Thread: Re: remove twitter links

Re: remove twitter links

From
"Jonathan S. Katz"
Date:
On 11/21/24 10:00 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Hello
> 
> This (untested) patch removes links to Twitter at the bottom of pages,
> per discussion at https://postgr.es/m/18718-19d3521550f7b12e@postgresql.org
> 
> Also remove the accompanying Git link, which is unlikely to be useful.

I don't agree with the discussion on there. We still maintain a X 
profile (with news coming from it), and the git link lets people more 
easily find the codebase, which otherwise is challenging to find.

We can just update the logo to be more correct.

Jonathan



Re: remove twitter links

From
Adrian Klaver
Date:
On 11/21/24 08:11, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> On 11/21/24 10:00 AM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> This (untested) patch removes links to Twitter at the bottom of pages,
>> per discussion at 
>> https://postgr.es/m/18718-19d3521550f7b12e@postgresql.org
>>
>> Also remove the accompanying Git link, which is unlikely to be useful.
> 
> I don't agree with the discussion on there. We still maintain a X 
> profile (with news coming from it), and the git link lets people more 
> easily find the codebase, which otherwise is challenging to find.
> 
> We can just update the logo to be more correct.

+1

> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 

-- 
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com




Re: remove twitter links

From
Christophe Pettus
Date:

> On Nov 21, 2024, at 08:11, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:
> I don't agree with the discussion on there. We still maintain a X profile (with news coming from it), and the git
linklets people more easily find the codebase, which otherwise is challenging to find. 

I am +0 about the git link either way, but +1 to removing the Twitter/X link.  At this point, I don't think it makes
senseto point directly to a specific social media network.  Having a single link there for the community's social media
presenceswould be a more useful solution, rather than privileging Twitter/X. 





Re: remove twitter links

From
Jacob Champion
Date:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 8:34 AM Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com> wrote:
>
> At this point, I don't think it makes sense to point directly to a specific social media network.  Having a single
linkthere for the community's social media presences would be a more useful solution, rather than privileging
Twitter/X.

+1

As for the Git link, I'd be pretty surprised if it got any significant
traffic. Things like that belong up top, IMHO, unless we've somehow
trained people to habitually scroll to the bottom of web pages to find
Git logos.

--Jacob



Re: remove twitter links

From
Guillaume Lelarge
Date:
Le jeu. 21 nov. 2024 à 17:46, Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com> a écrit :
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 8:34 AM Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com> wrote:
>
> At this point, I don't think it makes sense to point directly to a specific social media network.  Having a single link there for the community's social media presences would be a more useful solution, rather than privileging Twitter/X.

+1


+1 too.

As for the Git link, I'd be pretty surprised if it got any significant
traffic. Things like that belong up top, IMHO, unless we've somehow
trained people to habitually scroll to the bottom of web pages to find
Git logos.

--Jacob




--
Guillaume.

Re: remove twitter links

From
"Jonathan S. Katz"
Date:
On 11/21/24 12:52 PM, Guillaume Lelarge wrote:
> Le jeu. 21 nov. 2024 à 17:46, Jacob Champion 
> <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com 
> <mailto:jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com>> a écrit :
> 
>     On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 8:34 AM Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com
>     <mailto:xof@thebuild.com>> wrote:
>      >
>      > At this point, I don't think it makes sense to point directly to
>     a specific social media network.  Having a single link there for the
>     community's social media presences would be a more useful solution,
>     rather than privileging Twitter/X.
> 
>     +1
> 
> 
> +1 too.

Many other community website have these kinds of links (the NPOs, 
conferences), and also at the bottom of their pages. I don't see why 
we'd remove that from .org. It gives another way for folks to connect 
with places we're sending information from the community (news, etc.). 
I'd also say there's a high probability we continue to add more links there.

I started on a patch to update the Twitter/X logo - we have to do some 
adaptations for light/dark on the logo, so I'll likely pick it up in the 
morning.

Jonathan



Re: remove twitter links

From
Christophe Pettus
Date:

> On Nov 21, 2024, at 20:59, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:
> Many other community website have these kinds of links (the NPOs, conferences), and also at the bottom of their
pages.I don't see why we'd remove that from .org.  

I don't think anyone is suggesting having no link to social media at the bottom of the page.  If we're going to link to
Twitter/X,though, we should link to Mastodon and BlueSky at a minimum.  I think it makes more sense to have a separate
pageon .org with the social media links, and link to that from the footer. 


Re: remove twitter links

From
Daniel Gustafsson
Date:
> On 22 Nov 2024, at 06:31, Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 21, 2024, at 20:59, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:
>> Many other community website have these kinds of links (the NPOs, conferences), and also at the bottom of their
pages.I don't see why we'd remove that from .org. 
>
> I don't think anyone is suggesting having no link to social media at the bottom of the page.  If we're going to link
toTwitter/X, though, we should link to Mastodon and BlueSky at a minimum. 

Totally agree.

>  I think it makes more sense to have a separate page on .org with the social media links, and link to that from the
footer.

We already have about/contact linked to in the footer which in turn links to
Twitter, reworking that page (perhaps also making the link more prominent) with
links to all the various social media presences might be more useful.

--
Daniel Gustafsson




Re: remove twitter links

From
"Jonathan S. Katz"
Date:
On 11/22/24 3:48 AM, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
>> On 22 Nov 2024, at 06:31, Christophe Pettus <xof@thebuild.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2024, at 20:59, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote:
>>> Many other community website have these kinds of links (the NPOs, conferences), and also at the bottom of their
pages.I don't see why we'd remove that from .org.
 
>>
>> I don't think anyone is suggesting having no link to social media at the bottom of the page.  If we're going to link
toTwitter/X, though, we should link to Mastodon and BlueSky at a minimum.
 
> 
> Totally agree.

The 2nd sentence, that was clipped from the above said "I'd also say 
there's a high probability we continue to add more links there." which 
aligns with what was stated above, i.e. adding more socials or other links.

>>   I think it makes more sense to have a separate page on .org with the social media links, and link to that from the
footer.
> 
> We already have about/contact linked to in the footer which in turn links to
> Twitter, reworking that page (perhaps also making the link more prominent) with
> links to all the various social media presences might be more useful.

I think that's fine, but we should also be careful that folks may not 
necessarily respond from socials on the main account.

Jonathan