Thread: driver source code indentation
I suggest that the JDBC driver adopt PostgreSQL's indentation standards (see PostgreSQL developers FAQ, question 1). I see that some source files have used this standard, but the vast majority do not. We should have a standard for consistency and our own sanity if nothing else. Liam -- Liam Stewart :: Red Hat Canada, Ltd. :: liams@redhat.com
> > I suggest that the JDBC driver adopt PostgreSQL's indentation standards > (see PostgreSQL developers FAQ, question 1). I see that some source > files have used this standard, but the vast majority do not. We should > have a standard for consistency and our own sanity if nothing else. Glad someone brought this up. A while ago I wrote: I tried pgindent but it doesn't understand Java and made a mess of it. I used astyle with the options: $ astyle --style=java -j *.java I have the reformatted jdbc files at: ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/astyle_jdbc.tar.gz I must say it looks very good. Can people tak a look at that and see if they like it? I will work on astyle to find a format that matches the main code indenting. If you like it, I will indent just after we go beta. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
I agree that this is needed. In fact I know Bruce wants to do something in this area. In fact he sent out a few months ago a sample of the code after it had been cleaned up by some tool. At the time no one seemed to be very interested. Going forward for 7.2 I think now is the time that something should be done. We need the equivalent of pgindent for java. I am OK with the style used for the C code. However I would like the following additional step done for the java code: replace all tabs with spaces. I often end up viewing files in editors/viewers other than the one I normally code with. Having to worry about getting the tab settings correct so that the code is readable is a pain (and sometimes not possible depending on the editor). I have personally adopted in my java IDE of choice (JBuilder) to have the IDE automatically replace tabs with spaces for this reason. thanks, --Barry Liam Stewart wrote: > I suggest that the JDBC driver adopt PostgreSQL's indentation standards > (see PostgreSQL developers FAQ, question 1). I see that some source > files have used this standard, but the vast majority do not. We should > have a standard for consistency and our own sanity if nothing else. > > Liam > >
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 03:25:33PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I must say it looks very good. > > Can people tak a look at that and see if they like it? I will work on > astyle to find a format that matches the main code indenting. I like it. The following results in a closer match to the main PostgreSQL code: $ astyle --style=java -b -p -j foo.java I'm in agreement with Barry about using spaces instead of tabs. astyle does that by default (at least with the java style). > If you like it, I will indent just after we go beta. Yes, please. Liam -- Liam Stewart :: Red Hat Canada, Ltd. :: liams@redhat.com
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 12:43:21PM -0700, Barry Lind wrote: <snip> > I am OK with the style used for the C code. However I would like the > following additional step done for the java code: replace all tabs with > spaces. Oh noooooo! Barry's stumbled over the tripwire of the Tab/Spaces flamewar trap! Everyone duck! More seriously, this was actually voted on some time ago. (Check the HACKERS archives) Since the JDBC source is well segregated from the rest of the tree, it can have a different style, but if you want to adopt the 'standard' style, I'd suggest going all the way. In the other hand, since you'll need to use a different tool to maintain the style (unless Bruce update his pgident to handle java ...) it'll never be completely the same, anyway. I'd image that the core developers will go with whatever the JDBC maintainers want. Ross
Barry Lind <barry@xythos.com> writes: > I am OK with the style used for the C code. However I would like the > following additional step done for the java code: replace all tabs with > spaces. I disagree with this, because then we are *not* applying the same coding standards in the backend and in JDBC. If you want to propose that we dispense with tabs throughout the system, feel free to propose that --- but it was shot down last time and likely will be again. I personally concur that four-space tabs is a horrible standard, and would much rather see us using eight-space tab stops. But I haven't been able to obtain any significant consensus for that view. Some developers apparently use editors where a physical tab character needs to equal the logical indent amount... regards, tom lane
