Thread: Conformance of PostgreSQL to ANSI/ISO Standard

Conformance of PostgreSQL to ANSI/ISO Standard

From
"J M Sykes"
Date:
I have been looking at

ftp://ftp.be.postgresql.org/postgresql/doc/7.2/reference-7.2-A4.pdf

and on page 70, CREATE TABLE, Compatibility, I find a statement that
suggests the writer was under a misapprehension.

You say first:

<quote>
The CREATE TABLE conforms to SQL92 Intermediate and to a subset of SQL99,
with exceptions listed below and in the descriptions above.

Temporary Tables
In addition to the local temporary table, SQL92 also defines a CREATE GLOBAL
TEMPORARY TABLE statement. Global temporary tables are also visible to other
sessions.
</quote>

Although your temporary tables seem to be effectively the same as IBM DB2's

DECLARE GLOBAL TEMPORARY TABLE

and Oracle's

CREATE GLOBAL TEMPORARY TABLE

However, none of these conform to SQL:1992 at any level (or to the temporary
tables feature of SQL:1999), so you're in good company, but apparently
mistaken.

I shall be happy to try to elucidate further if you're interested, as I have
been scrutinizing this area of the SQL standard recently.

FYI, though not a member of the ANSI committee, I do contribute to the ISO
working group.

Mike Sykes.



Re: Conformance of PostgreSQL to ANSI/ISO Standard

From
Mike Mascari
Date:
J M Sykes wrote:
> I have been looking at
> 
> ftp://ftp.be.postgresql.org/postgresql/doc/7.2/reference-7.2-A4.pdf
> 
> and on page 70, CREATE TABLE, Compatibility, I find a statement that
> suggests the writer was under a misapprehension.
> 
> You say first:
> 
> <quote>
> The CREATE TABLE conforms to SQL92 Intermediate and to a subset of SQL99,
> with exceptions listed below and in the descriptions above.

...

> However, none of these conform to SQL:1992 at any level (or to
> the temporary tables feature of SQL:1999), so you're in good
> company, but apparently mistaken.

Yeah. This was the subject of my confusion as well. Tom sorts it
out:


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=3E28A02C.5090900%40mascari.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DMike%2BMascari%2Btemp%2Bglobal%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den

> FYI, though not a member of the ANSI committee, I do contribute to the ISO
> working group.
> 
> Mike Sykes.

Mike Mascari



Re: Conformance of PostgreSQL to ANSI/ISO Standard

From
Mike Mascari
Date:
I wrote:

> J M Sykes wrote:
> 
>>I have been looking at
>>
>>ftp://ftp.be.postgresql.org/postgresql/doc/7.2/reference-7.2-A4.pdf
>>
>>and on page 70, CREATE TABLE, Compatibility, I find a statement that
>>suggests the writer was under a misapprehension.
>>
>>You say first:
>>
>><quote>
>>The CREATE TABLE conforms to SQL92 Intermediate and to a subset of SQL99,
>>with exceptions listed below and in the descriptions above.
> 
> ...
>
>>However, none of these conform to SQL:1992 at any level (or to
>>the temporary tables feature of SQL:1999), so you're in good
>>company, but apparently mistaken.
> 
> 
> Yeah. This was the subject of my confusion as well. Tom sorts it
> out:
> 
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=3E28A02C.5090900%40mascari.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DMike%2BMascari%2Btemp%2Bglobal%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den
> 
> 
>>FYI, though not a member of the ANSI committee, I do contribute to the ISO
>>working group.
>>
>>Mike Sykes.

I should also have written:

1. Obviously the PostgreSQL docs need to be updated as they are
still incorrect in the development version

2. Since you contribute to the ISO working group may I make a
suggestion? The standard for temporary tables includes the
options ON COMMIT { PRESERVE ROWS | DELETE ROWS }. 7.4 of
PostgreSQL, thanks to Gavin Sherry, will include DROP as one of
the ON COMMIT options. Any chance at that getting standardized?

Mike Mascari
mascarm@mascari.com