Thread: Re: Docs for pg_basebackup needs v17 note for incremental backup

Re: Docs for pg_basebackup needs v17 note for incremental backup

From
"David G. Johnston"
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Is there seriously not a single person in the past three weeks who has seen this and not had the minute to spare to say "yes, this should be documented"?

David J.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 8:13 PM David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
Hackers,

Should the following paragraph in the docs be modified to point out minimum server version of v17 for incremental backups?

pg_basebackup works with servers of the same or an older major version, down to 9.1. However, WAL streaming mode (-X stream) only works with server version 9.3 and later, and tar format (--format=tar) only works with server version 9.5 and later.


David J.

Re: Docs for pg_basebackup needs v17 note for incremental backup

From
Andrew Dunstan
Date:


On 2025-02-05 We 7:59 PM, David G. Johnston wrote:
Is there seriously not a single person in the past three weeks who has seen this and not had the minute to spare to say "yes, this should be documented"?

David J.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 8:13 PM David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
Hackers,

Should the following paragraph in the docs be modified to point out minimum server version of v17 for incremental backups?

pg_basebackup works with servers of the same or an older major version, down to 9.1. However, WAL streaming mode (-X stream) only works with server version 9.3 and later, and tar format (--format=tar) only works with server version 9.5 and later.


David J.



(Please don't top-post, even on yourself)


People get busy. For example, many prominent hackers spent most of the last week at various conferences. There are also other things happening less publicly that are claiming people's time.


FWIW, I think that this should probably be documented.


cheers


andrew

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Andrew Dunstan
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Re: Docs for pg_basebackup needs v17 note for incremental backup

From
"David G. Johnston"
Date:
On Thursday, February 6, 2025, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:

On 2025-02-05 We 7:59 PM, David G. Johnston wrote


People get busy. For example, many prominent hackers spent most of the last week at various conferences. There are also other things happening less publicly that are claiming people's time.


Those prominent hackers are getting the benefit of me being one of the more prolific community question takers which lets them spend more time hacking.   While I’m not entitled to anything I suggest you all consider that a failure to acknowledge my patch requests is frustrating enough for me that I’m about to just give up and walk away, leaving you all to deal with those user questions more frequently.  The vast majority of emails get responses in some form with a day or so and lots of patches have gone in outside the commitfest process within days of initial reporting while I play by the rules and am a large contributor to the community but presently have 7 patches languishing in limbo, most without a single comment for or against.

This is just one of the more clear-cut ones that doesn’t even take a senior hacker to deal with and, frankly, whomever put in incremental backup should have seen the title and dealt with it immediately, even if I didn’t copy them, IMO.

David J.

Re: Docs for pg_basebackup needs v17 note for incremental backup

From
Daniel Gustafsson
Date:
> On 6 Feb 2025, at 15:43, David G. Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 6, 2025, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:

> > People get busy. For example, many prominent hackers spent most of the last week at various conferences. There are
also> > other things happening less publicly that are claiming people's time. 

> Those prominent hackers are getting the benefit of me being one of the more prolific community question takers which
letsthem spend more time hacking.   While I’m not entitled to anything I suggest you all consider that a failure to
acknowledgemy patch requests is frustrating enough for me that I’m about to just give up and walk away, leaving you all
todeal with those user questions more frequently.  The vast majority of emails get responses in some form with a day or
soand lots of patches have gone in outside the commitfest process within days of initial reporting while I play by the
rulesand am a large contributor to the community but presently have 7 patches languishing in limbo, most without a
singlecomment for or against. 

I don't think anyone on this list will contest that you do a lot of important
work, and any failure to reply should not be seen as a comment on that work.  I
for one appreciate and value your contributions both in terms of code as well
as user support.

Sometimes emails pass by without any replies, it's not the usual case but it
happens, and in this case the mail flew under the radar.

I'd be happy to help getting this in, do you have a suggested wording?

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Daniel Gustafsson