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Can people tak a look at that and see if they like it? I will work on > astyle to find a format that matches the main code indenting. > > If you like it, I will indent just after we go beta. Looks great! I only noticed two things that I sort of disliked. Luckily this seems to be the only differences between the example and the standard used in the C sources! :) It's also the only differences between the example and Sun's standard that I could see. * Missing a space between "if" and "(". * Missing a space after a type cast. /Anders _____________________________________________________________________ A n d e r s B e n g t s s o n ndrsbngtssn@yahoo.se Stockholm, Sweden _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 04:59:20PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Barry Lind <barry@xythos.com> writes: > > I am OK with the style used for the C code. However I would like the > > following additional step done for the java code: replace all tabs with > > spaces. > > I disagree with this, because then we are *not* applying the same coding > standards in the backend and in JDBC. If you want to propose that we > dispense with tabs throughout the system, feel free to propose that --- > but it was shot down last time and likely will be again. > > I personally concur that four-space tabs is a horrible standard, and > would much rather see us using eight-space tab stops. But I haven't > been able to obtain any significant consensus for that view. Some > developers apparently use editors where a physical tab character needs > to equal the logical indent amount... I'm putting in my vote for keeping tabs and not using spaces. The thing I love about tabs is the ability to change the tabstop according to your needs. It's a flexibility that you don't get with spaces. Then again I do all my coding in vim. Other than that I'm all for cleaning up the source code to the one standard. Go for it! Tom. -- Thomas O'Dowd. - Nooping - http://nooper.com tom@nooper.com - Testing - http://nooper.co.jp/labs
Well, my vote would be for a 2 space indent. Dave On Tue, 2001-09-04 at 16:59, Tom Lane wrote: > Barry Lind <barry@xythos.com> writes: > > I am OK with the style used for the C code. However I would like the > > following additional step done for the java code: replace all tabs with > > spaces. > > I disagree with this, because then we are *not* applying the same coding > standards in the backend and in JDBC. If you want to propose that we > dispense with tabs throughout the system, feel free to propose that --- > but it was shot down last time and likely will be again. > > I personally concur that four-space tabs is a horrible standard, and > would much rather see us using eight-space tab stops. But I haven't > been able to obtain any significant consensus for that view. Some > developers apparently use editors where a physical tab character needs > to equal the logical indent amount... > > regards, tom lane > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html > >
This does look good, I personally prefer more whitespace After ( and , as well as moving the opening brace to the next line. Public int foo(int x,int y){ x=y; } Turns into Public int foo( int x, int y ) { x = y; } I find this easier to read. Comments? Dave -----Original Message----- From: pgsql-jdbc-owner@postgresql.org [mailto:pgsql-jdbc-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Momjian Sent: September 4, 2001 3:26 PM To: Liam Stewart Cc: pgsql-jdbc@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [JDBC] driver source code indentation > > I suggest that the JDBC driver adopt PostgreSQL's indentation > standards > (see PostgreSQL developers FAQ, question 1). I see that some source > files have used this standard, but the vast majority do not. We should > have a standard for consistency and our own sanity if nothing else. Glad someone brought this up. A while ago I wrote: I tried pgindent but it doesn't understand Java and made a mess of it. I used astyle with the options: $ astyle --style=java -j *.java I have the reformatted jdbc files at: ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/astyle_jdbc.tar.gz I must say it looks very good. Can people tak a look at that and see if they like it? I will work on astyle to find a format that matches the main code indenting. If you like it, I will indent just after we go beta. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:25:33 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > I have the reformatted jdbc files at: > > ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/astyle_jdbc.tar.gz > >Can people tak a look at that and see if they like it? > > The developer's FAQ says "Our standard format is to indent each > code level with one tab, where each tab is four spaces", but in > the reformatted files I don't see any tabs. It indents > everything with spaces. Is that intentional? Should have tabs. Let me work on a new version. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:06:29 -0400, you wrote: >Public int foo(int x,int y){ > x=y; >} > >Turns into > >Public int foo( int x, int y ) >{ > x = y; >} > > >I find this easier to read. I agree. This is my preference as well in Java. Regards, René Pijlman <rene@lab.applinet.nl>
