Thread: Re: PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fal l 2007)

Re: PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fal l 2007)

From
"Dave Page"
Date:

> ------- Original Message -------
> From: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
> To: Dave Page <dpage@postgresql.org>
> Sent: 30/08/07, 16:18:31
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007)
>
> No. This conference is being organized currently by three community
> members (although is one of the PDXPUG leaders). This conference was
> discussed by the community at OSCON.

A handfull of people at OSCON does not the community make.

> I appreciate that some maybe feel left out, but the notice was short and
> we wanted to get moving. It is not moving and it is a wondeful thing.
> Let's be happy that PostgreSQL is having another conference.

I am. What I object to is declaring this as a postgresql.org conference when it hasn't been generally agreed in an
appropriatecommunity forum (which would be -advocacy imho). Doing so effectively allows *anyone* to organise an event
andcall it 'official' - which I believe is definitely not something we want for a whole heap of reasons. 

Regards, Dave

Re: PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fal l 2007)

From
"Selena Deckelmann"
Date:
On 8/30/07, Dave Page <dpage@postgresql.org> wrote:

> I am. What I object to is declaring this as a postgresql.org conference when it hasn't been generally agreed in an
appropriatecommunity forum (which would be -advocacy imho). Doing so effectively allows *anyone* to organise an event
andcall it 'official' - which I believe is definitely not something we want for a whole heap of reasons. 
>

I would like for this to be an 'official' event.

How do we go about getting 'official' approval?

Thanks!
-selena

--
Selena Deckelmann
PDXPUG - Portland PostgreSQL Users Group
http://pugs.postgresql.org/pdx
http://www.postgresqlconference.org

Re: PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fal l 2007)

From
"Joshua D. Drake"
Date:
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Dave Page wrote:
>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> From: "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com>
>> To: Dave Page <dpage@postgresql.org>
>> Sent: 30/08/07, 16:18:31
>> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] PostgreSQL.Org (was: PostgreSQL Conference Fall 2007)
>>
>> No. This conference is being organized currently by three community
>> members (although is one of the PDXPUG leaders). This conference was
>> discussed by the community at OSCON.
>
> A handfull of people at OSCON does not the community make.

Dave, I am not going to get into this with you. The ball is in motion.
The other conferences are already being planned and have been announced.

I will concur that it would have been more beneficial "if" we would have
posted about the fall conference before we announced but our time limit
was short and everyone is pushing really hard to make this a success for
the community.

>
>> I appreciate that some maybe feel left out, but the notice was short and
>> we wanted to get moving. It is not moving and it is a wondeful thing.
>> Let's be happy that PostgreSQL is having another conference.
>
> I am. What I object to is declaring this as a postgresql.org conference when it hasn't been generally agreed in an
appropriatecommunity forum (which would be -advocacy imho). Doing so effectively allows *anyone* to organise an event
andcall it 'official' - which I believe is definitely not something we want for a whole heap of reasons. 

Nor was it generally agreed that we would have PgCon or PGDay.IT or
whatever the Japanese or French community does.

Like most things in this community, what happens is, "The people willing
to do the work..."

In an effort to make sure there is no confusion in the future, I have
already posted about the upcoming conferences that I am planning with
the community over the next 12 months. Please feel free to participate
in those threads as your feedback would be valuable.

Not to mention, I would love to see a UK conference.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

>
> Regards, Dave
>
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