Thread: proposition of a project

Hello,
    A friend and I, we are creating a "Yet another phpMyAdmin" for
Postgres SQL only and we wish to make it "open source" or under a GNU
licence (but we do not know the exact differences). BOBDII (his nick
name) can:
- Be upgraded simply via config file
(table_name/table_field/upgrade_type.php) for tuple, list, form and data
control
- All texts, colors and other options of the GUI are in cfg file coding
mixing PHP and HTML
- Link between tables (1-1, 1-n, n-n) can be edited, changed and deleted
by WYSIWYG
- Some errors like UNIQUE feedback are catched (other ones like Foreign
Keys are works in progress)
- Tuple history line, so you can easily return and link
- Entry controls like date intervals (10-03-1998 < input < 06-02-2005)
return the form with error messages
- Sort by field name (ASC and DESC option)
- Duplicate a tuple for new entry
- text file and email log
- inheritance support
- quite secure HTTP request (visit id, cookie and ip adress comparison)
- customazable form search
- No Javascript, no Java
...

All forms are in POST and most use the BUTTON tag but this HTML 4 tag is
not support by Internet Explorer 5. We use iCab, a Macintosh browser but
on PC, i tried Amaya, the w3c browser, ugly but it works.

Sure, there is bugs and a lot of TODO but we wish initialized a quite
cool project or to use some parts in a project that is already started.

There is a little demo version (an URL manager) at this URL:
htttp://www.espacelollini.com/demo

Please, send me an email if there is any troubles.

Yours,
    Rene-Raphael Pautasso

Yeah, problem is your buttons are not a submit type.

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rene-Raphael" <rene_raphael@mac.com>
To: <pgsql-php@postgresql.org>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: [PHP] proposition of a project


> Hello,
> A friend and I, we are creating a "Yet another phpMyAdmin" for
> Postgres SQL only and we wish to make it "open source" or under a GNU
> licence (but we do not know the exact differences). BOBDII (his nick
> name) can:
> - Be upgraded simply via config file
> (table_name/table_field/upgrade_type.php) for tuple, list, form and data
> control
> - All texts, colors and other options of the GUI are in cfg file coding
> mixing PHP and HTML
> - Link between tables (1-1, 1-n, n-n) can be edited, changed and deleted
> by WYSIWYG
> - Some errors like UNIQUE feedback are catched (other ones like Foreign
> Keys are works in progress)
> - Tuple history line, so you can easily return and link
> - Entry controls like date intervals (10-03-1998 < input < 06-02-2005)
> return the form with error messages
> - Sort by field name (ASC and DESC option)
> - Duplicate a tuple for new entry
> - text file and email log
> - inheritance support
> - quite secure HTTP request (visit id, cookie and ip adress comparison)
> - customazable form search
> - No Javascript, no Java
> ...
>
> All forms are in POST and most use the BUTTON tag but this HTML 4 tag is
> not support by Internet Explorer 5. We use iCab, a Macintosh browser but
> on PC, i tried Amaya, the w3c browser, ugly but it works.
>
> Sure, there is bugs and a lot of TODO but we wish initialized a quite
> cool project or to use some parts in a project that is already started.
>
> There is a little demo version (an URL manager) at this URL:
> htttp://www.espacelollini.com/demo
>
> Please, send me an email if there is any troubles.
>
> Yours,
> Rene-Raphael Pautasso
>
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Hello,
    Thanks for your emails. The BUTTON tag that i use in BOBDII is
different of the INPUT TYPE="SUBMIT" TAG because of the value send to
the server and the text display in the form are different.

Example:
<input name="T_modify" type="submit" value="253">
At my knowledge, you must put the value of the primary key in the value
field and it will be show in the HTML document display by your browser.

But with the BUTTON tag, the value of the primary key is HIDDEN and you
can show to the user what you want in HTML!

<BUTTON NAME="T_modify" VALUE="253">
<div align="center"><B>Modify</B></div>
</BUTTON>

Looks cool but IE do not support the BUTTON tag that is a STANDARD HTML
4 TAG DEFINE BY W3C(.org) !?!?!?

