Thread: Can we get a PostgreSQL speaker into this?

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:
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> On 06/08/2016 06:04 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> http://database.camp/
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>> They don't seem to have picked all their speakers.  Seems like someone
>> from PostgreSQL needs to be there.
>>
>
> I know the organizer of this. He runs the non-profit that PgConf.US donated to. It would be great if some staff from EDB or OmniTI could do it. I can't get out there in July.

What kind of talks are they looking for?  I don’t believe I am traveling on 7/10 and may be around to speak.

Jonathan

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I am checking to see if we can send somebody

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Joshua D. Drake <jd@commandprompt.com> wrote:
>
> On 06/08/2016 06:04 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> http://database.camp/
>>
>> They don't seem to have picked all their speakers.  Seems like someone
>> from PostgreSQL needs to be there.
>>
>
> I know the organizer of this. He runs the non-profit that PgConf.US donated to. It would be great if some staff from EDB or OmniTI could do it. I can't get out there in July.

What kind of talks are they looking for?  I don’t believe I am traveling on 7/10 and may be around to speak.

Jonathan

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On 06/10/2016 12:50 PM, Marc Linster wrote:
> Ed will be speaking at the Database Camp.

Awesome.  Hope it goes well.

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On 06/13/2016 08:59 AM, julyanto SUTANDANG wrote:
> It is really great!
> That would be a world class summit for Enterprise Level Database Softwares.
> I would like to say thanks to all of you in here and there (in the
> event) for your contribution and support to
> make PostgreSQL happened as the great solution for everyone in the world
> and creates opportunity for
> us to fight capitalism, monopoly and vendor lock-in. Especially in Asian
> Countries!

I'm pretty sure you didn't mean "to fight capitalism", given where you work.

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Dear Josh, 

Thanks for correction, yes i don't really mean "capitalism as whole". All of us here agree that propietary softwares has done such great business more than expected, and creating new "monopoly" which is really hard to compete without Open Source. 

Open Source creates opportunity to all of us to have alternative solutions. 

This is what i refer to "fight capitalism" 

Thanks, 

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:

On 06/13/2016 08:59 AM, julyanto SUTANDANG wrote:
> It is really great!
> That would be a world class summit for Enterprise Level Database Softwares.
> I would like to say thanks to all of you in here and there (in the
> event) for your contribution and support to
> make PostgreSQL happened as the great solution for everyone in the world
> and creates opportunity for
> us to fight capitalism, monopoly and vendor lock-in. Especially in Asian
> Countries!

I'm pretty sure you didn't mean "to fight capitalism", given where you work.

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Not to dive too far out into the weeds, but technically, it is mercantilism you are fighting.  Mercantilism is often confused with capitalism, but technically they are arch-enemies.  Capitalism was developed as a refutation of mercantilism.  In Britain, the crown was giving state-sanctioned monopolies on various kinds of businesses.  This was mercantilism.  Adam Smith showed that freedom brought social wealth, and that state-sanctioned monopolies and oligopolies squelched it.  Many people conflate mercantilism and capitalism because they both deal with "business".  However, business entities usually favor mercantilism, not capitalism, because under mercantilism they can make money simply because the state says so.  In the modern era, it is usually not a direct monopoly that is granted, but rather influence (whether setting standards, winning large government contracts, etc.), and even, to some extent, patents and copyrights (though there is some debate on whether the latter is a form of intrinsic property right or a government-granted monopoly).

Jon

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:40 PM, julyanto SUTANDANG <julyanto@equnix.co.id> wrote:

Dear Josh, 

Thanks for correction, yes i don't really mean "capitalism as whole". All of us here agree that propietary softwares has done such great business more than expected, and creating new "monopoly" which is really hard to compete without Open Source. 

Open Source creates opportunity to all of us to have alternative solutions. 

This is what i refer to "fight capitalism" 

Thanks, 

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:

On 06/13/2016 08:59 AM, julyanto SUTANDANG wrote:
> It is really great!
> That would be a world class summit for Enterprise Level Database Softwares.
> I would like to say thanks to all of you in here and there (in the
> event) for your contribution and support to
> make PostgreSQL happened as the great solution for everyone in the world
> and creates opportunity for
> us to fight capitalism, monopoly and vendor lock-in. Especially in Asian
> Countries!

I'm pretty sure you didn't mean "to fight capitalism", given where you work.

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Josh Berkus
Red Hat OSAS
(any opinions are my own)

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Julyanto SUTANDANG

Equnix Business Solutions, PT
(An Open Source an Open Mind Company)

Pusat Niaga ITC Roxy Mas Blok C2/42.  Jl. KH Hasyim Ashari 125, Jakarta Pusat
T: +6221 22866662 F: +62216315281 M: +628164858028


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