Re: Why we lost Uber as a user - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Hannu Krosing
Subject Re: Why we lost Uber as a user
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Msg-id 9dfc4e1f-05dd-8067-5306-3a1273b31590@2ndQuadrant.com
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In response to Re: Why we lost Uber as a user  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Why we lost Uber as a user  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
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On 07/27/2016 12:07 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>
>> 4. Now, update that small table 500 times per second.
>> That's a recipe for runaway table bloat; VACUUM can't do much because
>> there's always some minutes-old transaction hanging around (and SNAPSHOT
>> TOO OLD doesn't really help, we're talking about minutes here), and
>> because of all of the indexes HOT isn't effective.
> Hm, I'm not following why this is a disaster.  OK, you have circa 100%
> turnover of the table in the lifespan of the slower transactions, but I'd
> still expect vacuuming to be able to hold the bloat to some small integer
> multiple of the minimum possible table size.  (And if the table is small,
> that's still small.)  I suppose really long transactions (pg_dump?) could
> be pretty disastrous, but there are ways around that, like doing pg_dump
> on a slave.
Is there any theoretical obstacle which would make it impossible to
teach VACUUM not to hold back the whole vacuum horizon, but just
to leave a single transaction alone in case of a long-running
REPEATABLE READ transaction ?

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Hannu Krosing
PostgreSQL Consultant
Performance, Scalability and High Availability
2ndQuadrant Nordic Ltd




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