Thread: Press release ready?
Folks, I'm still working on a quote. Aside from the lack of a quote, are we all OK on the press release? I'd like to get it to the translators by tuesday, if possible. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Josh Berkus wrote: > Folks, > > I'm still working on a quote. Aside from the lack of a quote, are we all > = OK=20 > on the press release? I'd like to get it to the translators by tuesday, > if= =20 > possible. > > --=20 > -Josh Berkus Here's my list of unresolved issues: * "The best has gotten even better" -- does the wording on this need to be changed? Should it be dropped? * Complete list of changes -- says to look at the history file, points to a readme file, the url doesn't exist.... This whole paragraph needs to be reworked. Have we settled on a url for this? ( I thought it was going to be something like http://www.advocacy.postgresql.org/changes/73/ ) * List of companies in about us -- Are we comfortable with the list of companies that were pulled from news articles? Should we add in a government agency? IIRC The FREDII website (http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/) runs on PostgreSQL. Robert Treat
Robert, > * "The best has gotten even better" -- does the wording on this need to be > changed? Should it be dropped? I'm ambivalent; I don't think it does any harm, but am not that thrilled with it either. > * Complete list of changes -- says to look at the history file, points to a > readme file, the url doesn't exist.... This whole paragraph needs to be > reworked. Have we settled on a url for this? ( I thought it was going to > be something like http://www.advocacy.postgresql.org/changes/73/ ) Did someone volunteer to put this page up? Anyone? Beuller? > * List of companies in about us -- Are we comfortable with the list of > companies that were pulled from news articles? Should we add in a government > agency? IIRC The FREDII website (http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/) runs > on PostgreSQL. The supplied list is somewhat off-the-cuff. I volunteer you to put together a better list. :-) -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
Guys, Final release may be as soon as wednesday. I move that we freeze all changes to the press release tommorrow AM, and go with it. -- -Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco
On Sunday 24 November 2002 07:20 pm, Josh Berkus wrote: > Guys, > > Final release may be as soon as Wednesday. I move that we freeze all > changes to the press release tommorrow AM, and go with it. I don't have any big problems with this, except the all changes link must be dealt with, after all the paragraph is talking about ftp mirrors and giving an http link... thoughts on before mentioned items below... On Sunday 24 November 2002 05:12 pm, Josh Berkus wrote: > Robert, > > > * "The best has gotten even better" -- does the wording on this need to > > be changed? Should it be dropped? > > I'm ambivalent; I don't think it does any harm, but am not that thrilled > with it either. > it stays then. > > * Complete list of changes -- says to look at the history file, points to > > a readme file, the url doesn't exist.... This whole paragraph needs to > > be reworked. Have we settled on a url for this? ( I thought it was > > going to be something like http://www.advocacy.postgresql.org/changes/73/ > > ) > > Did someone volunteer to put this page up? Anyone? Beuller? I don't think we ever settled on what the link would be. I'll see if I can do it as the above tonight and post an update. > > > * List of companies in about us -- Are we comfortable with the list of > > companies that were pulled from news articles? Should we add in a > > government agency? IIRC The FREDII website > > (http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/) runs on PostgreSQL. > > The supplied list is somewhat off-the-cuff. I volunteer you to put > together a better list. :-) Doh.... well, given the late hour, I say we go with this, but we need to vigilant about putting together a better list. The about us section should really be included in all press releases from the development group, so we need to keep this in focus. Robert Treat
Josh Berkus wrote: <snip> > > * Complete list of changes -- says to look at the history file, points to a > > readme file, the url doesn't exist.... This whole paragraph needs to be > > reworked. Have we settled on a url for this? ( I thought it was going to > > be something like http://www.advocacy.postgresql.org/changes/73/ ) > > Did someone volunteer to put this page up? Anyone? Beuller? Don't think anyone volunteered. People are probably expecting me to do it, but really, anyone that's part of the "webgroup" on the server should have the correct access rights to. Robert, Josh, Ewald, Bruce, and others... :-) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift <snip> > -- > -Josh Berkus > Aglio Database Solutions > San Francisco -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Josh Berkus: > Of them all, I really like Joe's the best ... it encapsulates the most > stuff, and would be about prefect if we cut the last line. If we want > to use it, who should we attribute it to? Volunteers? I don't see how we can attribute this to anyone but Joe. Doing otherwise would be disingenuous at best. > "The best has gotten even better" -- does the wording on this need to > be changed? Should it be dropped? I am in favor of it being dropped completely: The PostgreSQL Global Development Group is proud to announce the release of version 7.3 of the the PostgreSQL object-relational database management system (ORDBMS). PostgreSQL, the world's most advanced open source database, provides solutions for many of the most demanding applications in use today, saving businesses and governments millions of dollars each year. > Final release may be as soon as wednesday. I move that we freeze > all changes to the press release tommorrow AM, and go with it. I disagree for two reasons: 1) I was out of town this weekend, and not able to reply until this morning. :) 2) This is a press release and not a program - I think last minute changes should always be acceptable: if there is a need to change something, let's do it. We only get one shot at this. I also think we should just leave out the mention of bugs entirely. No reason to point them out: it is implied that a nerw version fixes bugs in the old one. Jason Hihn: > [Who is a non-developer? This is something that has always confused me. As > an application writer I see my self as a developer, but I'm not involved > with PostgreSQL development. Admins are another set too. ] I meant those non-technical people who might not know what a makefile is, but are responsible for the decision to use Postgres, e.g. managers. Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200211250932 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: http://www.turnstep.com/pgp.html iD8DBQE94jScvJuQZxSWSsgRAlb7AJ4hwrhu/VJ+vRZ0QRrLN7aG2baplwCg4vfZ p9b3SB3S9rtSR9u8UD/VXK0= =e0Ec -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Greg, > I don't see how we can attribute this to anyone but Joe. Doing > otherwise would be disingenuous at best. That's not an option. Joe does not want his name going to the press. Also, false attribution of quotes is a common practice in press releases; in fact, Tom initially asked me to just make something up and attribute it to him. My creativity failed, which was why I got a specific quote from him. Neil has agreed to own this quote if Peter E. is unreachable or doesn't want to. > > > "The best has gotten even better" -- does the wording on this need > to > > be changed? Should it be dropped? > > I am in favor of it being dropped completely: OK, fine with me. We've had a number of objections to this; it will be cut. > > > Final release may be as soon as wednesday. I move that we freeze > > all changes to the press release tommorrow AM, and go with it. > > I disagree for two reasons: 1) I was out of town this weekend, and > not able to reply until this morning. :) 2) This is a press > release and not a program - I think last minute changes should > always be acceptable: if there is a need to change something, > let's do it. We only get one shot at this. You're forgetting that this needs to be translated into several languages. The translators need a final version to work with -- at least a day before the release. Further, we'll need to prep it for e-mail out. So we need as much time as possible. Actually, a press release is a *lot* like a program in the need for "feature freeze" and coordinated timing. Justin, as the Advocacy Admin, I'm asking you to declare an end to tinkering as soon as the current changes are in and we have quote attribution. We really cannot afford to have the release go out a week after the 7.3. -Josh Berkus
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Josh Berkus wrote: > Justin, as the Advocacy Admin, I'm asking you to declare an end to > tinkering as soon as the current changes are in and we have quote > attribution. We really cannot afford to have the release go out a week > after the 7.3. If it comes to it, I will hold off the release for the press release ... as long as it isn't too long a stretch :)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > You're forgetting that this needs to be translated into several > languages. The translators need a final version to work with -- at > least a day before the release. Further, we'll need to prep it for > e-mail out. So we need as much time as possible. Good point. Did anyone ever get that page made for the link in the page? Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200211251334 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: http://www.turnstep.com/pgp.html iD8DBQE94m3XvJuQZxSWSsgRAlEUAJ9Aa3IhECaawht4wtafOTtqZb50XQCgg20A 6cqva6ruYIQSuxmZJszeINM= =/0on -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
This page? http://advocacy.postgresql.org/changes/73/ it probably should be spruced up a bit... Robert Treat On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 13:26, greg@turnstep.com wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > You're forgetting that this needs to be translated into several > > languages. The translators need a final version to work with -- at > > least a day before the release. Further, we'll need to prep it for > > e-mail out. So we need as much time as possible. > > Good point. Did anyone ever get that page made for the link > in the page? > > Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com
Josh Berkus wrote: <snip> > You're forgetting that this needs to be translated into several > languages. The translators need a final version to work with -- at > least a day before the release. Further, we'll need to prep it for > e-mail out. So we need as much time as possible. > > Actually, a press release is a *lot* like a program in the need for > "feature freeze" and coordinated timing. Josh is 100% correct here. The central co-ordination language we use is English, and that version of the Press Release needs to be in a finalised and read-only state so the translators have something to work from. Having it change mid-translation or after-translation can get messy fast. > Justin, as the Advocacy Admin, I'm asking you to declare an end to > tinkering as soon as the current changes are in and we have quote > attribution. We really cannot afford to have the release go out a > week after the 7.3. It's possible to "freeze" a page in the PostgreSQL Guides section from edits/comments/etc, easily. It's a simple permissions checkbox that is changed for that page through the web-based Zope Management Interface. We should probably create accounts for a few recognised Advocacy members on the Zope side of things, so that admin related changes like this can be done with a minimum of delay. Very small learning curve involved. :) Regards and best wishes, Justin Clift > -Josh Berkus > > ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- > TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > > http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html -- "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was less competition there." - Indira Gandhi