Thread: update to main page for feature freeze
Index: index.html
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RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/pgweb/portal/template/index.html,v
retrieving revision 1.87
diff -c -r1.87 index.html
*** index.html 18 Feb 2007 19:14:16 -0000 1.87
--- index.html 27 Feb 2007 00:47:02 -0000
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*** 6,18 **** <div id="pgFrontFeature"> <div id="pgFrontFeatureContent"> <h1
id="txtFrontFeatureHeading">
! func_lang("PostgreSQL 8.2 Released") </h1> <p>
! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group
is proud to announce the release of PostgreSQL 8.2, the world's most
advanced open source database. View the <a
href=\"/docs/current/static/release-8-2.html\">release notes</a> for
more information.") </p> <div id="txtFrontFeatureLink">
! <img src="/layout/images/blt_blu_arrow.png"
width="6" height="5" alt="" /><a href="/ftp" title="Download PostgreSQL
8.2.3">func_lang("Download PostgreSQL 8.2.3")</a><br /> </div> </div> </div>
--- 6,18 ---- <div id="pgFrontFeature"> <div id="pgFrontFeatureContent"> <h1
id="txtFrontFeatureHeading">
! func_lang("Feature Freeze for 8.3 almost here!") </h1> <p>
! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group
is close to Feature Freeze for their 8.3 release. Read the <a
href=\"/docs/faqs.FAQ_DEV.html\">developer FAQ</a> for more information
on how to contribute. You can also view our <a
href=\"http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/Todo:WishlistFor83\">Developer
Wiki</a> for more information on the exciting upcoming release.") </p> <div
id="txtFrontFeatureLink">
! <img src="/layout/images/blt_blu_arrow.png"
width="6" height="5" alt="" /><a href="/ftp" title="Download PostgreSQL
8.2.3">func_lang("Download Stable PostgreSQL 8.2.3")</a><br /> </div> </div>
</div>
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On Monday 26 February 2007 19:48, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> Index: index.html
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/pgweb/portal/template/index.html,v
> retrieving revision 1.87
> diff -c -r1.87 index.html
> *** index.html 18 Feb 2007 19:14:16 -0000 1.87
> --- index.html 27 Feb 2007 00:47:02 -0000
> ***************
> *** 6,18 ****
> <div id="pgFrontFeature">
> <div id="pgFrontFeatureContent">
> <h1 id="txtFrontFeatureHeading">
> ! func_lang("PostgreSQL 8.2 Released")
> </h1>
> <p>
> ! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group
> is proud to announce the release of PostgreSQL 8.2, the world's most
> advanced open source database. View the <a
> href=\"/docs/current/static/release-8-2.html\">release notes</a> for
> more information.")
> </p>
> <div id="txtFrontFeatureLink">
> ! <img src="/layout/images/blt_blu_arrow.png"
> width="6" height="5" alt="" /><a href="/ftp" title="Download PostgreSQL
> 8.2.3">func_lang("Download PostgreSQL 8.2.3")</a><br />
> </div>
> </div>
> </div>
> --- 6,18 ----
> <div id="pgFrontFeature">
> <div id="pgFrontFeatureContent">
> <h1 id="txtFrontFeatureHeading">
> ! func_lang("Feature Freeze for 8.3 almost here!")
> </h1>
> <p>
> ! func_lang("The PostgreSQL Global Development Group
> is close to Feature Freeze for their 8.3 release. Read the <a
> href=\"/docs/faqs.FAQ_DEV.html\">developer FAQ</a> for more information
> on how to contribute. You can also view our <a
> href=\"http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/Todo:WishlistFor83\">Devel
>oper Wiki</a> for more information on the exciting upcoming release.")
> </p>
> <div id="txtFrontFeatureLink">
> ! <img src="/layout/images/blt_blu_arrow.png"
> width="6" height="5" alt="" /><a href="/ftp" title="Download PostgreSQL
> 8.2.3">func_lang("Download Stable PostgreSQL 8.2.3")</a><br />
> </div>
> </div>
> </div>
I don't feel this change is neccessary. People who are developing patches
probably have a good idea when feature freeze is, and we have more than
enough patches to deal with right now. For regular users, pointers to
download is one of the top items they need, so emphsizing our recent releases
is still a good idea.
--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL
>
> I don't feel this change is neccessary. People who are developing patches
> probably have a good idea when feature freeze is, and we have more than
> enough patches to deal with right now. For regular users, pointers to
> download is one of the top items they need, so emphsizing our recent releases
> is still a good idea.
This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us.
Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only
reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on
the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL.
Our website doesn't say *anything* about what is going on with
PostgreSQL the project (says alot about secondary stuff like training etc..)
A website is two things, an information source and a marketing source.
Joshua D. Drake
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All, > This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. > Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only > reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on > the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. "Current Development Status: Orange" Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze May-June 2007 Beta begins August-October 2007 8.3 Released March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
>
>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us.
>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only
>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on
>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL.
>
> "Current Development Status: Orange"
Rock ON! That would be funny. Let's do it. (and I am only half kidding).
