Thread: Changing mailling list server
(This is a repost of a mail from Martín Marqués a couple of days ago -- did anyone see it in -advocacy?) Dear Advocacy members (and Marc ;-)): We, at the Spanish PostgreSQL mailling list hosted at pgsql-ayuda@tlali.iztacala.unam.mx are having some problems due to lack of administration in the list, and at the moment are debating about what (or where) to do with the list. One of the solutions that came upon was to migrate (pass) the mailling list to postgresql.org (pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org) and so I would like to know which is the policy about this, and if there is a chance of hosting the list at pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org (maybe it should be called pgsql-es-ayuda or just pgsql-es, to follow the convention?) Please note that we would take care of whatever administrative tasks are required. Waiting for your answer, -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "Para tener más hay que desear menos"
The answer I had sent back a little while back was that this was definitely doable ... once a decision was made, just let me konw and I can get it setup ... I also need to know who would be listed as the list owner, for moderation purposes, as I can't read Spanish *yet* (next years project) On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > (This is a repost of a mail from Martín Marqués a couple of days ago -- > did anyone see it in -advocacy?) > > Dear Advocacy members (and Marc ;-)): > > We, at the Spanish PostgreSQL mailling list hosted at > pgsql-ayuda@tlali.iztacala.unam.mx are having some problems due to lack > of administration in the list, and at the moment are debating about what > (or where) to do with the list. > > One of the solutions that came upon was to migrate (pass) the mailling > list to postgresql.org (pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org) and so I would like > to know which is the policy about this, and if there is a chance of > hosting the list at pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org (maybe it should be > called pgsql-es-ayuda or just pgsql-es, to follow the convention?) > > Please note that we would take care of whatever administrative tasks are > required. > > Waiting for your answer, > > -- > Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) > "Para tener más hay que desear menos" > ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:48:11PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > The answer I had sent back a little while back was that this was > definitely doable ... once a decision was made, just let me konw and I can > get it setup ... I also need to know who would be listed as the list > owner, for moderation purposes, as I can't read Spanish *yet* (next years > project) Cool, please list me and Martin as owners: Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@dcc.uchile.cl> Is there some way we could automatically import the archives from the old list? Has the list owner a mechanism to insert a whole mbox? Thanks a lot, > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > We, at the Spanish PostgreSQL mailling list hosted at > > pgsql-ayuda@tlali.iztacala.unam.mx are having some problems due to lack > > of administration in the list, and at the moment are debating about what > > (or where) to do with the list. -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) Tulio: oh, para qué servirá este boton, Juan Carlos? Policarpo: No, aléjense, no toquen la consola! Juan Carlos: Lo apretaré una y otra vez.
Nos tiro la pelota. Ahora nos toca jugar a nosotros. Que hacemos? El Mié 24 Mar 2004 21:48, Marc G. Fournier escribió: > The answer I had sent back a little while back was that this was > definitely doable ... once a decision was made, just let me konw and I can > get it setup ... I also need to know who would be listed as the list > owner, for moderation purposes, as I can't read Spanish *yet* (next years > project) > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > (This is a repost of a mail from Martín Marqués a couple of days ago -- > > did anyone see it in -advocacy?) > > > > Dear Advocacy members (and Marc ;-)): > > > > We, at the Spanish PostgreSQL mailling list hosted at > > pgsql-ayuda@tlali.iztacala.unam.mx are having some problems due to lack > > of administration in the list, and at the moment are debating about what > > (or where) to do with the list. > > > > One of the solutions that came upon was to migrate (pass) the mailling > > list to postgresql.org (pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org) and so I would like > > to know which is the policy about this, and if there is a chance of > > hosting the list at pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org (maybe it should be > > called pgsql-es-ayuda or just pgsql-es, to follow the convention?) > > > > Please note that we would take care of whatever administrative tasks are > > required. > > > > Waiting for your answer, > > > > -- > > Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) > > "Para tener más hay que desear menos" > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) > Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) -- 08:27:01 up 16 days, 12:58, 2 users, load average: 0.34, 0.69, 0.64 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Martín Marqués | select 'mmarques' || '@' || 'unl.edu.ar' Centro de Telematica | DBA, Programador, Administrador Universidad Nacional del Litoral -----------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry