Thread: Upgrading from PostgreSQL 7.4.3

Upgrading from PostgreSQL 7.4.3

From
peter@vfemail.net
Date:
I'm running PostgreSQL version 7.4.3 on a Dell PowerEdge SC400 running FreeBSD 4.10.  Fresh SCSI drives were installed
inthe server a week ago.  A variety of Perl, PHP, shell and perhaps other scripts read read from the database, write
recordsto the database, and otherwise shuffle data here, there and everywhere all day, every weekday.  Rebuilding the
serverfrom ground zero isn't a viable option.  I'm clueless what is dependent on anything else.  Because the system was
builtby a number of people over a period of many years, there is no one person who understands the system in its
entirety. . . other than when something doesn't work it's a headache.   

Where do I begin the upgrade process?  What litmus test can I use to separate those who have the requisite skill to do
thejob and those who don't?  For someone with the necessary skills, what's a reasonable range of hours required for
themto do what needs to be done?   

Thank you in advance for your insights and guidance.







Re: Upgrading from PostgreSQL 7.4.3

From
Tom Lane
Date:
peter@vfemail.net writes:
> I'm running PostgreSQL version 7.4.3 on a Dell PowerEdge SC400 running FreeBSD 4.10.  Fresh SCSI drives were
installedin the server a week ago.  A variety of Perl, PHP, shell and perhaps other scripts read read from the
database,write records to the database, and otherwise shuffle data here, there and everywhere all day, every weekday.
Rebuildingthe server from ground zero isn't a viable option.  I'm clueless what is dependent on anything else.  Because
thesystem was built by a number of people over a period of many years, there is no one person who understands the
systemin its entirety . . . other than when something doesn't work it's a headache.   

> Where do I begin the upgrade process?

Well, the first, urgent priority for you is to update in place from
7.4.3 to 7.4.something-recent.  You are missing nearly six years worth
of bug fixes, some of them quite critical.  After that you will want to
consider updating to a more modern release series, preferably 8.4.x.
That will require a dump-and-reload, which might be painful depending
on how large your database is.  However the larger pain will be
application compatibility testing --- you'll need to test all those
various scripts to see if there are changes needed to work with the
newer PG version.

There have been some security fixes in the 7.4.x series that changed
application-visible behavior (because there was no other way to plug
the security hole).  So there is a small chance that you'd need script
fixes even for an update within 7.4.x --- you'll want to look at the
release notes to try to gauge whether you'll be affected.  I'd say it's
a lead-pipe cinch that you'll need to fix some things to move up to
8.4, though...

The release notes are here:
http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/release.html
and you should definitely study the relevant pages for whichever
update you intend to undertake.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Upgrading from PostgreSQL 7.4.3

From
peter@vfemail.net
Date:
The latest PostgreSQL 7.4.x version is 7.4.28.  Does that mean I need to do 25 separate updates or does Release 7.4.28
containall of the prior updates to version 7.4?   

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At 06:02 PM 4/14/2010, Tom Lane wrote:
>peter@vfemail.net writes:
>> I'm running PostgreSQL version 7.4.3 on a Dell PowerEdge SC400 running FreeBSD 4.10.  Fresh SCSI drives were
installedin the server a week ago.  A variety of Perl, PHP, shell and perhaps other scripts read read from the
database,write records to the database, and otherwise shuffle data here, there and everywhere all day, every weekday.
Rebuildingthe server from ground zero isn't a viable option.  I'm clueless what is dependent on anything else.  Because
thesystem was built by a number of people over a period of many years, there is no one person who understands the
systemin its entirety . . . other than when something doesn't work it's a headache.   
>
>> Where do I begin the upgrade process?
>
>Well, the first, urgent priority for you is to update in place from
>7.4.3 to 7.4.something-recent.  You are missing nearly six years worth
>of bug fixes, some of them quite critical.  After that you will want to
>consider updating to a more modern release series, preferably 8.4.x.
>That will require a dump-and-reload, which might be painful depending
>on how large your database is.  However the larger pain will be
>application compatibility testing --- you'll need to test all those
>various scripts to see if there are changes needed to work with the
>newer PG version.
>
>There have been some security fixes in the 7.4.x series that changed
>application-visible behavior (because there was no other way to plug
>the security hole).  So there is a small chance that you'd need script
>fixes even for an update within 7.4.x --- you'll want to look at the
>release notes to try to gauge whether you'll be affected.  I'd say it's
>a lead-pipe cinch that you'll need to fix some things to move up to
>8.4, though...
>
>The release notes are here:
>http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/release.html
>and you should definitely study the relevant pages for whichever
>update you intend to undertake.
>
>                        regards, tom lane
>
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Re: Upgrading from PostgreSQL 7.4.3

From
Tom Lane
Date:
peter@vfemail.net writes:
> The latest PostgreSQL 7.4.x version is 7.4.28.  Does that mean I need to do 25 separate updates or does Release
7.4.28contain all of the prior updates to version 7.4?   

No, 7.4.28 is a cumulative update that you can install immediately.  You
should look at all the release note pages for the intermediate updates,
though, because we don't cumulate the release notes ;-)

            regards, tom lane

Re: Upgrading from PostgreSQL 7.4.3

From
peter@vfemail.net
Date:
What a relief.  Thank you, Mr. Lane.  I'll start reading today.

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At 10:29 PM 4/14/2010, Tom Lane wrote:
>peter@vfemail.net writes:
>> The latest PostgreSQL 7.4.x version is 7.4.28.  Does that mean I need to do 25 separate updates or does Release
7.4.28contain all of the prior updates to version 7.4?   
>
>No, 7.4.28 is a cumulative update that you can install immediately.  You
>should look at all the release note pages for the intermediate updates,
>though, because we don't cumulate the release notes ;-)
>
>                        regards, tom lane
>
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