What are nested transactions then? was Nested transaction workaround? - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Chris Travers
Subject What are nested transactions then? was Nested transaction workaround?
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Msg-id 022e01c3da8b$c2d58bb0$dd44053d@winxp
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In response to Nested transaction workaround?  ("John Sidney-Woollett" <johnsw@wardbrook.com>)
Responses Re: What are nested transactions then? was Nested transaction workaround?  (Richard Huxton <dev@archonet.com>)
Re: What are nested transactions then? was Nested transaction workaround?  (Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog@svana.org>)
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From: "Martijn van Oosterhout" <kleptog@svana.org>
> Well, actually, the problem appears to be that people want to be able to
> roll back each individual statement without killing the parent
transaction,
> and they want to make this the default behaviour. This takes it out of the
> "never used" category to "everybody does it" category.

Ok.  Now I am confused.  I thought that a nested transaction would involve
two features:
1:  The ability to incrimentally commit/rollback changes, i.e. at certain
points in the transaction have a sub-commit.
2:  The ability to have a transaction within another transaction with
transactional visibility rules applying within the transaction tree.

What exactly do you mean by roll back individual statements?  What exactly
would be the default behavior?

> There is
> a bit of discussion on how to actually store that info in a way that can
be
> checked efficiently because remember, visibility needs to be checked for
> every tuple on every sequential scan in every process that runs
subsequently,
> so it needs to be *fast*.

Then you might have to have an array of "related transactions" which are
also visible for each thransaction, sort of like a tree with bidirectional
links.  Unfortunately I can imagine this being a source of subtle, hard to
troubleshoot bugs.  Something like
_x_id, _x_status, related_x_id[], child_x_id[], so that a rollback can
rollback all child_x_id's without touching the other transactions which are
parents, cousins, etc. but visible.

Best Wishes,
Chris Travers


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