Thread: ATTN: Tom Lane

ATTN: Tom Lane

From
David Ford
Date:
... while talking to sss.pgh.pa.us.:

>>>>>> MAIL From:<david+cert@blue-labs.org>
>>>      
>>>
<<< 550 5.7.1 Probable spam from 68.9.71.221 refused - see http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php?68.9.71.221
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable

Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're probably blocking a lot of legitimate mail.

I don't feel like paying some Big Company just so I can relay mail through them when I can do my company's own mail on
myown networks.  Big Company will get blacklisted soon enough for [inadvertently] allowing a spammer to send mail
throughthem.
 

Please don't punish the victim until they're proven guilty.

David
p.s. There isn't any contact address on the above URL for the requested updates.





Re: ATTN: Tom Lane

From
Tom Lane
Date:
David Ford <david+cert@blue-labs.org> writes:
> Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're probably blocking a lot of legitimate mail.

David, let me explain this in words of one syllable: I am currently
rejecting upwards of 2000 spam messages per day.  If I did not have
extremely stringent filters in place, email would be completely
useless to me.

Advice suggesting that I weaken my filters will be ignored with as much
grace as I can muster, which on most days is not a lot.

This is what comes of having several well-publicized email addresses :-(
        regards, tom lane


Re: ATTN: Tom Lane

From
Hannu Krosing
Date:
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 02:10, David Ford wrote:
> ... while talking to sss.pgh.pa.us.:
> 
> >>>>>> MAIL From:<david+cert@blue-labs.org>
> >>>      
> >>>
> <<< 550 5.7.1 Probable spam from 68.9.71.221 refused - see http://www.five-ten-sg.com/blackhole.php?68.9.71.221
> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
> 
> Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're probably blocking a lot of legitimate mail.
> 
> I don't feel like paying some Big Company just so I can relay mail through them when I can do my company's own mail
onmy own networks.  Big Company will get blacklisted soon enough for [inadvertently] allowing a spammer to send mail
throughthem.
 
> 
> Please don't punish the victim until they're proven guilty.
> 
> David
> p.s. There isn't any contact address on the above URL for the requested updates.

You can manually decode an e-mail address from the first line on that
site :

You can always send email to blackhole3 at five-ten-sg.com even if your mail server is listed here. 

I got my home ADSL un-blacklisted after a few emails to them when they
agreed that my IP is actually static.

---------------
Hannu



Re: ATTN: Tom Lane

From
Thomas Swan
Date:
Tom Lane wrote:<br /><blockquote cite="mid2069.1024022650@sss.pgh.pa.us" type="cite"><pre wrap="">David Ford <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"href="mailto:david+cert@blue-labs.org"><david+cert@blue-labs.org></a> writes:
</pre><blockquotetype="cite"><pre wrap="">Tom, if you block everyone on cable, dialup, dsl, and adsl, then you're
probablyblocking a lot of legitimate mail.   </pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">
 
David, let me explain this in words of one syllable: I am currently
rejecting upwards of 2000 spam messages per day.  If I did not have
extremely stringent filters in place, email would be completely
useless to me.

Advice suggesting that I weaken my filters will be ignored with as much
grace as I can muster, which on most days is not a lot.

This is what comes of having several well-publicized email addresses :-(</pre></blockquote> I sympathize with your
pain.  However, I've found that the five-ten-sg.com list is ofter overly aggressive.  There are many other RBL's that
arenot as aggressive and used in combination provide very good results.   Also, you could even try SpamCop's RBL, if
yourso inclined.<br /><br /> I could not post from my work address to any of the lists strictly because of the
five-ten-sg.comRBL.  They blocked everything from BellSouth's IP allocation blocks.   They only way around it is to beg
themto allow you a static IP and the ask to have that IP unbanned from the RBL.   It's a lot of work.<br /><br /> RBL's
aregood, but I think the one that blocked David Ford and myself  is perhaps a little too strong.<br /><br /> Just my
twocents.<br /><br /> Thomas<br /><br />