Thread: Mirro updates
Hi every one, Is it normal that mirro site now all redirect to www.postgresql.org? It also seem that rsync is doing nothing when updating www... Regards -- Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery)
for the web, yes ... the new site doesn't support mirroring, as its highly
database driven ... only thing still mirrorable, really, is the ftp
server ...
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 ohp@pyrenet.fr wrote:
> Hi every one,
>
> Is it normal that mirro site now all redirect to www.postgresql.org?
>
> It also seem that rsync is doing nothing when updating www...
>
> Regards
>
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > for the web, yes ... the new site doesn't support mirroring, as its highly > database driven ... only thing still mirrorable, really, is the ftp > server ... I knew that was gonna happen. Vince. -- Fast, inexpensive internet service 56k and beyond! http://www.pop4.net/ http://www.meanstreamradio.com http://www.unknown-artists.com Internet radio: It's not file sharing, it's just radio.
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > > for the web, yes ... the new site doesn't support mirroring, as its highly > > database driven ... only thing still mirrorable, really, is the ftp > > server ... > > I knew that was gonna happen. So did we ... :)
Hi vince, Hi Marc Although I understand why, I think it's a bit f a pity that there's no mirror of web anymore. For that it means that 1) every thing is now on your shoulders and that if anything goes wrong you've got no mirror to rely on. BUT the Good thing is it advocates for database replication as this could make mirrors run again :) On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:34:40 -0300 (ADT) > From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@postgresql.org> > To: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> > Cc: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@postgresql.org>, ohp@pyrenet.fr, > pgsql-hackers list <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org> > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > > > > > for the web, yes ... the new site doesn't support mirroring, as its highly > > > database driven ... only thing still mirrorable, really, is the ftp > > > server ... > > > > I knew that was gonna happen. > > So did we ... :) > You have not warned us :) -- Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery)
> -----Original Message----- > From: ohp@pyrenet.fr [mailto:ohp@pyrenet.fr] > Sent: 13 June 2003 15:19 > To: pgsql-hackers list > Subject: [HACKERS] Mirro updates > > > Hi every one, > > Is it normal that mirro site now all redirect to www.postgresql.org? > > It also seem that rsync is doing nothing when updating www... Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored due to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering different ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way. Regards, Dave.
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 ohp@pyrenet.fr wrote: > Hi vince, Hi Marc > > Although I understand why, I think it's a bit f a pity that there's no > mirror of web anymore. For that it means that 1) every thing is now on > your shoulders and that if anything goes wrong you've got no mirror to > rely on. > > BUT the Good thing is it advocates for database replication as this could > make mirrors run again :) God, I never enough thought about that ... a read-only replication would be *very* easy to setup ... Dave/Robert? Thoughts?
Then, I'm all ears and ready to help if I can On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:21:48 -0300 (ADT) > From: The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@postgresql.org> > To: ohp@pyrenet.fr > Cc: pgsql-hackers list <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org> > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 ohp@pyrenet.fr wrote: > > > Hi vince, Hi Marc > > > > Although I understand why, I think it's a bit f a pity that there's no > > mirror of web anymore. For that it means that 1) every thing is now on > > your shoulders and that if anything goes wrong you've got no mirror to > > rely on. > > > > BUT the Good thing is it advocates for database replication as this could > > make mirrors run again :) > > God, I never enough thought about that ... a read-only replication would > be *very* easy to setup ... > > Dave/Robert? Thoughts? > > -- Olivier PRENANT Tel: +33-5-61-50-97-00 (Work) Quartier d'Harraud Turrou +33-5-61-50-97-01 (Fax) 31190 AUTERIVE +33-6-07-63-80-64 (GSM) FRANCE Email: ohp@pyrenet.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make your life a dream, make your dream a reality. (St Exupery)
(Sorry, been _way_ behind on the email reading.) On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored due > to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering different > ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way. Would one of the ways be to use replication of the main databases? There's more than one project around, some of which have been in contrib/, and _any_ proof to the public that PostgreSQL can indeed be replicated would be helpful, I'd say. A -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@libertyrms.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x110
> -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Sullivan [mailto:andrew@libertyrms.info] > Sent: 03 July 2003 17:24 > To: pgsql-hackers list > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Mirro updates > > > (Sorry, been _way_ behind on the email reading.) > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > > Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being > mirrored due > > to it's dependency on a backend database. We are > considering different > > ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way. > > Would one of the ways be to use replication of the main databases? > There's more than one project around, some of which have been > in contrib/, and _any_ proof to the public that PostgreSQL > can indeed be replicated would be helpful, I'd say. Been there, covered that :-) In my opinion the difficulties of distributing schema updates and changes from the constantly evolving site would put far too much of a reliance on the mirror operators to handle updates we cannot replicate, not to mention the fact they'd need to install PostgreSQL on their server and give us access anyway - something I wouldn't be overly happy about doing for one. As it happens, much of the site is now mirrored anyway. All the static parts are now mirrored, and happily link back to the main site where they need to. I'm working on the docs at the moment (well, was yesterday - been busy today) and once they're done, all that remains is the survey and the news/events (which should be fairly straightforward as well). Regards, Dave.
Guys, > On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: > > Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored due > > to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering different > > ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way. Bricolage? i.e. generation of static HTML from a central site that "pushes out" to the mirrors. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
It's rumoured that Josh Berkus once said: > Guys, > >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:18:06PM +0100, Dave Page wrote: >> > Yes, this is expected. Currently the website is not being mirrored >> > due to it's dependency on a backend database. We are considering >> > different ways of overcoming this problem in a useful way. > > Bricolage? i.e. generation of static HTML from a central site that > "pushes out" to the mirrors. Well I'm looking at Bricolage for other reasons, but basically that's what we're doing on the main site, just with our own code. Regards, Dave