Thread: Cascaded standby message

Cascaded standby message

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
From what I can tell, everytime I start a postmaster on HEAD (at least
when i've set wal_level=archive, and max_wal_senders > 0), I get the
message:
LOG:  terminating all walsender processes to force cascaded standby(s)
to update timeline and reconnect

in the startup log.

This is long before I've connected any slaves or even considered
cascading standbys - seems this message is written unnecessarily?

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Re: Cascaded standby message

From
Simon Riggs
Date:
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> wrote:

> From what I can tell, everytime I start a postmaster on HEAD (at least
> when i've set wal_level=archive, and max_wal_senders > 0), I get the
> message:
> LOG:  terminating all walsender processes to force cascaded standby(s)
> to update timeline and reconnect
>
> in the startup log.
>
> This is long before I've connected any slaves or even considered
> cascading standbys - seems this message is written unnecessarily?

I think this should be removed and will do that.

Fujii - the original goal here was to avoid having a unexplained
disconnection in the logs. The only way to do this cleanly is to have
a disconnection reason passed to the walsender, rather than just a
blind signal. Looks like we need to multiplex or other mechanism.

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Re: Cascaded standby message

From
Fujii Masao
Date:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> Fujii - the original goal here was to avoid having a unexplained
> disconnection in the logs. The only way to do this cleanly is to have
> a disconnection reason passed to the walsender, rather than just a
> blind signal. Looks like we need to multiplex or other mechanism.

That's an idea. But what about the patch that I proposed before?
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-08/msg00816.php

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Re: Cascaded standby message

From
Magnus Hagander
Date:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 03:44, Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>> Fujii - the original goal here was to avoid having a unexplained
>> disconnection in the logs. The only way to do this cleanly is to have
>> a disconnection reason passed to the walsender, rather than just a
>> blind signal. Looks like we need to multiplex or other mechanism.
>
> That's an idea. But what about the patch that I proposed before?
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-08/msg00816.php

Seems like a good solution to me - I hadn't noticed that patch before
posting my complaint.

I don't think it's a problem if it logs it multiple times when it
happens - I think it's a much bigger problem that it logs it when it
didn't actually do anything.

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Re: Cascaded standby message

From
Simon Riggs
Date:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>> Fujii - the original goal here was to avoid having a unexplained
>> disconnection in the logs. The only way to do this cleanly is to have
>> a disconnection reason passed to the walsender, rather than just a
>> blind signal. Looks like we need to multiplex or other mechanism.
>
> That's an idea. But what about the patch that I proposed before?
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-08/msg00816.php

Thanks for that. Committed.

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Re: Cascaded standby message

From
Thom Brown
Date:
On 7 September 2011 11:56, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>> Fujii - the original goal here was to avoid having a unexplained
>> disconnection in the logs. The only way to do this cleanly is to have
>> a disconnection reason passed to the walsender, rather than just a
>> blind signal. Looks like we need to multiplex or other mechanism.
>
> That's an idea. But what about the patch that I proposed before?
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-08/msg00816.php

Thanks for that. Committed.

This appears to be the patch submitted to the commitfest.  https://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/patch_view?id=630  Can this now be marked as committed?

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Re: Cascaded standby message

From
Fujii Masao
Date:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thom Brown <thom@linux.com> wrote:
> On 7 September 2011 11:56, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>> > That's an idea. But what about the patch that I proposed before?
>> > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2011-08/msg00816.php
>>
>> Thanks for that. Committed.

Thanks!

> This appears to be the patch submitted to the commitfest.
>  https://commitfest.postgresql.org/action/patch_view?id=630  Can this now be
> marked as committed?

Yes. I did that. Thanks!

Regards,

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