for the spanish messages. They were not intended to go to this list. El Jue 25 Mar 2004 08:27, escribió: > Nos tiro la pelota. Ahora nos toca jugar a nosotros. > Que hacemos? > > El Mié 24 Mar 2004 21:48, Marc G. Fournier escribió: > > The answer I had sent back a little while back was that this was > > definitely doable ... once a decision was made, just let me konw and I > > can get it setup ... I also need to know who would be listed as the list > > owner, for moderation purposes, as I can't read Spanish *yet* (next years > > project) > > > > On Wed, 24 Mar 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > (This is a repost of a mail from Martín Marqués a couple of days ago -- > > > did anyone see it in -advocacy?) > > > > > > Dear Advocacy members (and Marc ;-)): > > > > > > We, at the Spanish PostgreSQL mailling list hosted at > > > pgsql-ayuda@tlali.iztacala.unam.mx are having some problems due to lack > > > of administration in the list, and at the moment are debating about > > > what (or where) to do with the list. > > > > > > One of the solutions that came upon was to migrate (pass) the mailling > > > list to postgresql.org (pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org) and so I would like > > > to know which is the policy about this, and if there is a chance of > > > hosting the list at pgsql-ayuda@postgresql.org (maybe it should be > > > called pgsql-es-ayuda or just pgsql-es, to follow the convention?) > > > > > > Please note that we would take care of whatever administrative tasks > > > are required. > > > > > > Waiting for your answer, > > > > > > -- > > > Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) > > > "Para tener más hay que desear menos" > > > > ---- > > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services > > (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy > > ICQ: 7615664 > > > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > > TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command > > (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to majordomo@postgresql.org) -- 09:40:01 up 16 days, 14:11, 2 users, load average: 1.34, 0.87, 0.61 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Martín Marqués | select 'mmarques' || '@' || 'unl.edu.ar' Centro de Telematica | DBA, Programador, Administrador Universidad Nacional del Litoral -----------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:58:08PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 08:48:11PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > > The answer I had sent back a little while back was that this was > > definitely doable ... once a decision was made, just let me konw and I can > > get it setup ... I also need to know who would be listed as the list > > owner, for moderation purposes, as I can't read Spanish *yet* (next years > > project) > > Cool, please list me and Martin as owners: Marc, just to followup, please create a list named "pgsql-es-ayuda" with these three owners: Martin Marques <martin@bugs.unl.edu.ar> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@dcc.uchile.cl> Manuel Sugawara <masm@fciencias.unam.mx> Thanks, -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "Limítate a mirar... y algun día veras"
Marc, I've sent this mail to you three or four times already. Maybe it's getting blocked by some spam killer. I wrote, regarding the list pgsql-es-ayuda: > > Cool, the list is up and running now. There's one more thing: we have > > the archives for the old list, but I don't know how to import it to keep > > it visible from archives.postgresql.org. Maybe majordomo just doesn't > > provide the facilities to do that. Is there a way to do it manually? > > if you can get the mbox files for the archives, assuming that the old > system stored it that way, I can copy them to the right location ... Sure. It's in http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz > > Oh, now that the list is working, can you please add it to the list in > > archives? And who should I ask to add it to lists.html in the main > > site? archives.postgresql.org is not right about this list. In fact it doesn't work, and I can't get to the archives. (It only shows the list on the first search dropdown, but even that doesn't work). Thanks, -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "Las cosas son buenas o malas segun las hace nuestra opinión" (Lisias)
On 26 Apr 2004 at 17:57, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > archives.postgresql.org is not right about this list. In fact it > doesn't work, and I can't get to the archives. (It only shows the > list on the first search dropdown, but even that doesn't work). Alvaro: I have had great success with gmane.org and various lists. Your post is already there: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.db.postgresql.advocacy -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - http://www.bsdcan.org/
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > if you can get the mbox files for the archives, assuming that the old > > system stored it that way, I can copy them to the right location ... > > Sure. It's in http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz svr1# fetch http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz fetch: http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz: Not Found > > > Oh, now that the list is working, can you please add it to the list in > > > archives? And who should I ask to add it to lists.html in the main > > > site? > > archives.postgresql.org is not right about this list. In fact it > doesn't work, and I can't get to the archives. (It only shows the list > on the first search dropdown, but even that doesn't work). Should be fixed now ... can you send me a spanish translation of: http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-es-ayuda/top ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:23:40PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > if you can get the mbox files for the archives, assuming that the old > > > system stored it that way, I can copy them to the right location ... > > > > Sure. It's in http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz > > svr1# fetch http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz > fetch: http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz: Not Found Dammit :-( It's http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-ayuda.mbox.gz > > > > Oh, now that the list is working, can you please add it to the list in > > > > archives? And who should I ask to add it to lists.html in the main > > > > site? > > > > archives.postgresql.org is not right about this list. In fact it > > doesn't work, and I can't get to the archives. (It only shows the list > > on the first search dropdown, but even that doesn't work). > > Should be fixed now ... Cool! > can you send me a spanish translation of: > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-es-ayuda/top Attached. Thank you! -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "A wizard is never late, Frodo Baggins, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to." (Gandalf, en LoTR FoTR)
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On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 07:06:49PM -0400, Dan Langille wrote: > On 26 Apr 2004 at 17:57, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > archives.postgresql.org is not right about this list. In fact it > > doesn't work, and I can't get to the archives. (It only shows the > > list on the first search dropdown, but even that doesn't work). > > Alvaro: > > I have had great success with gmane.org and various lists. Your post > is already there: Sorry, I was talking about pgsql-es-ayuda, a spanish list which was not on archives (nor anywhere else). It's up now thanks to Marc, you can see it under "Regional Lists" at the left. BTW, I note that the spanish list has a lot more traffic than the german and french one. Maybe it's because Postgres is heavily used on Latin America, but maybe it's just because not a lot of people speak english, compared to european types. (Maybe this is related to the fact that there are spanish and brazilian portuguese versions of General Bits but no other language.) -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "¿Cómo puedes confiar en algo que pagas y que no ves, y no confiar en algo que te dan y te lo muestran?" (Germán Poo)
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:23:40PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > > > if you can get the mbox files for the archives, assuming that the old > > > > system stored it that way, I can copy them to the right location ... > > > > > > Sure. It's in http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz > > > > svr1# fetch http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz > > fetch: http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz: Not Found > > Dammit :-( It's > http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-ayuda.mbox.gz How big is it? :) svr1# fetch http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-ayuda.mbox.gz fetch: http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-ayuda.mbox.gz: Operation timed out > Attached. Plugging it in now ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 04:54:41PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 08:23:40PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > > > > > > if you can get the mbox files for the archives, assuming that the old > > > > > system stored it that way, I can copy them to the right location ... > > > > > > > > Sure. It's in http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz > > > > > > svr1# fetch http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz > > > fetch: http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-es-ayuda.mbox.gz: Not Found > > > > Dammit :-( It's > > http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-ayuda.mbox.gz > > How big is it? :) 5 MB (compressed) ... it shouldn't be _that_ bad. I don't have a better connection though. > svr1# fetch http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-ayuda.mbox.gz > fetch: http://alvherre.atentus.cl/pgsql-ayuda.mbox.gz: Operation timed out > > > Attached. > > Plugging it in now ... Cool! -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "La vida es para el que se aventura"
On Mon, 3 May 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > 5 MB (compressed) ... it shouldn't be _that_ bad. I don't have a better > connection though. Want to try and email it to me? ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 08:00:25PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Mon, 3 May 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > > > 5 MB (compressed) ... it shouldn't be _that_ bad. I don't have a better > > connection though. > > Want to try and email it to me? Ok, it should have arrived already. -- Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl>) "You knock on that door or the sun will be shining on places inside you that the sun doesn't usually shine" (en Death: "The High Cost of Living")