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:25:33 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > I have the reformatted jdbc files at: > ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/astyle_jdbc.tar.gz >Can people tak a look at that and see if they like it? The developer's FAQ says "Our standard format is to indent each code level with one tab, where each tab is four spaces", but in the reformatted files I don't see any tabs. It indents everything with spaces. Is that intentional? Regards, René Pijlman <rene@lab.applinet.nl>
Dave, I agree with you, and it seems that much of the existing jdbc code is formated that way. But before starting a thread on what everybody prefers as their java format, let me first ask the question: Should the jdbc java code use the same formatting as the C code? If the answer is yes, then we know what the format is going to be. Else we can have what I am sure will be a long religious battle on what style would be best for the java code. My personal vote is to stick with the same format as the C code. While personally I think a different format would be better, I don't think it is worth the hassle, and I can live with the existing format. thanks, --Barry Dave Cramer wrote: > Well, my vote would be for a 2 space indent. > > Dave > On Tue, 2001-09-04 at 16:59, Tom Lane wrote: > >>Barry Lind <barry@xythos.com> writes: >> >>>I am OK with the style used for the C code. However I would like the >>>following additional step done for the java code: replace all tabs with >>>spaces. >>> >>I disagree with this, because then we are *not* applying the same coding >>standards in the backend and in JDBC. If you want to propose that we >>dispense with tabs throughout the system, feel free to propose that --- >>but it was shot down last time and likely will be again. >> >>I personally concur that four-space tabs is a horrible standard, and >>would much rather see us using eight-space tab stops. But I haven't >>been able to obtain any significant consensus for that view. Some >>developers apparently use editors where a physical tab character needs >>to equal the logical indent amount... >> >> regards, tom lane >> >>---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- >>TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? >> >>http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html >> >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate > subscribe-nomail command to majordomo@postgresql.org so that your > message can get through to the mailing list cleanly > >
> Dave, > > I agree with you, and it seems that much of the existing jdbc code is > formated that way. But before starting a thread on what everybody > prefers as their java format, let me first ask the question: > > > Should the jdbc java code use the same formatting as the C code? > > If the answer is yes, then we know what the format is going to be. Else > we can have what I am sure will be a long religious battle on what style > would be best for the java code. > > My personal vote is to stick with the same format as the C code. While > personally I think a different format would be better, I don't think it > is worth the hassle, and I can live with the existing format. > Agreed. That is the direction I am heading. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:51:19AM -0700, Barry Lind wrote: > Should the jdbc java code use the same formatting as the C code? IMHO, yes: for consistency and because it is, at the moment, part of the main "package". Liam -- Liam Stewart :: Red Hat Canada, Ltd. :: liams@redhat.com
> > On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 03:25:33PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I must say it looks very good. > > > > Can people tak a look at that and see if they like it? I will work on > > astyle to find a format that matches the main code indenting. > > I like it. The following results in a closer match to the main > PostgreSQL code: > > $ astyle --style=java -b -p -j foo.java > > I'm in agreement with Barry about using spaces instead of tabs. astyle > does that by default (at least with the java style). OK, I have created pgjindent in src/tools/pgindent, and ran it over the current CVS. It compiles so it should be fine: ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/astyle_jdbc.tar.gz I am using the same formatting as the PostgreSQL C code, including tab size. I will run this before beta. I will also fix the "if(" to "if (". Any other issues, please let me know. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 17:25:19 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >OK, I have created pgjindent in src/tools/pgindent, and ran it over the >current CVS. It compiles so it should be fine: > > ftp://candle.pha.pa.us/pub/postgresql/astyle_jdbc.tar.gz This looks good. Regards, René Pijlman <rene@lab.applinet.nl>