Thread: 404 for some mbox archives
Hi, I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives. For example http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805 works just fine, but this http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804 fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples. BTW how does this (mbox archives behind authentication) protect us against spam? regards Tomas
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On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives. > > For example > > http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805 > > works just fine, but this > > http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804 > > fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples. That one simply does not exist. Why? Because we generate the links to the mbox files based on the dates of the emails. Clearly we have messages from 199804 that are in a mbox file from a different date :O I guess we need to add a check that the file actually exists as well, and make no silly assumptions about emails being in the correct file :) > BTW how does this (mbox archives behind authentication) protect us > against spam? Not sure how much it does, but at least now a bot has to spend a bit more work to actually be able to download it. Most of them likely give up. And it also keeps people from complaining a bit :) -- Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives. > > > > For example > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805 > > > > works just fine, but this > > > > http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804 > > > > fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples. > > That one simply does not exist. > > Why? Because we generate the links to the mbox files based on the > dates of the emails. Clearly we have messages from 199804 that are in > a mbox file from a different date :O It seems that back then list boundaries weren't as clearly defined as they are now. I checked the emails listed as being in Oct. 1999 (I think; maybe it was Sept) and the headers had "To: docs@postgresql.org" instead of pgsql-admin. There were only two of them. They were close to the end of the month (say on the 28th and 29th or something like that) so maybe they ended up in next month's mbox because they were delayed because of the resending, or something like that. I know we used to get email to hackers@postgresql.org and Marc customarily resent them to pgsql-hackers, for example. -- Álvaro Herrera http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: > Magnus Hagander wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Tomas Vondra <tv@fuzzy.cz> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I'm getting 404 when attempting to download some of the mbox archives. >> > >> > For example >> > >> > http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199805 >> > >> > works just fine, but this >> > >> > http://www.postgresql.org/list/pgsql-admin/mbox/pgsql-admin.199804 >> > >> > fails with 404. Attached is a list of more such examples. >> >> That one simply does not exist. >> >> Why? Because we generate the links to the mbox files based on the >> dates of the emails. Clearly we have messages from 199804 that are in >> a mbox file from a different date :O Sorry about the delay in this, a fix has been pushed so we're no longer generating mbox links to files that don't exist. --Magnus HaganderMe: http://www.hagander.net/Work: http://www.redpill-linpro.com/