Thread: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ?
> -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:peter_e@gmx.net] > Sent: 17 November 2003 23:31 > To: Josh Berkus > Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] [pgsql-advocacy] Not 7.5, but 8.0 ? > > Josh Berkus writes: > > > Given all that, don't people think it's time to jump to 8.0? > > As has been said before, many people think that a Windows > port is the least interesting feature ever to happen to > PostgreSQL, so you're going to have to come up with better > reasons. Least interesting to many user perhaps, but lost of them seen to think that it's important for expanding our userbase: http://www.postgresql.org/survey.php?View=1&SurveyID=9 That can't be a bad thing. Regards, Dave.
Dave Page writes: > Least interesting to many user perhaps, but lost of them seen to think > that it's important for expanding our userbase: > http://www.postgresql.org/survey.php?View=1&SurveyID=9 That survey is a bit like asking television viewers, "What do you think would attract the most new television viewers?" 33% -- better entertainment That does not say that better entertainment will attract new viewers, just that the existing viewers think that. Most nonviewers might in fact be perfectly content with their way of living. -- Peter Eisentraut peter_e@gmx.net
Peter, Well, based on the feedback we're getting from the 7.4 release, the #1 issue for non-postgresql users who are interested enough to post to message boards is "Where is the Windows Port?" This gets mentioned roughly 10 times as often as any other potential feature. So the Windows port is a mostly question of what matters to people who *aren't* using PostgreSQL currently, assuming we want our community to grow (and I think we do, since communities which don't grow die). For many if not most of our current users it doesn't matter as much, becuase if it did they wouldn't be using PostgreSQL. But it affects current users too. I had to pass on two potential contracts in 2003 because the use of Windows servers was stipulated. The second of these I was really put out about since it was a scheduling application, something that both I and PostgreSQL excel at were it not on Windows. You probably aren't faced with this issue as much in Germany, but it happens often to us folks in the US & Canada. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:24:25AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote: > Well, based on the feedback we're getting from the 7.4 release, the #1 issue > for non-postgresql users who are interested enough to post to message boards > is "Where is the Windows Port?" This gets mentioned roughly 10 times as This is also, by the way, a reason not to say, "_X_ is planned for the next release," unless there is acutal working code kicking around. Lots of people saw the remarks (I am among the guilty for repeating it, I think) that a Windows port seemed to be planned for 7.4. So some of us were guilty of flogging vapourware, I'm afraid. A -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Afilias Canada Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@libertyrms.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x110
Hi > You > probably aren't faced with this issue as much in Germany, but it happens > often to us folks in the US & Canada. About half of the mails that I get are Cygwin-Windows related. So I consider it of great interest in Germany. Regards Conni