Thread: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
PG Doc comments form
Date:
The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:

Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/sql-alterdomain.html
Description:

In the Synopsis section of
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-alterdomain.html
this is incorrect (incomplete):
"ALTER DOMAIN name ADD domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"
It should be 
"ALTER DOMAIN name ADD CONSTRAINT domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"

Re: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
Erik Wienhold
Date:
On 2024-07-29 13:02 +0200, PG Doc comments form wrote:
> In the Synopsis section of
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-alterdomain.html
> this is incorrect (incomplete):
> "ALTER DOMAIN name ADD domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"
> It should be 
> "ALTER DOMAIN name ADD CONSTRAINT domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"

No, the docs are correct.  domain_constraint refers to this syntax
defined by CREATE DOMAIN:

    "where constraint is:

    [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
    { NOT NULL | NULL | CHECK (expression) }"

Also, PG 17 renames this to "domain_constraint" with commit 9895b35cb8
to align ALTER DOMAIN with CREATE DOMAIN.

-- 
Erik



Re: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
"David G. Johnston"
Date:
On Monday, July 29, 2024, PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org> wrote:
The following documentation comment has been logged on the website:

Page: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/16/sql-alterdomain.html
Description:

In the Synopsis section of
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-alterdomain.html
this is incorrect (incomplete):
"ALTER DOMAIN name ADD domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"
It should be
"ALTER DOMAIN name ADD CONSTRAINT domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"

The definition of “domain_constraint” includes the optional “constraint constraint_name” clause.  Though reading the page and seeing the number of times we say “alter domain add constraint” I even more inclined to agree that bringing the word constraint there is desirable.  I am not a huge fan of the indirect syntax references anyway.  But I think your proposed fix is technically wrong since the word constraint is optional but your change makes it mandatory.

David J.

Re: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
Tom Lane
Date:
"David G. Johnston" <david.g.johnston@gmail.com> writes:
> On Monday, July 29, 2024, PG Doc comments form <noreply@postgresql.org>
> wrote:
>> In the Synopsis section of
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/sql-alterdomain.html
>> this is incorrect (incomplete):
>> "ALTER DOMAIN name ADD domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"
>> It should be
>> "ALTER DOMAIN name ADD CONSTRAINT domain_constraint [ NOT VALID ]"

> The definition of “domain_constraint” includes the optional “constraint
> constraint_name” clause.  Though reading the page and seeing the number of
> times we say “alter domain add constraint” I even more inclined to agree
> that bringing the word constraint there is desirable.  I am not a huge fan
> of the indirect syntax references anyway.

I think the page is technically correct, but I'm inclined to duplicate
this text from the CREATE DOMAIN page:

    where domain_constraint is:

    [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
    { NOT NULL | NULL | CHECK (expression) }

rather than making readers go look that up.  Is that the same thing
you're thinking, or did you have a different idea?

            regards, tom lane



Re: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
Tom Lane
Date:
I wrote:
> I think the page is technically correct, but I'm inclined to duplicate
> this text from the CREATE DOMAIN page:

>     where domain_constraint is:
>     [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
>     { NOT NULL | NULL | CHECK (expression) }

> rather than making readers go look that up.

Actually, there *is* a bug in the description, because experimentation
shows that CREATE DOMAIN accepts NULL in this syntax (as advertised)
but ALTER DOMAIN does not.  We could alternatively decide that that's
a code bug and make ALTER DOMAIN take it, but I don't think it's worth
any effort (and this behavior may actually have been intentional, too).
I think we should just add

    where domain_constraint is:

    [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
    { NOT NULL | CHECK (expression) }

to the ALTER DOMAIN page, and then remove the claim that it's
identical to CREATE DOMAIN.

            regards, tom lane



Re: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
"David G. Johnston"
Date:
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 8:17 AM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
I wrote:
> I think the page is technically correct, but I'm inclined to duplicate
> this text from the CREATE DOMAIN page:

>       where domain_constraint is:
>       [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
>       { NOT NULL | NULL | CHECK (expression) }

> rather than making readers go look that up.

Agreed


Actually, there *is* a bug in the description, because experimentation
shows that CREATE DOMAIN accepts NULL in this syntax (as advertised)
but ALTER DOMAIN does not.  We could alternatively decide that that's
a code bug and make ALTER DOMAIN take it, but I don't think it's worth
any effort (and this behavior may actually have been intentional, too).
I think we should just add

        where domain_constraint is:

        [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
        { NOT NULL | CHECK (expression) }

to the ALTER DOMAIN page, and then remove the claim that it's
identical to CREATE DOMAIN.


The inconsistency here and with create/alter table makes me want to make alter domain work as well.  But I agree it isn't really worth the effort when one is supposed to use "drop not null" to accomplish the effect of making a domain nullable.  But it does open the question of why we document "alter table alter column add null" - which does not get mentioned as being a non-standard option on the alter table page.

Both create table and create domain say:

NULL: This clause is only intended for compatibility with nonstandard SQL databases. Its use is discouraged in new applications.

But then create table goes on to say under Compatibility:

The NULL “constraint” (actually a non-constraint) is a PostgreSQL extension to the SQL standard ...

But create domain has no matching language; it claims full conformity.

That this "non-constraint" can have a name given seems unusual though done for ease of syntax I presume.

David J.

Re: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
Peter Eisentraut
Date:
On 29.07.24 17:17, Tom Lane wrote:
> I wrote:
>> I think the page is technically correct, but I'm inclined to duplicate
>> this text from the CREATE DOMAIN page:
> 
>>     where domain_constraint is:
>>     [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
>>     { NOT NULL | NULL | CHECK (expression) }
> 
>> rather than making readers go look that up.
> 
> Actually, there *is* a bug in the description, because experimentation
> shows that CREATE DOMAIN accepts NULL in this syntax (as advertised)
> but ALTER DOMAIN does not.  We could alternatively decide that that's
> a code bug and make ALTER DOMAIN take it, but I don't think it's worth
> any effort (and this behavior may actually have been intentional, too).
> I think we should just add
> 
>     where domain_constraint is:
> 
>     [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
>     { NOT NULL | CHECK (expression) }
> 
> to the ALTER DOMAIN page, and then remove the claim that it's
> identical to CREATE DOMAIN.

There was some discussion about these issues (ALTER DOMAIN vs CREATE 
DOMAIN reference page, as well as the NOT NULL constraint syntax) in and 
around 
<https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/a4a344ea-9e79-4c42-a9af-899f85bd753b@eisentraut.org>. 
  All that ended up dying because the NOT NULL constraints feature was 
reverted.  But there were some subtle details about why the syntax is 
the way it is and/or whether that's really intentional and how to 
document it.  Might be worth reviewing again.




Re: incorrect (incomplete) description for "alter domain"

From
Bruce Momjian
Date:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 05:11:54PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Actually, there *is* a bug in the description, because experimentation
> > shows that CREATE DOMAIN accepts NULL in this syntax (as advertised)
> > but ALTER DOMAIN does not.  We could alternatively decide that that's
> > a code bug and make ALTER DOMAIN take it, but I don't think it's worth
> > any effort (and this behavior may actually have been intentional, too).
> > I think we should just add
> > 
> >     where domain_constraint is:
> > 
> >     [ CONSTRAINT constraint_name ]
> >     { NOT NULL | CHECK (expression) }
> > 
> > to the ALTER DOMAIN page, and then remove the claim that it's
> > identical to CREATE DOMAIN.
> 
> I have written the attached patch to document this.  I assume this
> should be backpatched to PG 12.

Patch applied back to PG 12.

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