaging, I have made this change and > > adjusted internal variable to match. > > The buildfarm and cfbot seem unhappy with 9c0a0e2. It looks like there are > a few remaining uses of gss_accept_deleg to rename. I'm planning to commit > the attached patch shortly. Yes, please do. I saw some matches in the tests but was confused since my tests passed. I now realize I wasn't testing those. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.
Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com> writes: > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 09:33:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> With less then 48 hours to beta 1 packaging, I have made this change and >> adjusted internal variable to match. > The buildfarm and cfbot seem unhappy with 9c0a0e2. It looks like there are > a few remaining uses of gss_accept_deleg to rename. I'm planning to commit > the attached patch shortly. I thought the plan was to also rename the libpq "gssdeleg" connection parameter and so on? I can look into that tomorrow, if nobody beats me to it. regards, tom lane
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 11:21:57PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com> writes: > > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 09:33:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> With less then 48 hours to beta 1 packaging, I have made this change and > >> adjusted internal variable to match. > > > The buildfarm and cfbot seem unhappy with 9c0a0e2. It looks like there are > > a few remaining uses of gss_accept_deleg to rename. I'm planning to commit > > the attached patch shortly. > > I thought the plan was to also rename the libpq "gssdeleg" connection > parameter and so on? I can look into that tomorrow, if nobody beats > me to it. Oh, I didn't consider those. I thought we would leave libpq alone since those are often supplied on the command line and there are existing short-style libpq options, e.g., gssencmode, krbsrvname, sslcrl. I am fine with such a change though. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EDB https://enterprisedb.com Only you can decide what is important to you.
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 11:21:57PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com> writes: >> The buildfarm and cfbot seem unhappy with 9c0a0e2. It looks like there are >> a few remaining uses of gss_accept_deleg to rename. I'm planning to commit >> the attached patch shortly. Done. > I thought the plan was to also rename the libpq "gssdeleg" connection > parameter and so on? I can look into that tomorrow, if nobody beats > me to it. Please do. -- Nathan Bossart Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com
At 2023-05-20 23:21:57 -0400, tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: > > Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com> writes: > > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 09:33:44PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> With less then 48 hours to beta 1 packaging, I have made this change and > >> adjusted internal variable to match. > > > The buildfarm and cfbot seem unhappy with 9c0a0e2. It looks like there are > > a few remaining uses of gss_accept_deleg to rename. I'm planning to commit > > the attached patch shortly. > > I thought the plan was to also rename the libpq "gssdeleg" connection > parameter and so on? I can look into that tomorrow, if nobody beats > me to it. I was trying the change to see if it would be better to name it "gssdelegate" instead (as in delegate on one side, and accept the delegation on the other), but decided that "gssdelegation=enable" reads better than "gssdelegate=enable". Here's the diff. -- Abhijit
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Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: > At 2023-05-20 23:21:57 -0400, tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: >> I thought the plan was to also rename the libpq "gssdeleg" connection >> parameter and so on? I can look into that tomorrow, if nobody beats >> me to it. > I was trying the change to see if it would be better to name it > "gssdelegate" instead (as in delegate on one side, and accept the > delegation on the other), but decided that "gssdelegation=enable" > reads better than "gssdelegate=enable". Yeah, agreed. > Here's the diff. Thanks for doing that legwork! I found a couple other places where "deleg" had escaped notice, and changed the lot. Watching the buildfarm now ... regards, tom lane
Greetings, * Tom Lane (tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us) wrote: > Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: > > At 2023-05-20 23:21:57 -0400, tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: > >> I thought the plan was to also rename the libpq "gssdeleg" connection > >> parameter and so on? I can look into that tomorrow, if nobody beats > >> me to it. > > > I was trying the change to see if it would be better to name it > > "gssdelegate" instead (as in delegate on one side, and accept the > > delegation on the other), but decided that "gssdelegation=enable" > > reads better than "gssdelegate=enable". > > Yeah, agreed. > > > Here's the diff. > > Thanks for doing that legwork! I found a couple other places where > "deleg" had escaped notice, and changed the lot. Watching the > buildfarm now ... Thanks all for taking this up over a weekend. Stephen
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I noticed that the value that enables this feature at libpq client side is 'enable'. However, for other Boolean settings like sslsni, keepalives, requiressl, sslcompression, the value that enables feature is '1' -- we use strings only for "enum" type of settings. Also, it looks like connectOptions2() doesn't validate the string value. -- Álvaro Herrera 48°01'N 7°57'E — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/ <inflex> really, I see PHP as like a strange amalgamation of C, Perl, Shell <crab> inflex: you know that "amalgam" means "mixture with mercury", more or less, right? <crab> i.e., "deadly poison"
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes: > I noticed that the value that enables this feature at libpq client side > is 'enable'. However, for other Boolean settings like sslsni, > keepalives, requiressl, sslcompression, the value that enables feature > is '1' -- we use strings only for "enum" type of settings. > Also, it looks like connectOptions2() doesn't validate the string value. Hmm, it certainly seems like this ought to accept exactly the same inputs as other libpq boolean settings. I can take a look unless somebody else is already on it. regards, tom lane
At 2023-05-22 09:42:44 -0400, tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: > > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes: > > I noticed that the value that enables this feature at libpq client side > > is 'enable'. However, for other Boolean settings like sslsni, > > keepalives, requiressl, sslcompression, the value that enables feature > > is '1' -- we use strings only for "enum" type of settings. > > > Also, it looks like connectOptions2() doesn't validate the string value. > > Hmm, it certainly seems like this ought to accept exactly the > same inputs as other libpq boolean settings. I can take a look > unless somebody else is already on it. I'm working on it. -- Abhijit
At 2023-05-22 09:42:44 -0400, tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: > > Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes: > > I noticed that the value that enables this feature at libpq client side > > is 'enable'. However, for other Boolean settings like sslsni, > > keepalives, requiressl, sslcompression, the value that enables feature > > is '1' -- we use strings only for "enum" type of settings. > > > Also, it looks like connectOptions2() doesn't validate the string value. > > Hmm, it certainly seems like this ought to accept exactly the > same inputs as other libpq boolean settings. I can take a look > unless somebody else is already on it. Here's the diff, but the 0/1 values of settings like sslsni and sslcompression don't seem to be validated anywhere, unlike the string options in connectOptions2, so I didn't do anything for gssdelegation. (I've never run the Kerberos tests before, but I changed one "gssdelegation=disable" to "gssdelegation=1" and got a test failure, so they're probably working as expected.) -- Abhijit
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Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: > Here's the diff, but the 0/1 values of settings like sslsni and > sslcompression don't seem to be validated anywhere, unlike the string > options in connectOptions2, so I didn't do anything for gssdelegation. Thanks! I'll set to work on this. I assume we want to squeeze it into beta1, so there's not much time. regards, tom lane
Abhijit Menon-Sen <ams@toroid.org> writes: > Here's the diff, Pushed, thanks. > but the 0/1 values of settings like sslsni and > sslcompression don't seem to be validated anywhere, unlike the string > options in connectOptions2, so I didn't do anything for gssdelegation. Yeah. Perhaps it's worth adding code to validate boolean options, but since nobody has noticed the lack of that for decades, I'm not in a hurry to (especially not in a last-minute patch). Also, I noticed that PGGSSDELEGATION had not been added to the lists of environment variables to unset in pg_regress.c and Test/Utils.pm. Dealt with that in the same commit. regards, tom lane