>
> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-)
It isn't about alerting, it is about informing. Which is a bit different.
>
> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information
> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it:
>
> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze
> May-June 2007 Beta begins
> August-October 2007 8.3 Released
> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative)
Actually combined with the change to the front page that says feature
freeze is almost upon us, I could live with this.
Joshua D. Drake
>
>
>
--
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Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Josh Berkus wrote: >> All, >> >>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. >>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only >>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on >>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. >> "Current Development Status: Orange" > > Rock ON! OMG - in an instant my mental picture of you just changed to Justin Lee Collins. That can't be good <shudder> :-) /D
Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
>
> > This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us.
> > Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only
> > reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on
> > the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL.
>
> "Current Development Status: Orange"
>
> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-)
>
> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information
> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it:
>
> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze
> May-June 2007 Beta begins
> August-October 2007 8.3 Released
> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative)
It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ:
<P>The development schedule for the 8.3 release is:</P> <DL> <DD>March 1, 2007</DD>
<DT>Initialcommunity review of all major feature patches</DT> <DD>April 1, 2007</DD> <DT>Feature freeze,
allpatches must be submitted for review and application</DT> <DD>mid-May, 2007</DD> <DT>All patches
applied,beta testing begins</DT> <DD>July, 2007</DD> <DT>Release of 8.3.0</DT> </DL>
-- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB
http://www.enterprisedb.com
+ If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Josh Berkus wrote:
>> All,
>>
>>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us.
>>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only
>>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on
>>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL.
>> "Current Development Status: Orange"
>>
>> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-)
>>
>> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information
>> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it:
>>
>> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze
>> May-June 2007 Beta begins
>> August-October 2007 8.3 Released
>> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative)
>
> It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ:
I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust.
Joshua D. Drake
>
> <P>The development schedule for the 8.3 release is:</P>
> <DL>
> <DD>March 1, 2007</DD>
> <DT>Initial community review of all major feature patches</DT>
> <DD>April 1, 2007</DD>
> <DT>Feature freeze, all patches must be submitted for review and application</DT>
> <DD>mid-May, 2007</DD>
> <DT>All patches applied, beta testing begins</DT>
> <DD>July, 2007</DD>
> <DT>Release of 8.3.0</DT>
> </DL>
>
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Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Josh Berkus wrote: > >> All, > >> > >>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us. > >>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only > >>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on > >>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL. > >> "Current Development Status: Orange" > >> > >> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-) > >> > >> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > >> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > >> > >> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > >> May-June 2007 Beta begins > >> August-October 2007 8.3 Released > >> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) > > > > It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: > > I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>> Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>> This is all about letting the community know what is going on with us.
>>>>> Especially the community that isn't here everyday in the lists. The only
>>>>> reason I even included the links was because I know people who aren't on
>>>>> the lists but would love to know what is going on with PostgreSQL.
>>>> "Current Development Status: Orange"
>>>>
>>>> Oh, wait, that's the wrong sort of alert. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information
>>>> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it:
>>>>
>>>> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze
>>>> May-June 2007 Beta begins
>>>> August-October 2007 8.3 Released
>>>> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative)
>>> It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ:
>> I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust.
>
> Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a
> problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that.
Well I may or may not be an exception but I can say that I would never
have thought to look in the FAQ for that info. It is entirely possible
that, I wouldn't think of that because of the rather up to my ears I am
in all of this every day. I would prefer to hear what others think about
whether or not the FAQ is a place to hold it.
Although! In the FAQ it would probably make more sense to have 1.19)
What is the timeline for the next major PostgreSQL release?
Point to /developer/roadmap :)
Joshua D. Drake
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:44:56PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > >> All, > > >> > > >> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > > >> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > > >> > > >> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > > >> May-June 2007 Beta begins > > >> August-October 2007 8.3 Released > > >> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) > > > > > > It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: > > > > I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. > > Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a > problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that. Now that it is ont he website, may I humbly suggest that it is removed from the developer FAQ (possibly replaced with a reference to the website) so we don't risk ending up with two locations saying different things? //Magnus
Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 05:44:56PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > Josh Berkus wrote: > > > >> All, > > > >> > > > >> Seriously, what I would suggest is that we put timeline information > > > >> on /developer/roadmap, which is the correct place for it: > > > >> > > > >> March 31, 2007 Feature Freeze > > > >> May-June 2007 Beta begins > > > >> August-October 2007 8.3 Released > > > >> March 31, 2008 Feature freeze for 8.4 (tentative) > > > > > > > > It would be good if you matched the information in the developer's FAQ: > > > > > > I didn't even know it was there. I will be happy to adjust. > > > > Well, the fact you didn't know it was there indicates there is a > > problem. Hopefully having it on the web site will fix that. > > Now that it is ont he website, may I humbly suggest that it is removed > from the developer FAQ (possibly replaced with a reference to the > website) so we don't risk ending up with two locations saying different > things? Removed from developer's FAQ. I never liked it there anyway because it is time-specific information, but because it seemed harder to add to the web site, I put in there until the web site was updated. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +