Thread: who gets paid for this
Hi all, I'm a grad student at UC Davis studying the postgres community and I wanted to know if some on this list could help me out. I'm studying the factors that affect people "graduating" from being mailing list participant to developers with write access to the repository. Is it possible to find out who is being employed to work on postgres and who is doing it on their own time? Some of my data points to there being two ways that people make the jump. More specifically, could those who worked on apache as some aspect of their job prior to getting repo access let me know? Or if there are devs who know this information about others, I'd be really appreciative to get it. Thanks a lot. -- Christian Bird -- Christian Bird cabird@gmail.com
Christian, >More specifically, could those > who worked on apache as some aspect of their job prior to getting repo > access let me know? Or if there are devs who know this information > about others, I'd be really appreciative to get it. Hmmm. Wrong project. And I think you're making the (incorrect) assumption that granting commit rights works the same way in all projects. It does not. How about you call me and we can chat about how the PostgreSQL project actually works? 415-752-2500. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco
Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes:
> Christian,
>> More specifically, could those
>> who worked on apache as some aspect of their job prior to getting repo
>> access let me know? Or if there are devs who know this information
>> about others, I'd be really appreciative to get it.
> Hmmm. Wrong project. And I think you're making the (incorrect) assumption
> that granting commit rights works the same way in all projects. It does
> not.
Even more to the point, "getting paid for" has almost nothing to do
with "has commit privileges". At least on this project.
regards, tom lane
Tom Lane wrote: > > Even more to the point, "getting paid for" has almost nothing to do > with "has commit privileges". At least on this project. > > Darn. So the cheque isn't really in the mail? cheers andrew
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 12:10:22 -0800, Christian Bird <cabird@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm a grad student at UC Davis studying the postgres community and I > wanted to know if some on this list could help me out. I'm studying > the factors that affect people "graduating" from being mailing list > participant to developers with write access to the repository. Is it > possible to find out who is being employed to work on postgres and who > is doing it on their own time? Some of my data points to there being > two ways that people make the jump. More specifically, could those > who worked on apache as some aspect of their job prior to getting repo > access let me know? Or if there are devs who know this information > about others, I'd be really appreciative to get it. Thanks a lot. Si Chen from Open Source Strategies talked to a number of mailing list contributors (which is different than code contributors) a year or two ago. They are supposed to have a web page about this at http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/pgsurvey/control/main but I am getting a 500 error right now. The rest of their web pages are working, so they may still be there. There is a contact link on their main page which you might use to contact them and see if you can get access to those results.
Andrew Dunstan wrote: > Tom Lane wrote: >> >> Even more to the point, "getting paid for" has almost nothing to do >> with "has commit privileges". At least on this project. >> >> > > Darn. So the cheque isn't really in the mail? I think his question was just which ratio of developers works on PostgreSQL on company time. regards, Lukas
Christian Bird wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a grad student at UC Davis studying the postgres community and I
> wanted to know if some on this list could help me out. I'm studying
> the factors that affect people "graduating" from being mailing list
> participant to developers with write access to the repository.
It is done on a meritocracy basis and has zero bearing if the person is
paid to work on PostgreSQL or not.
I believe (would need verification) that it is -core who decides who
gets actual commit privileges.
Joshua D. Drake
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Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Christian Bird wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm a grad student at UC Davis studying the postgres community and I >> wanted to know if some on this list could help me out. I'm studying >> the factors that affect people "graduating" from being mailing list >> participant to developers with write access to the repository. > > It is done on a meritocracy basis and has zero bearing if the person is > paid to work on PostgreSQL or not. > > I believe (would need verification) that it is -core who decides who > gets actual commit privileges. It is. Note also that not all of core are committers. /D
I didn't mean to imply that getting paid is correlated with getting commit privileges. However, there is literature that supports the idea that those who are under employ to help in OSS projects may behave differently than those who are contributing in their free time (check out http://gsyc.info/~jjamor/research/papers/2006-gsd-herraiz-robles-amor-romera-barahona.pdf).We're trying to getan idea if there are perhaps two different phenomena in our data. We're trying to separate those who have commit privileges into those employed by a company to help out as part of their job and those who do so in their free time at the time of their first commit. I really appreciate any help that you can provide. If it appears that I'm making incorrect assumptions about how the community works, please feel free to correct me or point me to resources. Thanks. -- Chris On 3/8/07, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> writes: > > Christian, > >> More specifically, could those > >> who worked on apache as some aspect of their job prior to getting repo > >> access let me know? Or if there are devs who know this information > >> about others, I'd be really appreciative to get it. > > > Hmmm. Wrong project. And I think you're making the (incorrect) assumption > > that granting commit rights works the same way in all projects. It does > > not. > > Even more to the point, "getting paid for" has almost nothing to do > with "has commit privileges". At least on this project. > > regards, tom lane > -- Christian Bird cabird@gmail.com
Dave Page wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Christian Bird wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm a grad student at UC Davis studying the postgres community and I > >> wanted to know if some on this list could help me out. I'm studying > >> the factors that affect people "graduating" from being mailing list > >> participant to developers with write access to the repository. > > > > It is done on a meritocracy basis and has zero bearing if the person is > > paid to work on PostgreSQL or not. > > > > I believe (would need verification) that it is -core who decides who > > gets actual commit privileges. > > It is. Note also that not all of core are committers. And many committers are not core. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +