Thread: Mails to -advocacy mysteriously disappearing
All, I'm the moderator of -advocacy. However, I twice tried to reply to "User Survey Poorly Designed" and neither time did my posts show up on the list. Nor did they show up in the moderation queue, or the list of bounces. WTF? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Josh Berkus<josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: > All, > > I'm the moderator of -advocacy. However, I twice tried to reply to "User > Survey Poorly Designed" and neither time did my posts show up on the list. > Nor did they show up in the moderation queue, or the list of bounces. WTF? Can you forward one to me directly? Maybe a keyword triggered one of the anti-spam rules. -- Dave Page EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
do you have anything I can use to trace? a message id from your mail logs or something? On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, Josh Berkus wrote: > All, > > I'm the moderator of -advocacy. However, I twice tried to reply to "User > Survey Poorly Designed" and neither time did my posts show up on the list. > Nor did they show up in the moderation queue, or the list of bounces. WTF? > > -- > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL Experts Inc. > www.pgexperts.com > > -- > Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
I'm double checking the Quarantined spam right now also ... just in case somehow it scored high ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, Dave Page wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Josh Berkus<josh@agliodbs.com> wrote: >> All, >> >> I'm the moderator of -advocacy. However, I twice tried to reply to "User >> Survey Poorly Designed" and neither time did my posts show up on the list. >> Nor did they show up in the moderation queue, or the list of bounces. WTF? > > Can you forward one to me directly? Maybe a keyword triggered one of > the anti-spam rules. > > > > -- > Dave Page > EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com > > -- > Sent via pgsql-www mailing list (pgsql-www@postgresql.org) > To make changes to your subscription: > http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-www > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
On 7/9/09 7:10 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > do you have anything I can use to trace? a message id from your mail > logs or something? <4A53D597.7090706@agliodbs.com> <4A557F9F.4000502@agliodbs.com> -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com
Nope, that won't give it to me .. can you give me the times that those two were passed over to our server(s)? And to which one received it? Your are PST, right? Server is in ADT, so +4 from you, I believe? I didn't find anything in the Spam Quarantine queue ... so that appears to be clean ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 7/9/09 7:10 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> do you have anything I can use to trace? a message id from your mail >> logs or something? > > <4A53D597.7090706@agliodbs.com> > <4A557F9F.4000502@agliodbs.com> > > -- > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL Experts Inc. > www.pgexperts.com > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
On 7/9/09 9:20 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Nope, that won't give it to me .. can you give me the times that those > two were passed over to our server(s)? And to which one received it? Dropped mail just happened *again*. Message ID is: <4A5F4BDA.3030203@agliodbs.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:48:42 -0700 Since I'm the primary admin of the Advocacy list, it's kind of a problem if I can't mail to it. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com
Hold ... On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 7/9/09 9:20 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> Nope, that won't give it to me .. can you give me the times that those >> two were passed over to our server(s)? And to which one received it? > > Dropped mail just happened *again*. Message ID is: > <4A5F4BDA.3030203@agliodbs.com> > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:48:42 -0700 > > Since I'm the primary admin of the Advocacy list, it's kind of a problem if I > can't mail to it. > > -- > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL Experts Inc. > www.pgexperts.com > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
Here is what I'm seeing: Jul 16 12:48:59 mail postfix/smtpd[40748]: 98D8C632FB8: client=glacier.frostconsultingllc.com[69.36.227.170] Jul 16 12:48:59 mail postfix/cleanup[40514]: 98D8C632FB8: message-id=<4A5F4BDA.3030203@agliodbs.com> Jul 16 12:48:59 mail postfix/qmgr[4314]: 98D8C632FB8: from=<josh@agliodbs.com>, size=2985, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jul 16 12:49:48 mail postfix/smtp[39024]: 98D8C632FB8: to=<pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@mail.postgresql.org>, orig_to=<pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org>, relay=maia.hub.org[200.46.208.211]:10024, conn_use=8, delay=49, delays=0.16/39/0.01/11, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, message with invalid header discarded, id=30678-01-8 - Non-encoded 8-bit data (char C2 hex) in message header 'X-Spam-Report': X-Spam-Report: ... > Yeah. PostgreSQl lacks \\302\\253availability, ...) Jul 16 12:49:48 mail postfix/qmgr[4314]: 98D8C632FB8: removed And found it in the Invalid Headers cache, and just released it ... and out of 27 messages that were in that cache, 1 (yours) was the only one that wasn't spam ... Something odd on your side? Other then it doesn't seem to be all your email(s)? On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Josh Berkus wrote: > On 7/9/09 9:20 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> Nope, that won't give it to me .. can you give me the times that those >> two were passed over to our server(s)? And to which one received it? > > Dropped mail just happened *again*. Message ID is: > <4A5F4BDA.3030203@agliodbs.com> > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:48:42 -0700 > > Since I'm the primary admin of the Advocacy list, it's kind of a problem if I > can't mail to it. > > -- > Josh Berkus > PostgreSQL Experts Inc. > www.pgexperts.com > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > Here is what I'm seeing: > > Jul 16 12:48:59 mail postfix/smtpd[40748]: 98D8C632FB8: > client=glacier.frostconsultingllc.com[69.36.227.170] > Jul 16 12:48:59 mail postfix/cleanup[40514]: 98D8C632FB8: > message-id=<4A5F4BDA.3030203@agliodbs.com> > Jul 16 12:48:59 mail postfix/qmgr[4314]: 98D8C632FB8: > from=<josh@agliodbs.com>, size=2985, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > Jul 16 12:49:48 mail postfix/smtp[39024]: 98D8C632FB8: > to=<pgsql-advocacy-postgresql.org@mail.postgresql.org>, > orig_to=<pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org>, > relay=maia.hub.org[200.46.208.211]:10024, conn_use=8, delay=49, > delays=0.16/39/0.01/11, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Ok, message > with invalid header discarded, id=30678-01-8 - Non-encoded 8-bit data > (char C2 hex) in message header 'X-Spam-Report': X-Spam-Report: ... > > Yeah. PostgreSQl lacks \\302\\253availability, ...) > Jul 16 12:49:48 mail postfix/qmgr[4314]: 98D8C632FB8: removed > > And found it in the Invalid Headers cache, and just released it ... and > out of 27 messages that were in that cache, 1 (yours) was the only one > that wasn't spam ... > > Something odd on your side? Other then it doesn't seem to be all your > email(s)? this seems to be a broken spamassassin setup on the server (glacier.frostconsultingllc.com) josh is sending his mails through. the relevant part of the header is: X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "glacier.frostconsultingllc.com", hasidentified this incoming email as possible spam. The original messagehas been attachedto this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or labelsimilar future email. If you have any questions, seethe administratorof that system for details.Content preview: > Yeah. PostgreSQl lacks «availability, security and performancequalities > of enterprise class databases» which MySQL obviously has. >> Whoever inventented this bullshit musthave been paid a serious amount >of money from somewhere. [...]Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required)ptsrule name description---- ---------------------- ---------------------------------------------------1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP-2.6BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%[score: 0.0000]1.5 AWL AWL: From:address is in the auto white-list (sorry if the formating breaks) this seems that somebody seriously fatfingered the spamassassin reporting template (in addition to the fact that the systems seems to apply spamchecking even to mails sent from authenticated users) and the MTA integration. Stefan
Guys, Problem report sent to server owner. In the meantime, I'll use a different secure SMTP server. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com