  I suggest to you to visit this site, the W3C give a free demo browser
for Windows and Unix named AMAYA that support all HTML 4 tags. I try it
and it give a very ugly display but it works. I do not know another 100%
HTML 4 compatible browser exept from Icab(.de), a Mac alternative one
and i do not know why Microsoft do not support this tag...

Some of my friends who are not developper like very must this tag
because of you can generate very attractive HTML pages.

If nobody wants the BUTTON tag, i will use the old friend INPUT tag.

    Yours,
    Rene-Raphael Pautasso


Le vendredi 20 juillet 2001, à 08:48, Rene-Raphael a écrit :

> All forms are in POST and most use the BUTTON tag but this HTML 4 tag
> is not support by Internet Explorer 5. We use iCab, a Macintosh browser
> but on PC, i tried Amaya, the w3c browser, ugly but it works.

Unfortunately the form buttons don't work in Netscape 6 either.


-R

-----Original Message-----
From: Dorin Grunberg [mailto:dorin@visgen.com]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 3:33 PM
To: Rene-Raphael; pgsql-php@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [PHP] proposition of a project


Hi!

Just wondering why not use the "<INPUT TYPE="submit" VALUE="Whatever you
want">"; in fact in my IE I can see the buttons and even click on them but
in NS they are just text. Strange.






At 08:48 PM 7/20/01 +0200, Rene-Raphael wrote:


Hello,
        A friend and I, we are creating a "Yet another phpMyAdmin" for
Postgres SQL only and we wish to make it "open source" or under a GNU
licence (but we do not know the exact differences). BOBDII (his nick name)
can:
- Be upgraded simply via config file
(table_name/table_field/upgrade_type.php) for tuple, list, form and data
control
- All texts, colors and other options of the GUI are in cfg file coding
mixing PHP and HTML
- Link between tables (1-1, 1-n, n-n) can be edited, changed and deleted by
WYSIWYG
- Some errors like UNIQUE feedback are catched (other ones like Foreign Keys
are works in progress)
- Tuple history line, so you can easily return and link
- Entry controls like date intervals (10-03-1998 < input < 06-02-2005)
return the form with error messages
- Sort by field name (ASC and DESC option)
- Duplicate a tuple for new entry
- text file and email log
- inheritance support
- quite secure HTTP request (visit id, cookie and ip adress comparison)
- customazable form search
- No Javascript, no Java
...

All forms are in POST and most use the BUTTON tag but this HTML 4 tag is not
support by Internet Explorer 5. We use iCab, a Macintosh browser but on PC,
i tried Amaya, the w3c browser, ugly but it works.

Sure, there is bugs and a lot of TODO but we wish initialized a quite cool
project or to use some parts in a project that is already started.

There is a little demo version (an URL manager) at this URL:
htttp://www.espacelollini.com/demo

Please, send me an email if there is any troubles.

Yours,
        Rene-Raphael Pautasso

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On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:39:35AM +0200, some SMTP stream spewed forth:
> Hello,
>     Thanks for your emails. The BUTTON tag that i use in BOBDII is
> different of the INPUT TYPE="SUBMIT" TAG because of the value send to
> the server and the text display in the form are different.
>
> Example:
> <input name="T_modify" type="submit" value="253">
> At my knowledge, you must put the value of the primary key in the value
> field and it will be show in the HTML document display by your browser.
>
> But with the BUTTON tag, the value of the primary key is HIDDEN and you
> can show to the user what you want in HTML!
>
> <BUTTON NAME="T_modify" VALUE="253">
> <div align="center"><B>Modify</B></div>
> </BUTTON>

<input type=image value="bling bling" src="img/dir/mkbutton.php">
You get the same functionality only it actually works.
You could quite simply hack out a PHP function using GD to generate the
images:
function mkbutton($text)
{
    gd_image_stuffage...
    blah blah
    header('Type: text/image'); /* or whatever */
    gd_send_image() or whatever
    return((bool) gd_stuff_was_successful)
}

I haven't been In The Code in a while, and the gd stuff is all quite well
documented so just go Look It Up. This method sholud work very well.

