Thread: Fwd: A better translation version of Chinese for psql/po/zh_CN.po file

Hi translators,

Can you take a look at the Chinese translation update from Rugal
Bernstein below? I just spotted this in the Postgres July commitfest,
but there's no need to track it there.

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Subject: A better translation version of Chinese for psql/po/zh_CN.po file
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 22:22:26 -0600
From: tenjindescend@gmail.com <tenjindescend@gmail.com>
To: pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>

Hello all,
This is my first patch to postgreSQL, so I think I'd better start from a
easy one.

I am a native Chinese speaker. A lot of words and expressions are
different between mainsand Chinese and TaiWan/HongKong Chinese.

For instance TaiWan Chinese will use "档案" to represent "file", but in
mainland Chinese we use "文件". Things like that make a huge difference
in 'src/bin/psql/po/zh_CN.po', after check this file, I manually
translate and modify the entire file to make it more native Chinese
like, but I think there still have some space to improve.

If any of you think this version of translation is useful or have any
question , please let me know.



Rugal Bernstein
Graduate Student @ University of Manitoba
Data Mining; Machine Learning; Neural Network

Rugal Bernstein wrote:
> Hi all,
> Sorry for the later response. I am not familiar with the commit procedure.
> I am here to raise this patch again in the 2015-11 commitfest.
> Still the same, I am pretty confident with my translation. I guarantee it
> is very orthodox and much more native than the TW version.

Hi,

Please have a look at this website: https://babel.postgresql.org/
In there, you will find a lot of information about the current status of
the translation of all the various branches for the language, as well as
a git repository that you can clone.  The repository contains branches
for each active Postgres branch.

The methodology I recommend you follow is to download a .po file from
the website, then use it as a base to apply your new translations.

I just pushed your translation to the master branch (which is for
Postgres 9.5) -- to do so, I downloaded
https://babel.postgresql.org/po-current/psql-zh_CN.po (linked in the
website) then ran "msgmerge your-file.po psql-zh_CN.po", then committed
that as the new version of psql/zh_CN.po.

Hmm, ouch.  After pushing, I found out that during 2014, our established
translator Xiong He was still active:
http://pgfoundry.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=320&aid=1011462&group_id=1000064
Did you try contacting him before updating the translation?  What is the
reason for this alleged divergence?  I don't see Xiong He updating the
TW translation (which has stalled since 2011) so I have trouble
understanding exactly why you are calling our existing translation "the
TW version".

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On 9/4/15 1:31 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Rugal Bernstein wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Sorry for the later response. I am not familiar with the commit procedure.
>> I am here to raise this patch again in the 2015-11 commitfest.
>> Still the same, I am pretty confident with my translation. I guarantee it
>> is very orthodox and much more native than the TW version.
>
> Hi,
>
> Please have a look at this website: https://babel.postgresql.org/
> In there, you will find a lot of information about the current status of
> the translation of all the various branches for the language, as well as
> a git repository that you can clone.  The repository contains branches
> for each active Postgres branch.
>
> The methodology I recommend you follow is to download a .po file from
> the website, then use it as a base to apply your new translations.
>
> I just pushed your translation to the master branch (which is for
> Postgres 9.5) -- to do so, I downloaded
> https://babel.postgresql.org/po-current/psql-zh_CN.po (linked in the
> website) then ran "msgmerge your-file.po psql-zh_CN.po", then committed
> that as the new version of psql/zh_CN.po.

If I interpret the rest of this thread correctly, then the proposed
changes were to make the style more suitable for TW.  I don't know if
updating the CN file was correct.

On 20-09-2015 10:06, Xiong He wrote:
> Recently, I've submited an updated patch for the latest zh_CN po files
> in the pgfoundry.
> Could somebody make the review/merge into the source code?
>
Are we still using pgfoundry? AFAIK it will be shutdown in a few weeks.

As indicated in [1], the right place to submit translation updates is [2].


[1] https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/NLS#Translating
[2] https://redmine.postgresql.org/projects/pgtranslation


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