Thread: PostgreSQL on K8 with Operator

On 2020-12-08 21:19, Valeria Kaplan wrote:
> Hi Sasi,
> 
> Thank you for reaching out.
> 
> You will need to either contact individual companies that provide
> PostgreSQL services (you can google them or take a look here:
> https://www.postgresql.org/support/professional_support/) or you can 
> also
> reach out to the community through Slack (postgresteam.slack.com) or
> Telegram (https://t.me/pg_sql) channels where individual consultants 
> might
> be able to help.

Looking at that Community Slack just now, it seems to only allow logins
by people with specific domains as their email address:

   * omniti.com
   * wingspan.com
   * getchef.com
   * pgexperts.com
   * citusdata.com
   * 8kdata.com
   * peoplecall.com
   * enterprisedb.com
   * nabancard.com
   * 2ndquadrant.com
   * circonus.com
   * postgrespro.ru
   * openscg.com

Guessing it's not (yet?) a channel for general contact from Community
members?

+ Justin


> We can't recommend a specific operator or comment on their expertise.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Valeria
> 
> Valeria Kaplan
> PostgreSQL advocacy

On 2020-12-09 22:52, Dave Page wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:38 AM Valeria Kaplan 
> <kaplan.valeria@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Justin,
>> 
>> I was able to log in and don't have an email with either of those 
>> domains,
>> so pretty sure it is open for all.
>> There are close to 10k people on it, I doubt they all have emails with
>> those domains.
> 
> Maybe those domains just get automatically approved, whereas others are
> manual.

Hmmm, maybe I'm doing something wrong.  Two screenshots attached, to 
show
what I'm seeing.

   * 01 - the login page (for existing accounts)
   * 02 - the "create account" page, to create a new account

The "create account" page only allows specific domains, though it has a
note to "Contact the workspace administrator at Postgres for an 
invitation."
for all others.  With no actual link to contact info for the workspace
admin. ;)

Hmmm, it does have a "Continue with Google" button though, so I guess
Google users are able to login too?  For me, that's not going to work as
Google locked me out of my account when I moved from the UK to 
Australia. :/

Note that this isn't urgent nor important in any way, I was more 
checking
the Slack out of curiosity and for general awareness. :)

+ Justin

Thanks to Valeria for sending me an invite to the Slack, I've been able 
to
join and chat with the PG Slack owner (@denish, CC'd).

It turns out there's a specific page we should be sending new people for
joining the PG Slack:

   https://postgres-slack.herokuapp.com

That's an app which generates invites to the PG Slack, and doesn't have 
a
restriction on email address. :)

(On a semi-related note, the Go language Slack has an app for the same
thing.  Seems a fairly standard approach for larger sized Slacks these
days.)

+ Justin


On 2020-12-09 23:26, Valeria Kaplan wrote:
> Apologies, I thought it was a separate button for a generic email not 
> from
> the domain list.
> It might be a good idea to check with Slack admins (not sure who that 
> is)
> to check what they had in mind when restricting number of domains for 
> that
> channel. Will try to find out.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 12:24 PM Valeria Kaplan <vk@dataegret.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> hmm. I've probably used the Google button when first signed in.
>> and what happens if you "continue with email"?
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 12:14 PM Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2020-12-09 22:52, Dave Page wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:38 AM Valeria Kaplan
>>> > <kaplan.valeria@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Justin,
>>> >>
>>> >> I was able to log in and don't have an email with either of those
>>> >> domains,
>>> >> so pretty sure it is open for all.
>>> >> There are close to 10k people on it, I doubt they all have emails with
>>> >> those domains.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe those domains just get automatically approved, whereas others are
>>> > manual.
>>> 
>>> Hmmm, maybe I'm doing something wrong.  Two screenshots attached, to
>>> show
>>> what I'm seeing.
>>> 
>>>    * 01 - the login page (for existing accounts)
>>>    * 02 - the "create account" page, to create a new account
>>> 
>>> The "create account" page only allows specific domains, though it has 
>>> a
>>> note to "Contact the workspace administrator at Postgres for an
>>> invitation."
>>> for all others.  With no actual link to contact info for the 
>>> workspace
>>> admin. ;)
>>> 
>>> Hmmm, it does have a "Continue with Google" button though, so I guess
>>> Google users are able to login too?  For me, that's not going to work 
>>> as
>>> Google locked me out of my account when I moved from the UK to
>>> Australia. :/
>>> 
>>> Note that this isn't urgent nor important in any way, I was more
>>> checking
>>> the Slack out of curiosity and for general awareness. :)
>>> 
>>> + Justin

On 12/9/20 9:23 AM, Valeria Kaplan wrote:
> aha!
> that's good to know.
> Thank you, Justin
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Justin Clift <justin@postgresql.org
> <mailto:justin@postgresql.org>> wrote:
>
>     Thanks to Valeria for sending me an invite to the Slack, I've been able
>     to
>     join and chat with the PG Slack owner (@denish, CC'd).
>
>     It turns out there's a specific page we should be sending new people for
>     joining the PG Slack:
>
>        https://postgres-slack.herokuapp.com
>     <https://postgres-slack.herokuapp.com>
>
>     That's an app which generates invites to the PG Slack, and doesn't have
>     a
>     restriction on email address. :)

When checking the website[1] it appears that we link to that URL. Is it
appearing somewhere else on the website where it is not being linked to
that signup form?

Thanks,

Jonathan

[1] https://www.postgresql.org/community/

On 2020-12-10 03:35, Stephen Frost wrote:
<snip>
> ... should we really be sending people to such a herokuapp site to sign
> up?  Seems like something we could probably manage to make part of
> pg.org, and really should..

Denish seems to be on the PG Advocacy mailing list now, and is CC-d 
anyway.
So it probably wouldn't be too hard to move to PG infrastructure
hosting. :)


> Not sure if there's a way for the slack admin to change the URL that
> folks on the slack channel see, but if so, that'd be nice to change 
> too,
> so that there isn't this confusion in the future.  Also seems unlikely
> that we need to have that list of domains be associated with the
> community slack...?  Also leads to confusion.

You mean the "postgresteam.slack.com" domain name?  That kind of thing
is pretty standard for Slack, and the "postgresteam" name seem on topic
enough to be ok (to me). :)

The list-of-domains thing sounds like it might be fixable in a month or
two once the new Salesforce ownership of Slack has settled a bit more. 
:)

+ Justin