A simpler approach would be simply to post the primary key as a hidden
input.

People really ought to learn browsers before they go off trying to write
for them.
Same goes for people writing browsers for html, heh.

> Looks cool but IE do not support the BUTTON tag that is a STANDARD HTML
> 4 TAG DEFINE BY W3C(.org) !?!?!?

Yeah, so? What's your point?
Tried using CSS lately? How about any of the other "web specifications".
Get used to it. Mozilla is such a big slow dumb animal that most people
won't use it.

>   I suggest to you to visit this site, the W3C give a free demo browser
> for Windows and Unix named AMAYA that support all HTML 4 tags. I try it
> and it give a very ugly display but it works. I do not know another 100%
> HTML 4 compatible browser exept from Icab(.de), a Mac alternative one
> and i do not know why Microsoft do not support this tag...

I have used Amaya. As you say (in other words), it looks like shit.
You can hardly expect people to use it.
Opera, on the other hand, does a nice job of conforming and looks decent.

> Some of my friends who are not developper like very must this tag
> because of you can generate very attractive HTML pages.
>
> If nobody wants the BUTTON tag, i will use the old friend INPUT tag.
>
>     Yours,
>     Rene-Raphael Pautasso
>
>
> Le vendredi 20 juillet 2001, à 08:48, Rene-Raphael a écrit :
>
> > All forms are in POST and most use the BUTTON tag but this HTML 4 tag
> > is not support by Internet Explorer 5. We use iCab, a Macintosh browser
> > but on PC, i tried Amaya, the w3c browser, ugly but it works.

Ugly, but it works. Yes, much like HTML. :)

gh
Yeah, ino ino, I am quite finished dragging this farther off topic.
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My kid sister does (but then, she prefers pico to vi ...)
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Le mercredi 25 juillet 2001, à 10:23, GH a écrit :<excerpt><excerpt>

</excerpt>

<<input type=image value="bling bling" src="img/dir/mkbutton.php">

You get the same functionality only it actually works.

You could quite simply hack out a PHP function using GD to generate the

images:

function mkbutton($text)

{

    gd_image_stuffage...

    blah blah

    header('Type: text/image'); /* or whatever */

    gd_send_image() or whatever

    return((bool) gd_stuff_was_successful)

}


I haven't been In The Code in a while, and the gd stuff is all quite
well

documented so just go Look It Up. This method sholud work very well.


</excerpt>

I tried <color><param>0000,0000,DEDE</param><<input type=image
name"foo" value="abc" src="img/foo.jpg"> before to use the BUTTON tag
</color>and in PHP 4, at my knowledge, i received two dimension coords
like $foo_x = 125 and $foo_y=256. Not very useful for transmit a
primary key ...<color><param>0000,0000,DEDE</param>

</color><color><param>0000,0000,DEB7</param>

</color>Put primary key in a HIDDEN tag is not low cost solution
because of you must create a form <<FORM ...> <<INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" >
* n times <</FORM> for each rows of a list. In a admin program, i like
to see list and edit only one tuple in a cool HTML page.


I insist because of i do not find a better solution ... and if this
TAG was created by W3C and my favorite browser support it, i will use
it alone until IE and Netscape will support international standards.
Do not not hesitate to send me postcard to my lost island!


A happy and lonely Macintosh user who do not appreciate trust.


Le mercredi 25 juillet 2001, à 10:23, GH a écrit :
>
> <input type=image value="bling bling" src="img/dir/mkbutton.php">
> You get the same functionality only it actually works.
> You could quite simply hack out a PHP function using GD to generate the
> images:
> function mkbutton($text)
> {
>     gd_image_stuffage...
>     blah blah
>     header('Type: text/image'); /* or whatever */
>     gd_send_image() or whatever
>     return((bool) gd_stuff_was_successful)
> }
>
> I haven't been In The Code in a while, and the gd stuff is all quite
> well
> documented so just go Look It Up. This method sholud work very well.
>

I tried <input type=image name"foo" value="abc" src="img/foo.jpg">
before to use the BUTTON tag and in PHP 4, at my knowledge, i received
two dimension coords like $foo_x = 125 and $foo_y=256. Not very useful
for transmit a primary key ...

