Thread: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
CSN
Date:
Does anybody know what Redhat's enhancements to
PostgreSQL are? From their web pages, it appears to be
an installer and graphical interface (phppgadmin?).
Scott thinks they might optimize postgresql.conf and
other things too.

Redhat DB:
http://www.redhat.com/software/database

Tech info:
http://www.redhat.com/software/database/technical

CSN

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Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Guy Fraser
Date:
I agree it would be nice to know.

I mentioned this a while back. At the time RH was messing up things
unrelated to PG, when I mentioned that they keep there "enhancments" to
them selves rather that use them to better the whole community, I was
flamed by RH supporters. I have provided fixes and enhancements to
different software products over the years, and have supplied most bach
to the community. I don't want to get flamed so I'll just leave it there.

Guy

CSN wrote:

>Does anybody know what Redhat's enhancements to
>PostgreSQL are? From their web pages, it appears to be
>an installer and graphical interface (phppgadmin?).
>Scott thinks they might optimize postgresql.conf and
>other things too.
>
>Redhat DB:
>http://www.redhat.com/software/database
>
>Tech info:
>http://www.redhat.com/software/database/technical
>
>CSN
>
>


Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
The Hermit Hacker
Date:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Guy Fraser wrote:

> I agree it would be nice to know.
>
> I mentioned this a while back. At the time RH was messing up things
> unrelated to PG, when I mentioned that they keep there "enhancments" to
> them selves rather that use them to better the whole community, I was
> flamed by RH supporters. I have provided fixes and enhancements to
> different software products over the years, and have supplied most bach
> to the community. I don't want to get flamed so I'll just leave it there.

Figure the # of hours that Tom Lane works on PostgreSQL, and the # of
commits and changes he makes ... I think Redhat gives one *helluva* lot
back to the community, no?


Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Ron Johnson
Date:
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 17:35, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Guy Fraser wrote:
>
> > I agree it would be nice to know.
> >
> > I mentioned this a while back. At the time RH was messing up things
> > unrelated to PG, when I mentioned that they keep there "enhancments" to
> > them selves rather that use them to better the whole community, I was
> > flamed by RH supporters. I have provided fixes and enhancements to
> > different software products over the years, and have supplied most bach
> > to the community. I don't want to get flamed so I'll just leave it there.
>
> Figure the # of hours that Tom Lane works on PostgreSQL, and the # of
> commits and changes he makes ... I think Redhat gives one *helluva* lot
> back to the community, no?

So Tom works for RH?

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Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Doug McNaught
Date:
Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:

> On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 17:35, The Hermit Hacker wrote:

> > Figure the # of hours that Tom Lane works on PostgreSQL, and the # of
> > commits and changes he makes ... I think Redhat gives one *helluva* lot
> > back to the community, no?
>
> So Tom works for RH?

Yup; they hired him after Great Bridge folded.

-Doug

Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Ron Johnson
Date:
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:44, Doug McNaught wrote:
> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:
>
> > On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 17:35, The Hermit Hacker wrote:
>
> > > Figure the # of hours that Tom Lane works on PostgreSQL, and the # of
> > > commits and changes he makes ... I think Redhat gives one *helluva* lot
> > > back to the community, no?
> >
> > So Tom works for RH?
>
> Yup; they hired him after Great Bridge folded.

Ah, it's the lack of "@redhat.com" that throws us...

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Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:
> So Tom works for RH?

Want to see my red fedora?

            regards, tom lane

(If you've seen Michael Tiemann running around at conventions in a
bright red wool fedora, it turns out they issue those as standard
equipment to all new employees.  I think most of us are too embarrassed
to wear 'em in public though)

Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Tom Lane
Date:
> CSN wrote:
>> Does anybody know what Redhat's enhancements to
>> PostgreSQL are? From their web pages, it appears to be
>> an installer and graphical interface (phppgadmin?).

The RHDB version of PG 7.2.* included a number of moderately-significant
bug fixes back-ported from the community 7.3.* branch.  There weren't
any other changes to the database proper.  The package also has several
add-on tools, all written from scratch by Red Hat (if you can't tell the
differences from phppgadmin, you haven't actually looked closely).
Whether you consider the add-on tools to be useful enhancements is yours
to decide.  Please note though that the add-ons are all released under
GPL license --- you cannot accuse RH of keeping anything to themselves.

The RHDB version of 7.3.* is presently quite in sync with the community
release, mainly because I have been spending Red-Hat-paid-for time
keeping the community 7.3 branch up-to-date with important patches, and
so there's not much that cries out to be back-ported that you won't find
in the community 7.3.3 release.  Their add-on tools are in beta for a
7.3-compatible release, see http://sources.redhat.com/rhdb/

I should note also that I'm not the only member of Red Hat's PG
development project, just the one with the most visibility on these
mailing lists.

            regards, tom lane
            Red Hat Database project

Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Tom Lane
Date:
Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:
> Ah, it's the lack of "@redhat.com" that throws us...

tgl at youknowwhere works, but I don't advertise it because I can't
filter spam very effectively at that address.  tgl@sss is my home
address, and as some of you know, it's got filters with teeth.  Try
the other if you get a rude response from my preferred address...
or just send to the PG lists.

            regards, tom lane

Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Tony Grant
Date:
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 07:00, Tom Lane wrote:

> tgl at youknowwhere works, but I don't advertise it because I can't
> filter spam very effectively at that address.  tgl@sss is my home
> address, and as some of you know, it's got filters with teeth.

Them thar ain't teeth matey! Them thar bein' fangs!!!

Thanks for the address that won't bounce rackspace IP blocks for
breakfast. I just signed for another year.

Cheers
Tony Grant
--
www.tgds.net Library management software toolkit,
redhat linux on Sony Vaio C1XD,
Dreamweaver MX with Tomcat and PostgreSQL


Re: Redhat's "enhancements" to PG

From
Markus Bertheau
Date:
В Сбт, 28.06.2003, в 06:36, Tom Lane пишет:
>             regards, tom lane
>             Red Hat Database project

Heh, it's now "PostgreSQL - Red Hat Edition Project" :)

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