Thread: Re: [webmaster] Opening links in new windows is irritating
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Francis Irving wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 09:39:14AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: >>> Francis Irving wrote: >>>> The PostgeSQL website often opens new windows for no >>>> good reason. Can you please change it so it doesn't? >>>> >>>> This has been considered bad practice since at least 1999. >>>> 2. Opening New Browser Windows >>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530.html >>>> >>>> An example is after searching: >>>> http://search.postgresql.org/www.search?ul=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postgresql.org%2Fdocs%2F8.0%2Fstatic%2F%25&q=delete+from >>>> When I click on a link in the results, it has an _BLANK target, which >>>> should be removed. >>> >>> I agree, but others don't, it seems. >> >> I love the website apart from this. >> >> Who disagrees? >> >> Note in particular that this behaviour differs from every other open >> source documentation site I use -- PHP, Python, MySQL. > > Uh, I think Marc disagrees. Anyone else? The reason it was setup like that was so that you looked at the 'message' from the search results in a seperate window, while still maintaining the search results themselves ... If I'm the only one that finds this convienent, its a 2 second job to remove the TARGET tag ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > Francis Irving wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 09:39:14AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >>> Francis Irving wrote: > >>>> The PostgeSQL website often opens new windows for no > >>>> good reason. Can you please change it so it doesn't? > >>>> > >>>> This has been considered bad practice since at least 1999. > >>>> 2. Opening New Browser Windows > >>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530.html > >>>> > >>>> An example is after searching: > >>>> http://search.postgresql.org/www.search?ul=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postgresql.org%2Fdocs%2F8.0%2Fstatic%2F%25&q=delete+from > >>>> When I click on a link in the results, it has an _BLANK target, which > >>>> should be removed. > >>> > >>> I agree, but others don't, it seems. > >> > >> I love the website apart from this. > >> > >> Who disagrees? > >> > >> Note in particular that this behaviour differs from every other open > >> source documentation site I use -- PHP, Python, MySQL. > > > > Uh, I think Marc disagrees. Anyone else? > > The reason it was setup like that was so that you looked at the 'message' > from the search results in a seperate window, while still maintaining the > search results themselves ... > > If I'm the only one that finds this convienent, its a 2 second job to > remove the TARGET tag ... I have never seen another web site behave this way, and I do think it is annoying. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
>>>>>> >>>>>>This has been considered bad practice since at least 1999. >>>>>> 2. Opening New Browser Windows >>>>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530.html >>>>>> >>>>>>An example is after searching: >>>>>> http://search.postgresql.org/www.search?ul=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postgresql.org%2Fdocs%2F8.0%2Fstatic%2F%25&q=delete+from >>>>>>When I click on a link in the results, it has an _BLANK target, which >>>>>>should be removed. If navigation is done correctly then _BLANK should not be required. The only time _BLANK should be used IMHO is when the link takes you to a different site. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- Your PostgreSQL solutions company - Command Prompt, Inc. 1.800.492.2240 PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Programming, 24x7 support Managed Services, Shared and Dedication Hosting Co-Authors: plPHP, plPerlNG - http://www.commandprompt.com/
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>This has been considered bad practice since at least 1999. > >>>>>> 2. Opening New Browser Windows > >>>>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>>An example is after searching: > >>>>>> http://search.postgresql.org/www.search?ul=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postgresql.org%2Fdocs%2F8.0%2Fstatic%2F%25&q=delete+from > >>>>>>When I click on a link in the results, it has an _BLANK target, which > >>>>>>should be removed. > > If navigation is done correctly then _BLANK should not be required. The > only time _BLANK should be used IMHO is when the link takes you to a > different site. Right. I have seen that done. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 01:28:16PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>This has been considered bad practice since at least 1999. > > >>>>>> 2. Opening New Browser Windows > > >>>>>> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/990530.html > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>An example is after searching: > > >>>>>> http://search.postgresql.org/www.search?ul=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postgresql.org%2Fdocs%2F8.0%2Fstatic%2F%25&q=delete+from > > >>>>>>When I click on a link in the results, it has an _BLANK target, which > > >>>>>>should be removed. > > > > If navigation is done correctly then _BLANK should not be required. The > > only time _BLANK should be used IMHO is when the link takes you to a > > different site. > > Right. I have seen that done. Since nobody seems to object, and quite a few people approve, could you make the change, and remove the _BLANK? Francis
Hi, On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Francis Irving wrote: >>> If navigation is done correctly then _BLANK should not be required. The >>> only time _BLANK should be used IMHO is when the link takes you to a >>> different site. >> >> Right. I have seen that done. > > Since nobody seems to object, and quite a few people approve, could > you make the change, and remove the _BLANK? I object. When someone uses our search system (or any search system...), they will want to display more than one page, so opening the results in new windows is fine. However, if there were a tag that will force to open in new tabs, it would be better -- I love mozilla engines... -- Devrim GUNDUZ devrim~gunduz.org, devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr http://www.tdmsoft.com http://www.gunduz.org
Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Francis Irving wrote: > > >>> If navigation is done correctly then _BLANK should not be required. The > >>> only time _BLANK should be used IMHO is when the link takes you to a > >>> different site. > >> > >> Right. I have seen that done. > > > > Since nobody seems to object, and quite a few people approve, could > > you make the change, and remove the _BLANK? > > I object. > > When someone uses our search system (or any search system...), they will > want to display more than one page, so opening the results in new windows > is fine. > > However, if there were a tag that will force to open in new tabs, it would > be better -- I love mozilla engines... If I want to keep my current window position, I use Control-Click in Mozilla on a link to open a new tab. I don't expect a link to open its own window, and I don't know a way to prevent that in Mozilla. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073
On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 08:37:02AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Devrim GUNDUZ wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Francis Irving wrote: > > > > >>> If navigation is done correctly then _BLANK should not be required. The > > >>> only time _BLANK should be used IMHO is when the link takes you to a > > >>> different site. > > >> > > >> Right. I have seen that done. > > > > > > Since nobody seems to object, and quite a few people approve, could > > > you make the change, and remove the _BLANK? > > > > I object. > > > > When someone uses our search system (or any search system...), they will > > want to display more than one page, so opening the results in new windows > > is fine. > > > > However, if there were a tag that will force to open in new tabs, it would > > be better -- I love mozilla engines... > > If I want to keep my current window position, I use Control-Click in > Mozilla on a link to open a new tab. I don't expect a link to open its > own window, and I don't know a way to prevent that in Mozilla. Yes -- I use the middle mouse button, which even opens it in a new tab on Firefox. Francis
On April 25, 2005 08:37 am, Bruce Momjian wrote: > If I want to keep my current window position, I use Control-Click in > Mozilla on a link to open a new tab. I don't expect a link to open its > own window, and I don't know a way to prevent that in Mozilla. Does that include you changing the preferences under Advanced/Tab browsing? I have a three button mouse: I love the fact that I can click the middle button and it opens the link as a new tab.
Robert Bernier wrote: > On April 25, 2005 08:37 am, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > If I want to keep my current window position, I use Control-Click in > > Mozilla on a link to open a new tab. I don't expect a link to open its > > own window, and I don't know a way to prevent that in Mozilla. > > Does that include you changing the preferences under Advanced/Tab > browsing? Yes, sorry, that does require that change. I forgot. > I have a three button mouse: I love the fact that I can click the middle > button and it opens the link as a new tab. Oh, yea, I only have two buttons. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073