Put primary key in a HIDDEN tag is not low cost solution because of you
must create a form <FORM ...> <INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" > * n times </FORM>
for each rows of a list. In a admin program, i like to see list and edit
only one tuple in a cool HTML page.

I insist because of i do not find a better solution ... and if this TAG
was created by W3C and my favorite browser support it, i will use it
alone until IE and Netscape will support international standards. Do not
not hesitate to send me postcard to my lost island!

A happy and lonely Macintosh user who do not appreciate trust.

On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:39:35AM +0200, some SMTP stream spewed forth:
> Hello,
>     Thanks for your emails. The BUTTON tag that i use in BOBDII is
> different of the INPUT TYPE="SUBMIT" TAG because of the value send to
> the server and the text display in the form are different.
>
> Example:
> <input name="T_modify" type="submit" value="253">
> At my knowledge, you must put the value of the primary key in the value
> field and it will be show in the HTML document display by your browser.
>
> But with the BUTTON tag, the value of the primary key is HIDDEN and you
> can show to the user what you want in HTML!
>
> <BUTTON NAME="T_modify" VALUE="253">
> <div align="center"><B>Modify</B></div>
> </BUTTON>

<input type=image value="bling bling" src="img/dir/mkbutton.php">
You get the same functionality only it actually works.
You could quite simply hack out a PHP function using GD to generate the
images:
function mkbutton($text)
{
    gd_image_stuffage...
    blah blah
    header('Type: text/image'); /* or whatever */
    gd_send_image() or whatever
    return((bool) gd_stuff_was_successful)
}

I haven't been In The Code in a while, and the gd stuff is all quite well
documented so just go Look It Up. This method sholud work very well.

A simpler approach would be simply to post the primary key as a hidden
input.

People really ought to learn browsers before they go off trying to write
for them.
Same goes for people writing browsers for html, heh.

> Looks cool but IE do not support the BUTTON tag that is a STANDARD HTML
> 4 TAG DEFINE BY W3C(.org) !?!?!?

Yeah, so? What's your point?
Tried using CSS lately? How about any of the other "web specifications".
Get used to it. Mozilla is such a big slow dumb animal that most people
won't use it.

>   I suggest to you to visit this site, the W3C give a free demo browser
> for Windows and Unix named AMAYA that support all HTML 4 tags. I try it
> and it give a very ugly display but it works. I do not know another 100%
> HTML 4 compatible browser exept from Icab(.de), a Mac alternative one
> and i do not know why Microsoft do not support this tag...

I have used Amaya. As you say (in other words), it looks like shit.
You can hardly expect people to use it.
Opera, on the other hand, does a nice job of conforming and looks decent.

> Some of my friends who are not developper like very must this tag
> because of you can generate very attractive HTML pages.
>
> If nobody wants the BUTTON tag, i will use the old friend INPUT tag.
>
>     Yours,
>     Rene-Raphael Pautasso
>
>
> Le vendredi 20 juillet 2001, à 08:48, Rene-Raphael a écrit :
>
> > All forms are in POST and most use the BUTTON tag but this HTML 4 tag
> > is not support by Internet Explorer 5. We use iCab, a Macintosh browser
> > but on PC, i tried Amaya, the w3c browser, ugly but it works.

Ugly, but it works. Yes, much like HTML. :)

gh
Yeah, ino ino, I am quite finished dragging this farther off topic.
--
What, no one sings along with Ricky Martin anymore?
My kid sister does (but then, she prefers pico to vi ...)
    -- Suresh Ramasubramanian, alt.sysadmin.recovery


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