Thread: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
"Sugrue, Sean"
Date:
I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and
client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query
speed
using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope with Python, but I'm
not
not sure it's worth the time investment, given that it is not as easy to
learn
as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that show histogram and
other statistical
tools. What do you think? And what are other people using?

Sean
Product Test Engineer
Pilot production group

Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
Nabil Sayegh
Date:
Am Die, 2003-05-27 um 21.07 schrieb Sugrue, Sean:
> I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and
> client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query

This is definitely the wrong list for such a question.

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Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
Aarni Ruuhimäki
Date:
Hello,

We have been using CF Pro Linux on RH-machine for about two years now. It is
very fast and powerful for all kinds of applications but has some typical
non-native features like enormous memory consumption. And the license. The
license price is not maybe too bad, considering that with a single machine
license you can manage a virtual domain server.

BR,

aarni

On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:07, you wrote:
> I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and
> client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query
> speed
> using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope with Python, but I'm
> not
> not sure it's worth the time investment, given that it is not as easy to
> learn
> as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that show histogram and
> other statistical
> tools. What do you think? And what are other people using?
>
> Sean
> Product Test Engineer
> Pilot production group
>
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Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
Ewald Geschwinde
Date:
Nabil Sayegh wrote:

>Am Die, 2003-05-27 um 21.07 schrieb Sugrue, Sean:
>
>
>>I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and
>>client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query
>>
>>
>
>This is definitely the wrong list for such a question.
>
>
>
why is this the wrong list???
it's a general question and about postgresql !!!!
did not understand your response

Depends on your need
If you want to make a big professional thing use zope. take a look at
www.plone.org

I have no experience with cold fusion so no answer.
If you want to uild your own special thing from scratch use PHP

Regards
Ewald Geschwinde


Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
"Molenda, Mark P"
Date:
Cold Fusion is a very good tool and can be used with Java / JSP / or Java
Script.
It is a very main stream tool.  If for some reason you wanted to separate
the presentation
(web page) from the backend (postgres) it could very easily be done.

It is also very easily understood by html folks without a tremendous amount
of programming experience.

From what I understand Zope is very powerful but has a substantial learning
curve.

-Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Aarni Ruuhimäki [mailto:aarni.ruuhimaki@kymi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 4:18 PM
To: Sugrue, Sean
Cc: pgsql-novice
Subject: Re: [NOVICE] PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope


Hello,

We have been using CF Pro Linux on RH-machine for about two years now. It is

very fast and powerful for all kinds of applications but has some typical
non-native features like enormous memory consumption. And the license. The
license price is not maybe too bad, considering that with a single machine
license you can manage a virtual domain server.

BR,

aarni

On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:07, you wrote:
> I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and
> client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query
> speed using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope with Python,
> but I'm not
> not sure it's worth the time investment, given that it is not as easy to
> learn
> as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that show histogram and
> other statistical
> tools. What do you think? And what are other people using?
>
> Sean
> Product Test Engineer
> Pilot production group
>
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>     (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org)

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Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
"Jorge Ramirez"
Date:
You could use also "MASON", http://www.masonhq.com
it is like php but you use perl to develop your applications, it is so good,
hope this help you
Best Regards,
Jorge Ramirez.
http://www.chicolinux.com.mx


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ewald Geschwinde" <webmaster@geschwinde.net>
To: "Nabil Sayegh" <postgresql@e-trolley.de>
Cc: "Sugrue, Sean" <Sean.Sugrue@analog.com>; "pgsql-novice"
<pgsql-novice@postgresql.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NOVICE] PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope


> Nabil Sayegh wrote:
>
> >Am Die, 2003-05-27 um 21.07 schrieb Sugrue, Sean:
> >
> >
> >>I am looking for some opinions on what to use for WEB development and
> >>client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use) along with query
> >>
> >>
> >
> >This is definitely the wrong list for such a question.
> >
> >
> >
> why is this the wrong list???
> it's a general question and about postgresql !!!!
> did not understand your response
>
> Depends on your need
> If you want to make a big professional thing use zope. take a look at
> www.plone.org
>
> I have no experience with cold fusion so no answer.
> If you want to uild your own special thing from scratch use PHP
>
> Regards
> Ewald Geschwinde
>
>
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Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
Terence Ng
Date:
Would you consider "Webware"?  It is written in
python, and you can write what you want in python
rather than dtml in Zope.

http://webware.sourceforge.net/

 --- "Sugrue, Sean" <Sean.Sugrue@analog.com> wrote: >
> I am looking for some opinions on what to use for
> WEB development and
> client interface (i.e. functionality, ease of use)
> along with query
> speed
> using Postgresql. My colleagues are pushing zope
> with Python, but I'm
> not
> not sure it's worth the time investment, given that
> it is not as easy to
> learn
> as PHP or CF for basic functional Web pages that
> show histogram and
> other statistical
> tools. What do you think? And what are other people
> using?
>
> Sean
> Product Test Engineer
> Pilot production group
>
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> broadcast)---------------------------
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Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
Josh Berkus
Date:
Sean,

Or, just to confuse the issue, there is an OSS project with a web application
framework built in C++.   It's called OAS server ... google it.

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Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: PHP vs Cold Fusion vs Zope

From
Nabil Sayegh
Date:
Could this please be discussed in a more suited list ?
I really don't see what this has to do with postgresql.

thx
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